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Actually, my plan for my live Titan Weapon character is a TW/Elec Brute!
After playing WP at higher levels, it wasn't horrible, but I really wanted a damage aura and a more active way to manage my endurance.

Electric Armor also offers other goodies, like a constant recharge bonus, capped Energy resist, immunity to energy drain, etc.

Obviously it will take more investment to become Godly in terms of defense, etc... but in normal play it should be just fine and really complement Titan Weapons well!
I'm looking forward to it.

Not as funny as how many people are blowing the endurance issues WAY out of proportion.
Unfortunately, the devs may not see the humor and instead severely lower the capability of the set because some people are making such a big fuss about it without doing proper testing.

Sorry, my bad. Thanks for nitpicking.

It's statements like this that get me upset.
Have you even tested Titan Weapons at all?
If so... have you bothered to test it through normal play, maybe during the first 20 or so levels of play? Or did you just get an automatic level bump from 1 to 50 then go out and spam your AoE attacks without any decent enhancements?

I have spent hours testing the lower levels without a level bump, as have others, and we can attest that the set is not horrible on endurance at all. It's far better, in fact, than many sets that are currently on live.... ESPECIALLY Street Justice, which was just released.

I played WP, which didn't get QR until level 18, and never even slotted Stamina.
The set hits slow, and hard. I had more than enough time to regen my endurance, and even forgot to toggle off sprint on many occasions.

At higher levels.... yes, you have 4 AoEs. YES, THEY COST A LOT OF ENDURANCE.
All AoEs do. ANY set with that many AoEs should have endurance issues if they blow their load all at once.
So you DEAL WITH IT. The potential of having that many AoEs is glorious, and WELL WORTH THE ENDURANCE COST... which AGAIN, is NORMAL for those AoE attacks.
*gasp*
Well gee.... slot for end reduction! Get Conserve Power and use it... or the multitude of other endurance management tools. In the end game, go with Cardiac or Ageless.

I agree that Physical Perfection won't do much if that is the ONLY way you are trying to manage your endurance when spamming those AoEs. So what? It's only one tool of many.

The glorious AoE and ST damage of the set is worth it, IMHO.

I kinda of agree that it seems a little silly at this point.

What's more immersion breaking.... having a huge weapon suddenly appear in your hand and whacking a goon over the head with it?
Or having a huge weapon suddenly appear on your back where it hovers there a few inches off your back until you reach back and grab it.

*shrug* IMHO they are about the same. So why have it at all and punish me for using click heavy secondaries and power pools?


Still, loving the set so far and testing the crap out of it on test. I'm making a lot of notes and plan to post them WHEN I HAVE PROPERLY TESTED THE SET, instead of instantly making snap judgements and jumping down the developers throats.

So far it's very unique and it's nice to see a new AoE focused melee set.
Also, I commend the devs for putting it on the beta server when it's clearly still a work in progress and allowing us to help test it.

Whaaa! Just got home from work, and saw this!

Unfortunately I just resubbed before Freedom... I never installed the VIP Beta client, but I have Test all updated. Let's hope I can download the gigs of data on my crappy country internet connection before they stop giving access...


Btw.... ANYONE HAVE PICTURES WE CAN DROOL AT?!!

Sneaky sneaky...

Oh, so you were just re-posting a description of the Titan Weapon models from someone who DID get access to them in the beta?

So.... that still doesn't explain how YOU got access to Titan Weapons!

The teasing is just way to much.... first the Facebook comments about it being on test, then the utter silence since then, and now this.... I'm GOING CRAZY!!

HOW? How do you know this?! Where have you seen it?!?!?!
Is it up on the VIP Beta?? Can you post screenies??

(Yes, I am that desperate for Titan Weapons!)

Totally, which is why I think a Beam/Traps corrupter has so much potential.
Traps was already an AV/GM Killer, allowing you to completely halt their regeneration and debuff their resistance. Add Beam Rifle to the mix and you should be able to wittle them down pretty fast.

And it's not like the AoE is horrible. As was mentioned, in a team environment (or solo +8 when you finally soft cap yourself) Disintegrate can be brutal. Cutting Beam is a decent cone, especially when something is Disintegrating... and it still has Piercing Beam which can hit at least a couple in a line, not to mention the crashless nuke.

I just wish the nuke was on a similar timer to Rain of Arrows or Full Auto.
The 2 min recharge on DP's nuke already seemed like an unnecessary nerf.... now we are up to /3/ minutes for a crashless nuke? Why?

Well, since the last patch I'm unable to log in to CoH to check.
However, if the new MIDs is correct.... it does the SAME damage as Blaze plus MORE if Disintegrate is active on the target.

Is it just me, or are a fair number of people just out to hate on Beam Rifle?

Yeah, that would be true.... if the red names didn't ever post here. But they do.

Thanks for your attempt at help anyway though

No offense, but do you play ranged dmg sets very often?
This power is just like Blaze, Bitter Ice Blast, and Executioner's Shot.
It's the Superior Dmg, short range blast.
In fact, Lancer Shot is among the best of them... does as much damage as Blaze, is one of the fastest animating attacks in the Beam Rifle set, AND does a Mag 3 long lasting stun!
Oh, and has around 50% chance to spread disintegrate!
In my mind this makes it one of the best attacks in the set. Why would you respec out of it?

On a similar note... I think that with Beam Rifle, a lot of people just need to 'L2P'.
Myself included!

For example... Penetrating Ray.
As was mentioned in this exact thread, it's a 100% chance for Disintegration Spread.
I took it for this very reason after reading this thread, even though I was originally going to avoid it like the plague (as I do all snipes).
With some experimentation however, I've found this particular Snipe is easily the best Snipe in the game. By that, I mean it's actually worth picking up!
However, it's very sneaky. You can't use it like a normal snipe!

What I do is open with Disintegrate on a Lieut/Boss in the middle or back of the spawn. If I'm on a team, I follow the same procedure as picking an anchor. Try to pick something that they won't WTFPWN right away.

Then, while Disintegrate is animating I queue Penetrating Ray. In the time it takes for the mob to react, I usually get off the snipe without any interruptions. It happened once or twice, especially solo, but nothing that a single Interrupt Redux enhancer couldn't fix.
Now, if that baddie was anywhere near his friends, I see that delicious DISINTEGRATE SPREAD pop up over anything close by.
Then it's time for Cutting Beam! Extra damage on all the friends, and then I carry on with my blasting ways (or corrupting, in my case).

It seems to be very effective, especially in a team when the mobs are distracted. It also helps to pick a target a bit further back, because they often start to run toward you after you get Disintegrate off. With a little luck and a queued Penetrating Ray you hit them just as they run into the middle of their friends.

Give it a try. They've definitely designed Beam Rifle to play a little differently than other blasting sets.

You aren't even at 50 yet, and you are already at 45% to ALL positions without PBU/PB?

How did you manage that, if you don't mind my asking?


On another note... I'm liking my Time/Sonic Defender. He's really helpful against hard targets because of all his -res stacking. I can get about -116% res stacked, sometimes a little more sometimes a little less, which helps the team just MELT AVs and the like.

Only issues are... VERY end heavy. Soloing is a nightmare, even though I can easily keep up damage and defense-wise. Even slotting End reducers doesn't seem to help.
Also, the lack of AoE. In order to maximize my Time abilities I need to dive right into the middle of mobs. Howl is great, and when stacked with Slowed Response gives -50% res to up to 10 targets... but Howl is a cone and doesn't work well in melee. So I end up having to jump in and out which tends to get annoying.

I'm starting to think something with a lot of targeted AoEs and PBAoEs might flow much better. However, I don't really care much about the damage since, on a team, there is usually enough of that already.
Originally I wanted to try DP for concept.... but it was just too late blooming and the secondary effects are not very good (even the -dmg with toxic rounds is fairly anemic on defenders and short-lasting).

My other idea was Electric Blast. Is sapping a viable strategy? Does it work against bigger targets, like AVs? I was just thinking of spamming Short Circuit and Ball Lightning when I wasn't buffing/de-buffing with time.

Thoughts? Experiences?

P.S.- No fix for Defender Chrono Shift recharge till Issue 21.5? NOOOOOOOOO!!!

Sorry. That's not true.
If it were, then why can we make Katana/Stone characters? Or MA/Stone? They do a lot more jumping and flipping around.

From what I understand... they had a problem with the way the claws were attached to the Granite Form character rig. Something about the claws appearing on the feet or below the character.
Granite form is special, in that your character model is actually being completely replaced by the DE rock model and so it causes some issues. They couldn't fix it (or probably could, but it would take too much effort) hence Claws was scrapped for Stone.

Really? REALLY?? Wow....

Thanks for the heads up!
I've been working on a Time/Sonic Defender since I21 launched and was expecting a quick patch anyday. This really kills him for me.

I could still keep playing him... but I'll hold off until this gets fixed.
Now which to focus on... my Elec/Time Controller or my Ninja/Time Mastermind... hmmm

Leveling a shiny new Time Defender, I would have to agree.

However, there is one key difference between them.
Willpower is very passive. Set your toggles and forget them... the set does all the work without much input from you.
Time Manipulation is VERY active and clicky. It gives you a lot to do. Player ability can become more of a factor as well, when prioritizing what abilities to use and when.

Overall I'm loving Time. I've never liked Defenders and couldn't get one above level 20ish, but so far I'm level 28 with my Time/Sonic and loving every minute.
Still, I don't think it's over-powered at all. I've done crazier things with a lot of other characters and at earlier levels. Time just seems to be a really balanced, fun, and effective set.

*sigh*

So it's wrong to ask for help making sure things are efficient for my purposes if I don't want another cookie-cutter concept-be-damned min max build? Ok then.



I believe I had addressed that in my initial post.



And thank you for your critique! (just as I thanked you already before)
Sorry you didn't understand the purpose of my original request though. *shrug*


You can STFrellUp. I was more than courteous and appreciative to Lyger for his advice.
There was clearly some miscommunication regarding the intent of my post, as outlined above... but at least he tried to help me the best he knew how. That, I have patience and understanding for.

Your trolling I do not. GTFO.

Lyger. If it seemed like I was implying that you didn't give me an honest critique, I apologize as that wasn't my intent.


Thanks Finduilas! I took a glance through it already, and saw some good stuff in there. I'll have an in depth look later tonight. I appreciate the help!