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firstly if my post gave you the idea (or infact i said it) that yours hasent got validity i am sorry i was just saying it from the way i see it. and my stalker is solo/duo only i rarley team with other stalkers and if i do its usually not on me stalker

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yes ... i never disputed this ..dont get this


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never failed this mission.... dont see how you can unless your trying to stop an EB bosses are dead after 4 hits



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yea i said i would have problems with EBs would have to be a case of caltrops and /mako tornado thingy (hmmm) but as you have said only my build could do this and i sence a note of anamosity towards em/nin let me put your mind at ease i 90% solo and 0% PvP i did not build this char to be uber i built it because it sounded the best when i started to make it (a week after CoV was released)

i think the real point i am making is that your PoV is abit biased toawards your expeirences (well obviously) there are many other ways stalkers (purhaps your right and its only em/nin) can be played

generally a good guide but a few points i disagree with

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AS is an awesome attack, I still love seeing "Assassin Strike" appear. However it's slow, interruptible and end heavy. Use something else in the midst of a fight, unless you only have one mob left. Running and hiding to use AS again is fine when you are solo, but in teams, it just isn't as efficient

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it really aint that end heavey especially with a set in (which is the best way to slot it)

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Know your enemy. What are their powers? What havoc can they cause? Do people hate, loathe and fear them? Knowing your enemy means you know whom to target first. We are snipers. The tactical kill done quickly, can change how a battle goes. Learn what mobs people want taken out first. Mostly these are Lts and Minions. Bosses such as Wardens everyone hates, but unless you have 2-3 stalkers on your team, you can't one hit them. Take them out only if there is nothing else of concern.

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i dunno many occasions when its better to take out minionsbefore bosses (only ones that comes to mind is sappers or when fighting those boss ilusionists that intange every 10 secs)
bosses have much higher acc therfore knock you out of as/hide alot more

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Use placate to get back into hide quickly in the midst of a fight, but don't expect to get another AS from it, use your most powerful quick attack, often best if its a single target one. This can massively increase your damage output. Also, stick to one target. One dead target is better than 3 targets with any amount of health.

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this i really dont think is right during a big fightt (6 + mobs) i definetly get 2 AS if not 3 placating not only hides you but once your back in hide you get the awesome def of your hide power which makes it really hard for you to be hit and with /ninjitsu you got a PBAoE placate which yea dont hide you but it does stop them atacking you
which is when you need to be careful about your fiend's aggro :P

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If you have a "Stop X from escaping" mish, bring back up, lots of it. These are a pain to fail. We do not have the sustained damage output and ability to stop a mob that other Archetypes have. Beware of these types of mish, they are perhaps the most frustrating for a stalker.


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never failed this mission.... dont see how you can unless your trying to stop an EB bosses are dead after 4 hits

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Learn how a stalker interacts with other Archetypes. Another Stalker is a great companion. Double AS is a truly awesome thing to behold. Masterminds provide great cover. Dominators provide holds and control. Brutes and corrupters are rarely good duo partners. A Brute is a sledgehammer, a Stalker is a scalpel. It can work, but be prepared for the fast pace. Duos with a Corrupter often end with a dead Corrupter. If you want a Corrupter, try getting a larger team together, so they have someone to look after them.


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my stalker (level 46) is best in a duo with brutes the brute takes alpha 10 seconds later the mob is dead if its a big mob then the brute now has full fury and can hit for twice as much as me for the last few enemies (dont try that with ralaruu...)

Its easily doable but it would be easier going hasten/ss (or IR.hasten) than hover and fly its not the amount of end recovered by trans its the amount of end used between attacks thats why some trollers have problems (fire, grav, mind are the worst) i never took stamina with my ill/kin troller till respec at level 50 and planning on doing the same with my AS/kin cor.

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I have 1 acc, 3 recharge, 2 hold on mine and he's perma with hasten running. I solo'd about 97.5% of the time with my mastermind and its what worked for me. The hold probably gives me more as a Necro than you'd get from it and I'd probably put 2 -tohit instead

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this is pretty much how you should slot it even without hasten he is only not around for 5 seconds

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You put them side by side, then there's enough room for one or two doors to the room too.

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Problem is that it doesn't allow. I have even empty teleport room and I can't place it there. It's all red, in hole room.

Is there, some limit what one player can put, like just one personal item?

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no limit but the 2x2 room is a very tough squeeze when i had that room i could only fit them in 1 way and no others (even tho the room is symetical?)

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the hard part is trying to fit the biggest tp room into smallest base size (solo sg but i got alot!! of pres:P) rather not upgrade and pay rent :P

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Still not sure why Heroes would have cells, as all criminals are tp'ed straight to prison after we take them down

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Same reason Reichsman is under the FP headquarters. Some threats are too dangerous.

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But would it be our responsibility to hold them? If anyone was too dangerous for the Zig, then wouldn't we hand them over to Freedom Phalanx?

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too dangerous for the zig O.o pulease i escaped from that place at level 1! its acutally harder to break out of PPD jail than it is to escape from the zig

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Life's not fair.. just get on with it

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This comment scares me to no end
I aint gunna sit here and debate the ethics of cheating its just my PoV

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Some of us have full HOs on Live, anyway.

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yes this would be fair seems you earn/traded for them copying a char over 15 times to get them is not fair....

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Because everyone will cheat and have full HOs

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::rolls eyes:: I think you might be playing the wrong game, or in other words, who gives a toss? That's your reason for wanting to exclude all other servers?

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playing the wrong game because i like a fair fight? -what ever *skuttles along to fully slot HOs*
i wouldent like the be a level 44 in this event 100% unfair

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aye I do think it would be better to have on test.

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Dude dont even go there! Union all the way

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Why not? More people can take part this way, and everyone can get onto test.

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Because everyone will cheat and have full HOs which is stupid some ppl (not me) wont have HOs so its not fair we slaughter them all night

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aye I do think it would be better to have on test.

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Dude dont even go there! Union all the way

an 8 dom lrsf team pwns all (couple with medicen pool) level 50 mez protection is nothing to all those doms and damage altho poor aint that bad especcially with all the pets running amoke and confusing the heroes really helps

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My blaster would be one-shotted trying to take down a heavy solo

On the other hand I could take it down easily if I had good empath with me. My own tank wouldnt have a hope in hell taking down a heavy because of his laughable damage output.

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i belive my tank could take a heavy without Unstop but would take a long looooooooong time

/me wonders what it would be like if everyone who dinged 50 made a post like this
/me thinks it would be a very crouded place on the boards

gratz anyway

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But they look different? That's the main thing with bases - the look

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Not sure on this one but i would imagine the arcane would just be some sorta pillar with a crystal ontop which does the firing for flames if its a machine gun type thing i dunno perhaps it gets fired out of some statues eys

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Chilling embrace does not allow you to see a stalker, it's one of the armours which has +percep
Stealthed stalkers with grant invis won't be seen from a distance no matter how many yellows/+percep powrs u use. You can only see them in melee distance when at perception cap.
Group invis does NOT stack with other powers from the concealment pool. Only stalkers can have stacked invis powers.
Pets perception is worse than the player, at least that is for sure on a troller, can't speak about MMs.
I don't really agree with the tactic of 'survive the AS strike and stack 4 holds before he escapes', and it's not something that 'most ATs' can do anyway. In fact, no AT can do that on his own vs. a proper stalker in the zones.

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I said group invis stacks with super invis and if you are grant invised it does stack with that also

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Is it just me or is Sirens all very one sided for Stalkers now. It seems to me he who moans loudest gets everyone else nerf'd. Even with Perception,Assault & Tactics to see a Stalker with Hide & Stealth on is very hard to do and if he has Grant invis on top of the other two as well, You may as well give up. You have more chance of meeting the Pope than you have of seeing the Stalker.

So you go for a build that you feel will give you added protection from them:

Lighting Field - While active, you emit a storm of electricity that constantly damages all nearby foes.

Blazing Aura - While active, you are surrounded by flames that continuously burn all foes that attempt to enter melee range...

Repulsion Field - This toggle power creates a field that violently repels nearby foes...

Death Shroud - You become a focus point for the Netherworld allowing negative energy to seep from your body that will continuously damage all foes in melee range....

Icicles & Quills - Basically again while active they are meant to damage anyone continuously in melee range..

Assault - While active you are resistant to taunt & placate ( No it dont )

Tactics - While active protects from confuse and fear effects ( No it dont )


None of the above work against stalker's not even if you have Assault & Tactics on. So what is the point of the powers, They should add that they don't work in PvP against stalkers it would save a lot of disapointment for people.

Also with say Superior Invins on no other concealment power works with it. Yet the good old Stalkers get Hide then they put Stealth on and if they have a team mate with Grant invis their laughing all the way to the bank. No wonder everyone in Sirens is now saying that the Stalkers Pawn and now seeing less and les people in there.

Perhaps its just me, perhaps im just a moaning old man that cant keep up with you youngsters. Perhaps ive just been playing this game to long and its time for a change

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I dont know if it was your intention but you seem to miss any of (imo) the decent stalker seeing moves

While AoE is useless against most stalkers (perhaps decent against regen stalkers they have the least defence)
you could use Arctic air that is -stealth not a damage aura with tactics you can see invis (close range) and stealthed stalkers pop a few yellows and a grant invis will be seen too
Chilling embrace is an autohit aura that will let you see a stalker i think (not sure but pretty certain)
then there are +perception powers like minerals and cloak of fear (theres alot more) with tactics you can see alot thats not to mention clear mind either

Super invis does not work with other TOGGLE concealment powers but you get group invis and IT DOES stack with that and grant invis
pets have better perception so running tactics for them will get them to attack a hidden stalker even if you cant see them, this is especially true for MM
but why you trying to see a stalker anyway the at is designed not to be seen how many ATs can damage a tank enought to kill it with toggles up? what AT can out damage a blaster even a cor cant touch the double offencive pools it would be stupid for any other AT than a tank to try to take the damage they give out. trollers got awesome holds and uber buffs/debuffs somone trying to get into melee with a troller is usually fatal not many ATs can manage it and servive the encounter.
what i am trying to say is instead of trying to negate the stalker hide (which is hard i admit) you should try to counter it you only need to hit a stalker a few times to kill it (again this aint true with all ATs) i would(and do quite successfully) try to either servive the AS strike and stack 4 holds before he escapes it most ATs can do this (not all) this is the whole point of different ATs and thus i would hope it wouldent change or we may aswell just go to a generic elf/wizard/mage MMORPG and just train the stats we like (boring)

I dont have an invun brute but i do have a level 50 invun tank and i have zero end problems i have got temp invun and unyeilding 3 slotted for end red and invince one slotted and i just dont run out of endurance hope it helps

OK (cracks knuckles) All human PBs are the most damaging form of PBs there end is kinda narly but very managable Heres my PB build
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Name:
Level: 50
Archetype: Peacebringer
Primary: Luminous Blast
Secondary: Luminous Aura
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01) --> Glinting Eye==> Dmg(1)Acc(3)Dmg(17)Dmg(37)
01) --> Incandescence==> DmgRes(1)DmgRes(5)DmgRes(40)
02) --> Shining Shield==> DmgRes(2)EndRdx(3)DmgRes(7)DmgRes(13)
04) --> Gleaming Blast==> Acc(4)Dmg(5)Dmg(11)Dmg(29)EndRdx(46)
06) --> Essence Boost==> Heal(6)Rechg(7)Rechg(9)Rechg(34)Heal(34)Heal(37)
08) --> Radiant Strike==> Dmg(8)Acc(9)Dmg(11)Dmg(29)
10) --> Hurdle==> Jump(10)
12) --> Build Up==> Rechg(12)Rechg(13)
14) --> Health==> Heal(14)Heal(15)Heal(15)
16) --> Thermal Shield==> DmgRes(16)EndRdx(17)DmgRes(40)DmgRes(40)
18) --> Incandescent Strike==> Acc(18)Dmg(19)Dmg(19)Dmg(37)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20)EndMod(21)EndMod(21)
22) --> Reform Essence==> Rechg(22)Heal(23)Rechg(23)Heal(31)Rechg(31)Heal(34)
24) --> Conserve Energy==> Rechg(24)Rechg(25)Rechg(25)
26) --> Solar Flare==> Acc(26)Dmg(27)Dmg(27)Dmg(31)
28) --> Quantum Flight==> Rechg(28)
30) --> Challenge==> Empty(30)
32) --> Dawn Strike==> Dmg(32)Acc(33)Dmg(33)Dmg(33)
35) --> Photon Seekers==> Acc(35)Dmg(36)Dmg(36)Dmg(36)
38) --> Light Form==> Rechg(38)Rechg(39)EndMod(39)EndMod(39)Rechg(43)
41) --> Restore Essence==> Rechg(42)Heal(42)Heal(42)Rechg(43)Heal(43)
44) --> Glowing Touch==> Heal(44)Heal(45)Heal(45)Rechg(45)Rechg(46)Rechg(46)
47) --> Quantum Shield==> DmgRes(47)DmgRes(48)DmgRes(48)EndRdx(48)
49) --> Intimidate==> Acc(49)Fear(50)Fear(50)Fear(50)
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01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
01) --> Energy Flight==> Empty(1)
01) --> Cosmic Balance==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
10) --> Combat Flight==> Empty(10)
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This way you have maximum damage and but your attack chain isent too long to give you somme time to recoupé end you may want to take some slots off glowing touch and put it on end reduz on your attacks happy hunting

Umm personnally i would

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Name:
Level: 50
Archetype: Scrapper
Primary: Katana
Secondary: Super Reflexes
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01) --> Sting of the Wasp==> Dmg(1)Acc(5)Dmg(31)Dmg(37)
01) --> Focused Fighting==> DefBuf(1)DefBuf(3)DefBuf(7)EndRdx(31)DefBuf(46)
02) --> Flashing Steel==> Dmg(2)Acc(3)Dmg(27)Dmg(37)
04) --> Focused Senses==> DefBuf(4)EndRdx(5)DefBuf(9)DefBuf(25)
06) --> Agile==> DefBuf(6)DefBuf(7)DefBuf(9)
08) --> Divine Avalanche==> Acc(8)DefBuf(34)DefBuf(34)DefBuf(37)
10) --> Practiced Brawler==> Rechg(10)Rechg(11)Rechg(11)
12) --> Swift==> Run(12)Run(13)Run(13)
14) --> Health==> Heal(14)Heal(15)Heal(15)
16) --> Dodge==> DefBuf(16)DefBuf(17)DefBuf(25)
18) --> The Lotus Drops==> Acc(18)Dmg(19)Dmg(19)Dmg(34)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20)EndMod(21)EndMod(21)
22) --> Quickness==> Run(22)Run(23)Run(23)
24) --> Build Up==> Rechg(24)Rechg(43)Rechg(46)
26) --> Soaring Dragon==> Acc(26)Dmg(27)Dmg(31)Dmg(40)
28) --> Lucky==> DefBuf(28)DefBuf(29)DefBuf(29)
30) --> Calling the Wolf==> Taunt(30)
32) --> Golden Dragonfly==> Acc(32)Dmg(33)Dmg(33)Dmg(33)
35) --> Evasion==> DefBuf(35)DefBuf(36)DefBuf(36)EndRdx(36)
38) --> Elude==> DefBuf(38)DefBuf(39)DefBuf(39)Rechg(39)Rechg(40)Rechg(40)
41) --> Caltrops==> Rechg(41)Rechg(42)Rechg(42)Slow(42)Slow(43)Slow(43)
44) --> Shuriken==> Dmg(44)Acc(45)Dmg(45)Dmg(45)
47) --> Exploding Shurken==> Acc(47)Dmg(48)Dmg(48)Dmg(48)
49) --> Web Grenade==> Acc(49)Immob(50)Immob(50)Immob(50)
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01) --> Sprint==> Run(1)Run(17)Run(46)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
01) --> Critical Hit==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
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i dont think there is any need for a travel power with quickness sprint and swift slotted

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Doesnt bother me since leveling isnt the fun Im looking for(its just something that happends).

Its playing the game I think is fun.

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i concur

i like teaming with other brutes the most having a team of 2 or 3 brutes is ultra fun ultra fast and you have little chance of dieing (3 way damage sharing plus Brutes can generally heal themselfs better than an empathy healer)

i would say corrupters are the least PvP friendly AT out there (next to empathy defenders obviously) you have powerful attacks but cant lock anyone down longenough to do damage and your buff secondary are just that buffs wont be particually effective in PvP gen bot is your only friend (if it can keep up with you)

most builds of brute can regain both endurance and HP right?! i am dark dark i can refill my hp and endurance bar quickly it does cost alot to run dark armour so it does mean every couple of fights i need to rest but with soul drain i can start afight with asmuch damage as full fury bar and when soul drain runs out fury is usually full
i dont have stamina and i am not particually needy of endurance.... yes i hardly ever see my endurance bar full but that is neither here nor there

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My advice: Take Whirlwind

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i must honestly say if i find anyone ona team with whirlwind (and its not often) i politly ask them no to use it all it does is scatter foes and makes us other melee chars think were playing piggy in the middle ... if i found a brute using this as an escape power and using it in every battle i would leave!