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Quote:That's a little like saying you don't see anything great and impressive about a pizza other than the crust and the cheese. Not only can you not see anything that might be under the cheese, those are likely to be the two most important parts.The topic wasn't started on that premise. But on the presentation alone and what great things will bring. I dont see anything great and impressive on what has been announced to be in the expansionset other than Praetoria and the morality system.
It took us 436 posts and that maddening "open mic at the coffee shop" what-is-art-man beatnik rap just to get to this? I feel like I should be waving away clove cigarette smoke and wishing it was legal to beat art students about the head and shoulders with folding chairs. -
... which is one of the greatest inventions in history...
Quote:and a comercial verion of the astronaut pen
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Quote:There are people who make a living specifically by pontificating on the subject of game design?I'm not presenting my own opinion. I'm presenting the opinion of people who have spent their lives researching these things and have written books on the topic.
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It would've been like Jedi Knights in Star Wars Galaxies. "Hey, wait, aren't we set between A New Hope and The Empire Strikes Back? Does the Empire not know that there are 2500 Jedi having a poker tournament in the courtyard in front of the Mos Eisley Spaceport on Tatooine?"
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Quote:Wait, weren't you the one that was all in a "well, maybe the whole game should just be a closet with a mission terminal, a door, and a trainer, then, would you like that?" huff when people were asking for reduced travel times a while ago?And like I said: five years ago, that WAS the state of the art. That was the dominant paradigm in MMO world design.
These days, a lot of players don't have the patience for that kind of transparent "filler." Sure, the hunting and crafting and whatnot are still grindy as heck, but at least the player is engaged, not watching their avatar's rear end for ten boring minutes as they walk/ride/fly to the next waypoint/town/jumpgate. -
Quote:I can't quite tell from your phrasing - is this a veteran-player yawn ("Getting sent around the city was interesting... the first time") or a dated-graphics dig ("This game would look superb... on a Sega Saturn")?Also, to give you a chance to see more of the city, which was kind of impressive 5 years ago
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Quote:Huh. I like that, actually. It makes those staffers at the enhancement stores make a bit more sense. I mean, that guy at the Parts counter at Cooke's Electronics in Blyde Square must have helped millions of Tech heroes slot up their powers by now, you'd think he'd at least be able to offer some useful suggestions, not just stand there and (let's say) let a Science hero mistakenly buy a whole basketful of Illumination Grenades. This suggestion would make them function a bit like those "tech expert" sales guys at electronics stores, who (ideally - please reserve real-world-example-based scoffing) can help you figure out which TV you need, not just sell you a random one.I beleive Captain Photon is correct, what i would very much like to see for enhancements is an EASY button
go to the store and click "upgrade" and all the enhancements you currently have get upgraded if possible, so if you were level 43,and upgraded you would be upgraded to the 45 class enhancements, empty slots would remain as such, and i would think it would be made to only effect TO's DO's and SO's.
It would need a confirmation dialogue, of course, in which the salesman showed you the list of things he recommended and you could change, accept, or deny his suggested list. -
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Quote:Damn straight! They could have used that dev time to code in Madman Omar's House of Mimics!And if they asked for a fraction of the game's original cost to give you an upgraded version of that very game with a bunch of new features, and most importantly, a 2D graphics upgrade (using pictures instead of ASCII characters), you would believe they're ripping you off and "half assing" an upgrade as someone mentioned?
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I have been chided for using the word "postmodern" as a sort of shorthand for "annoying, pretentious, overthinking, way-too-cool-for-school and incapable of accepting as valid any simple and optimistic premise without claiming to have found a grimy, disreputable social-comment subtext which those of us who prefer to see it as simple and optimistic must simply be too stupid to have detected." They tell me that's not really what that means.
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What popular fiction have you read in which the villain's doomsday device is configured to be set off by typing a period? That sounds wacky enough to be a lot of fun.
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Quote:That's exactly why you can't do that - because the designers don't want you casually recouping that value.I have a suggestion . . . how about when a player buys a "new" enhancement and puts it in the place of an "old" enhancement, the player is given a choice to delete the "old" enhancement or to move the "old" enhancement to the enhancement tray. This, at the very least, allows the player to redeem some value from the "old" enhancement . . .
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Quote:I think you've inadvertently filed the Cathedral of Pain in column A when it should be in column B. It's not as if it never appeared.After all, the devs would never officially announce something as done that didn't make it in game (*cough*Vault*cough* *cough*CoP*cough*), or announce something that turns out to be underwhelming in implementation (*cough*PvP*cough* *cough*bases*cough*).
(Also, I don't recall the Vault ever being announced as done; it was announced as being worked on a couple of times, before it ultimately didn't work out, but that's not quite the same thing, is it? If they'd announced "Okay, it's ready!" and then never rolled it out, that'd make it the Moller Skycar of MMO features.)
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Quote:... what the crap.
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An inherent that provides 24/7 cost-free mez and KB protection? Er. Would you trade Critical Hit for that? And what would the other flavors of Scrapper (most of whose sets provide toggles to do that) do?
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Quote:Actually, they did, or at least Manticore did. I still cherish the memory of people pointing that uncomfortable conjunction out to him after the comic issue came out. His response was something along the lines of (paraphrased from memory), "Oh, jeez, you're right, she is. Aaaaaacccckkkkk. I just creeped myself out." I don't think he was indulging in sarcasm, either. It just clean slipped his mind.I don't think they ever forgot the relationship between the two.
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Well, I hope it is, otherwise you guys are all delusional.
That said, I'd like it to get its own board area too, not just because it's kinda cluttering up my City Life page, but also because I think it'd be easier for those who choose to partake.