Agent White

Well, that's actually kind of the point. This is supposed to be something that sends ripples through the universe, and sort of the problem with killing off one of the 'lesser' members of the Phalanx, because it won't have that much impact.

Then again, we're supposed to feel something for Miss Liberty getting murdered and.. well we really don't since she had no development and is basically a set piece.

So, who knows. But I don't think we can really rule out anyone for being 'too important', that could be the very reason they do get killed.

Having a trainer in the intro and actually teaching you about trainers are two different things. Talking to the trainer shows you that that person is a trainer, it does not tell you *about* trainers. Just showing someone something is not the same as actually explaining it to them. The intro trainer shows you the trainer/level up interface, but it doesn't actually explain things like "There's a trainer in most zones"

And see if someone *doesn't* know what a trainer is and they make it to level 5 that's an even bigger crime because that's 3 levels (since you go from 1 -> 2 in the intro) that they haven't picked slots or powers. That's far far worse to me.

In fact that's even contradictory. You cannot say it's adequate to include both a trainer in the introduction and still have to be introduced to trainers in the level 5 arc. Players *should* know what trainers are by level 5 because they met one at level One, so its a redundancy.

A bit of a shame, but not too unexpected. Really though, it's a great idea if you tweak around when preemies get reward merits. A good hybrid model is one that offers in-game ways of earning things they can pay cash for, because it comes down to which becomes more important to the player, cash or convenience. Several will opt for convenience, but having the option in game does not feel like you're forcing anyone.

No, we'll have random teenagers and monsters running around in and out of mission doors. It'll be like halloween only there's no treats and the monsters turn out to be guys in rubber masks

No, you're not taught about trainers at level one. All you're told is 'talk to X to get a new power'. That's it. This doesn't teach you about trainers. As soon as you appear in Atlas Park/Mercy island your first contact should be the trainer, then they can direct you to the mission contacts.



As an MMORPG there is *always* going to be some amount of reading. It's not an action game. Maybe the original tutorials were too long and wordy, but this new mega-tutorial takes far too long to introduce simple concepts and systems that the players will already be using, or if they aren't it's been too long since they *should* be using them. Adjusting the game's difficulty should not be introduced around level 10.

And the only thing you *need* to know out of your list is enhancements and Inspirations, which are very easily explained without 'omgtext'. Inventions don't come along til Level 10 and Mission architect is hardly a required element of the game, both of those items are okay to weave in later.

Basically, for whatever you want to say is wrong with the original tutorials, the new ones have the opposite problems. Given a choice between the older tutorials and the new tutorials, I feel new players have more to gain and learn from the older ones.

It does it poorly though. As stated, you shouldn't be taught about trainers at level *Five*. Or the Fateweaves/Analysts so late.

The theory is sound but the execution is dead stupid, new players need several things it's teaching MUCH sooner.

Compare to the Praetorian intro. Teaches you almost everything you need to know in a short 5-10 minute mission then dumps you right into an area that fills you in on a large chunk of the rest. There is no reason to stretch it out into a 5 to 15 3 arc mega-tutorial.

Ok, it still sounds like villainside content. "Hey I found all the bad guys super secret schematics. Why don't *I* just use it?" The heroic thing would be to either A) destroy it or B) Lock it up to prevent misuse.

and FYI: It's 'cited'.


I really don't buy the 'don't have time to train', that's absurd. They're game characters. It's not about being realistic, because you can't be. The signature heroes appear in their own Task Force sites, Fort Trident, the Signature Story Arcs and appear in Missions, just like the Signature villains appear in Missions, The Crucible and their normal appearance spots. The villains 'train' player characters while still running around doing schemy villainous things. There's nothing preventing the designers from including the Signature Heroes elsewhere to offer the Patron Arcs. The only signature hero they couldn't use is the one they're going to kill.

They're still fine combing out all the other references in content that's still in. The Jenny Firkins arc in Founder's Falls that sends you to all the signature heroes still tells you to hit up Back Alley Brawler in Galaxy even though the mission sends you to Blue Steel in King's Row (Then sends you to Synapse in Skyway, who they say is taking care of King's Row XD)

Yeah I just read the lifetime auction pass under rewards, so that seems completely silly.

Hopefully it means they're going to rework when reward merits can be earned.

Uh, that sounds more like Villainside content.

"What? An offer of power in exchange for letting a villain go? SURE. I love me some blastiness, pow pow, oh he robbed a bank again? Well now I have more pow pow to stop him!"



Simple solution that plays off of current story: Whoever is killed in the Signature Story Arc, the other Phalanx members believe this could have been prevented if they had spent more time sharing their knowledge with Supers in training, so several volunteer to offer training. Four step forward and offer arcs as a test, those that pass the test get access to the Hero pools.

Obviously who offers what is dependent on who is still alive post Who Will Die, but again, easy to theme things per hero.

Pretty sure they're thinking of characters like Psylocke when talking about psychic melee.

Yeah there's that, though you still have to do radio missions to get into the contact chain.

It's still a bit of a bottleneck.

Yeah. Same here.

The problem, I think, is that people have trained themselves and others to form teams before hitting the queue, and to get full teams of 8 to 'max out rewards'.

Honestly I'd just be happy if they included a 3rd option for the low levels. Really I'd be fine with something that just puts me to 5 and sends me to the hollows instead of hasheby/twinshot or Sewers. It actually does kind of make me miss the old city hall contacts since... they pretty much did exactly that >>