Amy_Amp

I'll simplify this for you. It's Metallica with Cliff Burton and without. "But '....And Justice' didn't have Burton." They were too far along in the process to really do much else with the album. One of my friends who is a hardcore Metallica guy admits that album lacks a definitive voice from the bass because Newsted was tossed onto the record late. Once they got past that album, they stared to rethink things and without Burton there they branched out towards the masses more.

To be honest, I don't think I can blame them too much. It's like they knew that could do what they were doing and do it at a high level, but at some point you have to wonder what else is out there. I probably like "Master of Puppets" the most, but the Black album has some amazing individual songs on it.

To add somebody I don't think has been mentioned. Living Color first album for obvious reasons needs to be listed. The rest of their stuff falls more into check on a singles basis, but there's some great stuff there. I got a lot of frustration out listening to Auslander

Kings X is also worth looking into. Kings X were so good technically of a band other bands hated having Kings X open because they knew they had to follow Kings X.

At least in my head you can soft cap with SOs, but I'm not sure about end usage. I haven't even added all of the stuff I need to soft cap and I toss in GotA sets to help with end cost. It just seems like a lot of toggles to run with just SO slotting and Stamina.

I don't find /sonic to be any worse than say /storm. Hell, I think Fire and Ice are much worse than /sonic. I would rank /sonic as one of the better pairings with Elec though.

You quote the wrong person? I said nothing of controllers or stacking damage auras.

Anybody play around with a i19 version that would be something like this? I have way too many alts so I don't generally drop that much into any one build, but would be interested in seeing what a build would look like and the price range for it. The build is 40 so I have to level some and gather the resources for the build anyway, but I have the time with i19 still being down the road. Assume preferred travel power is SJ. I don't really need extra attacks in the epics. He's a monk type character anyway so tossing around Fireballs would be odd.

It would be interesting to have the Elec Epic have the damage aura for my Kin/elec to run though. I'm pretty much standing next to the tank anyway. Add in a damage aura that also helps with end drain and it's something to look at. Adding the damage aura for Dark would be a good option as well. A Dark/* defender can hang in melee.

If I only like red side well enough to play there more. I preordered CoV. I don't even have a level 40.

Which is like saying Build Up is impossible to make perma. It's not suppose to be, so you don't really need to try. Get it down as far as you can within reason and call it good. I'm working on my own KM/shield brute and it takes some adjusting to PS, but so far I like KM enough. If I don't like it in the end, I'm rerolling to SS and not looking back. I may go tank though for easier to cap Shield numbers. Plus, I have a love/hate relationship with Fury.

Didn't pay attention to the link the first time around. I kept seeing Dark being weak and I was wondering what the source was.

Ah, now the true context comes out. Dark isn't weak. It's that defenders are squishy.

However....

Coming from somebody who took the snipe at 22, Fearsome Stare at 28, T.T. at 30, and Nightfall at 35. Yeah, I won't even really comment about what my opinion of their build is and their previous comment. Now, if they want to complain about /dark's damage due to lack of a 3rd ST attack and it's DoT nature, then I'm right behind them. My guess is this person has a ways to go before posting a guide on Dark/dark.

Depending on what kind target it is and what attack the scrapper is using.

It's on a 6 minute timer. Scrappers have a way to boost their damage as well, so it's pretty much a wash.

EDIT: To the OP, you pick a brute when you want a nice mix of scrapper damage, but tank toughness.

What is Frezny, and how are brutes getting 100% Fury? If brutes are at 85% Fury they are doing really well.

What?

Baseless bull crap.

To the OP. Ill/rad and Fire/rad would be the ones I would do. If you want two different ATs, I would go one of the previous two and either Cold/ice, or the tank. Kin doesn't offer much in IOs, Dark/dark and Rad/rad are good, but not really sure the ceiling is that high for them after being pimped out. Wp/dark will be sturdy as hell. Cold/ice has some good options for personal def and I'm all for having a character toss out blaster level AoE's with using Sleet.

Golden Dragonfly has a small cone. Think of it more as a ST with potential for more awesome. It also has a 15% chance to get a critical hit compared to the other attacks that have 5%-10%.

You are level 24. Ding at least 26/27 and then see if it's better. If yes, ding 32/33 and then try to say Kat has kinda meh ST damage. Any set that is lacking it's two biggest hitters will feel meh.

/rad and /kin are the premier sets for any controller and they work here as well. Elec is melee based so you'll want to look at sets that play well in melee. Elec is so end friendly it will also be good for sets that have known higher end cost. If /kin and /rad are the top two, I would say /sonic is in the next group with maybe /storm based on how you want to handle Hurricane even if that means not taking it. I have yet to take Hurricane on a /storm controller, but I haven't rolled Grav/storm and Ill/storm yet either.

Edit: /cold will be really good as well. I would rank it higher than /kin actually.

And controllers.

Yeah, yeah. I'll shut up after this. Doing it that way a scrapper, or brute would be easy to do. I use something that has at least 2 AoEs. AoEs can come the secondary via a damage aura, or something like Shield Charge, Burn, etc. You could also take any lesser used blaster combo, have them use Hover to keep attacks coming in being ranged, top out ranged def, and do the same as well. A lesser used combo might be Rad/mental, which is going to have a bunch of AoEs.