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Did you know that there is a huge costume suggestion thread that the Devs look at? It's up in the Developer's corner section of the forums, I think.

Adding additional aura options has been asked for before (and really has nothing to do with your title ). I'm all for having 2, as long as they force you do put them in different spots (so you can't have two eye auras), and also for giving us more customizability in where we can put the auras.

To keep this a little more productive, one of the biggest problems that I have with Tankers is that their DPE is much lower than the other ATs with the same sets. This is mostly due to the fact that a power's endurance cost is not tied to the actual damage the power does, just the base scalar damage. So while a Tanker gets more for the same endurance cost on it's defensive powers, it is losing a significant amount more damage for the same endurance cost on its attack.

Defenders, Corruptors, and Blasters deal with this by having the attacks also have different debuff mods on their powers (actually a function of the debuff mod scalars), but Brutes, Scrappers, and Tankers don't. Basically, Scrapper attack secondary effects are just as strong as a Tanker's. So while Defenders at least get something for doing less damage, Tankers don't.


My other major problem is that while the intention (regardless of what some may think) of Tankers is to take hits, they don't get any reward for doing so. Brutes, however, do get a reward in the form of Fury for doing a Tanker's job and their own. This seems a bit backwards, but I'm certainly not going to suggest changes to that mechanic here. Most other ATs seem to have similar inherents, that reward them for doing their intended functions.


So Tankers have less DPE for no gain on their attacks (okay, except the Tier 1 power), while also not being rewarded for doing their job like most other ATs are. How do we fix this? How about a function like Fury that lowers a Tanker's endurance cost from powers the more they are attacked? Getting attacked by a full spawn for a bit basically halves the endurance cost of powers, allowing them to keep swinging for longer before they'd need a rest. If that's still not enough, pair it with a Recharge buff on a smaller scale, so that they can use their AoEs and other attacks more often than other melee ATs, for less cost.

I've held off on posting in this thread because I'm honestly unsure if anything needs to happen to buff Tankers.

However, if there were going to be a buff to Tankers, I think that the discussion needs to start at the very base levels: what separates a Tanker from a Scrapper or a Brute, and what is the intended separation between a Tanker and a Scrapper or a Brute.

Without a full understanding of those two items, I think that any proposed changes are just shots in the dark, and have little chance of being implemented.

I also don't think that's it's necessarily a good idea to get buffs that a majority of Tankers won't notice. For instance, the damage cap increase: if you're not a /SS Tanker, or constantly on a team with a Kin, you're probably not bumping up against the current limit, and so an increase in the top amount won't affect you.

So what then, do we do? We want to understand what both the Devs and Players think that the role of Tankers should be, and how they differ in both current implementation and desired implementation by both of those group. Without that understanding, this will go the same way the last several dozen threads like this went.

Hey all,

So, while I have off tomorrow, my fiancee doesn't. As such, I was thinking of starting up a brand new character since I'd be able to get a lot of playtime in. However, I am undecided as to what I should make. So, I've giving it to you all! I would like to keep it to either a Blaster, Controller, Corruptor, Defender, Dominator, or Stalker. But anything within those ATs that I don't have in my active roster is fair game!

So give me some ideas! It can be overpowered or underpowered, I don't really care.

Good luck, and Happy Thanksgiving!

Bruising definitely helps against the harder targets, which could otherwise slow a Tanker down. It's a 20% damage increase as long as you use your Tier 1 attack regularly.

The HP boost does help. More HP means more regen over time. It also means that Accolades and +HP bonuses help, even if you have a power like Dull Pain.


Tankers are otherwise good. Yes, they're not the offensive powerhouse of some other ATs, but they can take a much larger beating.

Melt Armor? Probably not. Fireball? Definitely a keeper.

Also, why don't you post these in the Brute forums?

It depends on what exactly you're looking for. If you just want a KB patch combined with AoE destruction, there are a lot of potential combos for that. If you're looking for ice patch/burn combos, those are more limited.

For the former, you can do something like a Fire/Trick Arrow Controller, an Ice/Fire/Fire Dominator, a Stone/Fire Brute (plenty of knockdown potential there), a Plant/Storm Controller, etc.

Also, if Regen is the only thing your Tanker has over other ATs, then you're doing something really wrong. The only set that really needs to worry about -Regen is Willpower.

And what's with the Lost? I can find them pretty darned easily. Are they just directionally impaired? Maybe they should put their minds into getting a hold of GPS units, instead of just inventing TV-helmets.

I have a feeling that if we ever get level 30-50 content in Praetoria, that we'll be able to have characters that are trying to invade Primal earth.

They used to, but a number of porcs worked...oddly...in them. For instance, some would damage or stun the user of the power in addition to the targets.

This is probably a Gamestop, or individual store, decision, not NCSoft's or Paragon Studio's decision.

Other game stores might have them, or Amazon.com.