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On that same token though Pains could also take Sonic and just add on to their debuffs.

It would be the +rech from AB that would have to make up for the lack of -res due to increasing DPS. Either way, I'd like to see this happen.

I'm not talking about the title, I'm talking about people I personally view as Dbags who fit a criteria I already outlined.


Like AoE Buffs? Inherent Stamina? Who said "OMG I want this next week and I have no reasonable expectations!". No that's just people on their high horse who are imagining that.

I'm not in any SGs that either care about prestige or have requirements to earn it.

The fact that half the people in the thread have said "I'd like it or I wouldn't care if it's there" has shown that yes, prestige does matter. It's only as arbitrary as you make it. I even stated that it doesn't reflect an SG being the best. It can be a measurement of loyalty or dedication however.

The only SG in the game who raids Hami is Twilight Avengers and I doubt they have broken the top 10 as an SG, they don't care, they are out there raiding and pwning things as an SG, setting the bar.

Repeat Offenders it the largest coalition across servers in the game and "breaks the game" using tactics most don't think about, use or embrace. Do they care about Prestige? No.

But, as you can see, through the original posting, and sitting around in atlas for 2 minutes and seeing SG recruitment announcements citing their "Top 5" status, that it does indeed matter to some. Whether it's a personal goal, an SG goal or a symbol for how long an SG has been around for, it matters to some. No matter how they got there or how enduring they are. Sure there are SGs who can with influence break the top 5 in one day, but that again is a goal that someone is trying to achieve for entirely different reasons.

I get that it doesn't automatically reflect awesomeness, but that doesn't mean it should be discredited.

I'd say it's second right behind Plant/Psi. Drain Psyche is just amazing.

<3 you.

I'm referring to all of the people on this forum who have this habit of thinking their opinions constitute fact or better yet, some sort of in place game mechanic that only exists in their heads. It's not a secret society, it's a large group of people on this forum who drive others off the boards by being elitists whose opinions are the only way without being receptive to change, progression or any idea that isn't their idea.

When I say the "player base" I'm referring to the general populace who the forum cartel has proven not to side with when it comes to changes within the game. Think AoE buffs for a recent example. Instead of saying "It's a crap idea", the smart and considerate thing would be to think of a way that the idea COULD work. Instead of your one dimensional outlook on the idea.



I never said Prestige automatically showed how dedicated someone was to an SG. I said it CAN. It depends on how the player and the SG leader treats it. As you've ignored in this thread, there are multiple people who suggest that. Your one bad experience does not represent every instance of everything going on in this game with every single person. People play the game different then you do, deal with it.

Your pretentiousness is really working in your favor, keep it up.

Agreements/Disagreements here in this forum do NOT represent the majority of players in CoX. This can be shown simply by the fact that most City of Heroes players don't post on or read these forums. 99% of the threads here end up in nothing land. A lot of people don't post because they don't want to be jumped on by the forum cartel. Constructive criticism is different then what you people do. Take a look at the threads with thousands and thousands of views/posts. Those much more likely reflect what the actual majority of people in this game feel, because it meant so much to them that they logged onto the forums and made their opinion known. Everyone already knows how the forum cartel feels about issues, why post on it?

Taking personal experience and other players opinions about how THEY play the game are baseless? It's baseless to assume that the way everyone perceives the game is the same. Or that some things don't mean different things to others. If it doesn't hurt you, who cares? Get off your high horse, really.

I'd agree with this post most.

If you ever plan to solo, Pain is going to be the preferred set. I like having the stacking debuffs as +recov, +regen and all that have much closer caps. You can pretty much debuff stuff into oblivion and at the high end where people are IOd to the max, I think debuffs become more of what needs to be filled in.

I would like to see an All Emp team vs an All Pain team though, see who can do certain TFs quicker and such, would be interesting to see who comes out on top.

Anyone who plays an Empathy by doing nothing but healing and buffing is playing that powerset completely wrong IMO and I don't want to play with them. The "Pure" empathy concept is ridiculous and should only ever be applied in PvP, and that's old school PvP teaming. Nowadays you could probably squeeze attacks into your toon just for zone.

Any empathy who doesn't take their attacks is not only hurting themselves but the team as well.

I lol'd, but yea, it goes like that lol It's especially useful if a toon has a boom, uses it, then dies, then fallout, then mutation or RoTP if they have it. Awesomesauce.

RoTP makes it even more boomtastic.

This would be a nice consolation price if they didn't open up the Villain Patron Pools with a Hero side arc. They could just clone them but have BaBs, Sister psyche etc give them out.

It's annoying having to switch over just for Shadow Meld and Scorpion Shield.

A team of all Emps has capped regen, recovery, dmg, tohit, recharge, defense (soft cap min), mezz protection, perception. What's not to love about stacked empathies?

Have you ever seen what a team of all Rads can do on a map by continuously using Veng bait and fallout? If you dismiss deaths as being part of the equation that equals success and replace it with time alone then you can begin to understand why those two powers can be substantially useful. It's almost like cheating when you use the powers the game has given you to full effect.

A team consistently using Fallout on every mob intentionally is something smart to do, not something to be ashamed of. If you are trying not to die, then yes I can see why you'd be upset with yourself, but honestly you should shrug off that bad ideology and replace it with what actually works based on game mechanics. You are actually helping the team complete the objective faster and have become a huge force multiplier by allowing them to use Vengeance on you. Intentionally dying is fun.

Mitch Hedberg reference, you rock.

Syntax is correct in terms of S/L defense and going after +recharge after that.

An SS/Fire brute is the farming king but, if you DO want to farm with your Invul toon, you can simply search S/L farm and more than enough options will pop up on the AE search function for you to choose from.

If they are already in the middle of a trial it is completely bogus to kick the league and suggest that "nope sorry, we don't believe you can finish this so we won't give you the chance."