Coyote_Seven

Well, ToonMUSH (and later, ToonMUSH II) were quite popular in the early 90's?

I'll buy it.

I'll buy it seven times.

I see. You're saying that humans are the only creatures in the universe that have the special privilege of being considered persons, because those very same humans have never seen (or at least recognized) anything else with the same general level of intelligence and self-awareness.

You know, just because you haven't seen something doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. You're aware of that, right?

That's quite an incredible bias you have there. I'd like to know what makes you think that your own body isn't also a machine, just one of a different type. But more than that, this kind of response is incredibly evasive. We're not talking about shoes or cars here, are we? By that reckoning, we should give the same ethical considerations to cows and pigs that we give to humans, because they are also organic life forms that are warm blooded, have brains and can feel pain.

Or, is this a "humans only" argument that you're trying to make?

Considering what I've learned about the subject, this is so wrong as to make your responses entirely laughable. I'd love to know exactly why you think this and what exactly led you to believe it, but I suspect that you will never tell me and just continue with your tautological babble.

You've totally gained my respect, here!

Whats-her-name, on the other hand...

One could also say that the difference between yourself and a single celled organism is also not enough to justify attributing personhood upon you. I don't know about anyone else, but the reasons I use to recognize someone else as a person do not include "must be an organic life form and belong to my own species".

Your rigid and dogmatic approach to a concept that's barely coming over the horizon is no way to grow as a person. You'd do well to open your mind to greater possibilities, or else you may find yourself committing the same kinds of attrocities we as humans committed on ourselves not too long ago (and in a lot of ways, we still are).

This is just so you can sing "A whole new world" on it while making dramatic poses, isn't it?

I guess you'd have to be a fan of that show...

How about a Vroom Broom?

This was attempted in the beta for Issue 4. As there were no villain ATs yet at the time, it was quickly shown that scrappers were wiping the floor with just about every other AT. At least that's how I remember it.

LOL well, yes!

I say then that while we don't really need or want a sequel to City of Heroes, what we really want is for its aging engine to be replaced.

The old Cryptic Engine is dying. It's been on life support for a while now, and it can't remain so for much longer. We need a Paragon Engine!

I'd put it at version 1.75, myself.

Truer words have never been said. This has never been about what is right and what is wrong, it's always been about who has more money and more power. It is The Golden Rule* in action.

I'm afraid though that this thread is drifting toward a debate over whether or not morality is subjective. (Hint: yes it is)

*(Whoever has the gold, makes the rules)

I'd have thought you were more of a Dragon Pink kind of person.

I've kind of noticed that you tend to generalize everything to the point of meaninglessness though, spiked with snarky one-liners. I'm not at all sure how I'm supposed to take that seriously.

We're not talking about a bunch of trees or the weather, here. We're talking about people. Hello?

If someone is going to tell me that all women are crazy, I think I'm going to have to at least ask for what evidence they have for making such an assertion.

If that point was that you have no idea what you're talking about, then you're entirely welcome.