Xanthus_EU

Any update on whether this is actually happening?

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N would you mind adding my oldies to the record, i no longer play them unfortunatly but they are lvl 50 =]

Zombie Russel - lvl 50 Katana/Invul - Body Mastery
AuroraPB - lvl 50 Peacebringer.

Cheers.

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Howcome you don't play them any more?

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gz av :P

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Wait, didn't you quit?

Me and Extremus will fight you.

Level 5, tactical start, no inspirations OK for you?

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[*]Ground rules: I'd like to try Tactical Start rules (disables insps) for fairness between true lvl 5s and exemped toons, but this is certainly open to discussion.

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Err, there's no arena setting that disables insps. Insps are an integral, required part of the game and disabling them is absolutely stupid. What tactical start does is make everyone start with 0 endurance.

Ask for arena and you shall receive

Do you have a team? How many players?

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Who did they play as?

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Grav/storm and mind/storm controllers. Two stormies are basically untouchable.


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(I completely forgot about this...)

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hahahaha n00b

Thread got deleted. Yay for US forum moderation!

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(And while I take part in their raids, I still say Union's are better organised - they don't even have specific colours for ATs...)

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We don't need them.

It's RyStorm. He's like one of the best PvPers in the US.

Figured we need another one of these after yesterday. I have

2x Lysosome Exposure (Tohitdebuff/defdebuff/acc) and I'll swap both of them together for any other type of HO. They go well in stuff like Parry and Divine Avalanche because they buff as well as debuff defence and tohit.

Depends what you want it for. If you're going to be in a support roll in a team, buffing sets like /kin and /emp are the best way to go. Typically these are coupled with Illusion since Superior Invis allows you to be invisible and fire off your buffs at the same time. Grav/emp is pretty nice too, since you can basically drop your singularity and then allow that to do the controlling for you while you buff/heal the rest of the team.

1vs1s, grav/rad and fire/rad are the best overall, with ice/rad being very nasty at 50 (with epic blast). Basically anything /rad is the way to go for duels, with grav and fire being the best two sets overall.

General annoyance, go with mind/FF, ice/storm, grav/storm, anything /TA.

If you do more baseraids than anything else (but I don't think there's anyone who rolls a toon specifically for baseraids), earth/ff and earth/storm are nasty.

If I knew a bit more about what you were planning on using it for, I'd be able to give better advice

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btw you get your own private brawl phase irradiator, dont worry we'll remove everyone so no one can interrupt it either, just you and hami

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Please do this. I'll do one for him at the Defiant raids as well.

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It wasnt about the kills, its about making you ineffective through sonic cage before ya made me.

I'd have to squishie hunt ya for the sake of my team in a pvp zone and put ya out of action basically cos ya would be a pain.

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And here's the clincher. Your cage isn't perma, and it's even less perma with that slotting. I only have to be out of the cage for about 30 seconds every four minutes. While you have me in the cage, the rest of my team is going to be all over you like a rash. Caging the sonic is caging the wrong person.

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06) --> Sonic Cage==> Rechg(6) Rechg(7) Acc(7) Acc(9) Range(9) Range(11)

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I can see what you're saying here, but then my cage would no longer be perma which is really what I'm going for. When Acc/Range/Recharge Invention-Os come in you can bet that my cage will have 3 of those in it instead of 3 recharge 3 acc.

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My sonic/sonic is 45 atm and if ya was to duel with the build on this post against me it would be like handing me the keys to your castle and expecting me to try and climb over the wall but at the end of the day i could of shown how id of kited ya.

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Well, yes. You'd either beat me or it'd be a draw. I certainly wouldn't get any kills. Why? Because I'm a support character. It's the same as saying "I'd totally beat that empath who has no attacks"; essentially a pointless statement. You wouldn't ever be in a one on one situation with that build, so why make such a big issue of it?

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But lets look at a 3 recharged attack what are we getting here.

Shriek base recharge 3 secs, action time 1.33 secs and with rechg 1.52, and its near perma, difference between 3 rechg and 2 rechg is a m00t .18 secs on a poo damage power when you have other attacks that deal more, i am sorry but i'd rather save endurance on it for better pve or have range.

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The attacks are for stacking -res primarily. Before this respec I had them slotted 2 acc 3 recharge, and I wasn't using them for damage. I just had the dam/acc Hami-Os spare and thought "Why not?"

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@Xanthus i am in no doubt my sonic sonic corrupter would have the upper hand if i pvp respec'd her and we had a duel. Range can be better than recharge.

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If I was to build a duel build with Decibellion it wouldn't look like this at all. This build is team support. I'd have more, and better, attacks like Shout and so on. If you want a fight against my duel build on Test though, you're more than welcome to it. What level is your sonic corruptor?

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I think you should take out sonic cage

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And I think you should take out Transference. However, this does not mean it will happen.

Also Shannon, you're welcome to try.

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I think ya over rechgd on some powers and perhaps end reds should go in.

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Tested this build on test tonight, and I had no trouble firing off attacks with TK running. I think the ribos in my shields really make a huge difference, considering I was running with only 2 endrdx in Sonic Dispertion before.

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and i cant see the need for haste or ss.

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What? Why?! Hasten makes Amplify come up, which means more cagey goodness. Plus SS is just awesome for movement, it's what I have on my grav/emp and I couldn't live without it.

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Id be a tper with tp foe.

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Why? Since when has TP been any good as a travel power in the arena or in PvP zones in general?

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Couple of force field questions with regards to pvp:

1) Personal Force Field

I’ve heard off but I’m not sure on the numbers of the defence cap, how does the PFF work with regards to the defence cap, is it under it, or not affected by it, or something else entirely?

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The way this game handles tohit and defence is weird. Iirc there is a hard defence cap, but it's incredibly hard to hit (if not impossible) without a lot of outside buffs. However, every single power always has a 5% chance to hit regardless of defence so there is sort of a "soft cap" in that respect.

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2) Detention Field

In pvp is this resisted by any status effect protection toggle, also can you use break frees to escape from it?

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No and no. Take it, learn how and when to use it, love it.

01) --> Sonic Siphon==> Acc(1) Acc(3) Rechg(3) Rechg(5) Rechg(5)
01) --> Shriek==> NucleExp(1) NucleExp(7) NucleExp(7) Rechg(9) Rechg(9) Rechg(15)
02) --> Sonic Haven==> RibosExp(2) DmgRes(11) DmgRes(11) Range(13) Range(13)
04) --> Sonic Barrier==> RibosExp(4) DmgRes(15) DmgRes(17) Range(17) Range(19)
06) --> Sonic Cage==> Rechg(6) Rechg(21) Rechg(21) Acc(23) Acc(23) Acc(25)
08) --> Combat Jumping==> Jump(8) Jump(46)
10) --> Swift==> Run(10) Run(43)
12) --> Sonic Dispersion==> RibosExp(12) RibosExp(25) RibosExp(27)
14) --> Super Jump==> MicroExp(14) Jump(27)
16) --> Hurdle==> Jump(16) Jump(19) Jump(46)
18) --> Scream==> NucleExp(18) NucleExp(29) NucleExp(29) Rechg(31) Rechg(31) Rechg(45)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20) EndMod(31) EndMod(33)
22) --> Amplify==> MembrExp(22) MembrExp(33) MembrExp(33)
24) --> Acrobatics==> EndRdx(24) EndRdx(34)
26) --> Clarity==> Range(26) Range(34) Range(34) Rechg(36) Rechg(36) Rechg(36)
28) --> Hasten==> Rechg(28) Rechg(37) Rechg(37)
30) --> Super Speed==> MicroExp(30) Run(37)
32) --> Stealth==> EnzymExp(32) EnzymExp(39)
35) --> Grant Invisibility==> Range(35) Range(39) Range(39) EndRdx(40) EndRdx(46)
38) --> Phase Shift==> Rechg(38) Rechg(40) Rechg(40)
41) --> Dominate==> EndopExp(41) EndopExp(42) EndopExp(42) Rechg(42) Rechg(43) Rechg(43)
44) --> Mind Over Body==> RibosExp(44) RibosExp(45) DmgRes(45)
47) --> Telekinesis==> Rechg(47) Rechg(48) Rechg(48) EndRdx(48) EndRdx(50) EndRdx(50)
49) --> Screech==> EndopExp(49) EndopExp(50)


The hami-o's in there are:

NucleExp: Acc/Dam
RibosExp: Damres/Endrdx
MembrExp: Tohit buff/Defence buff/Recharge
MicroExp: Travelspeed/Endrdx
EnzymExp: Tohit buff/Defence buff/Endrdx
EndopExp: Acc/Mez

Basically this build is designed to buff my team up and then annoy the hell out of the opposition with cage, TK and the -res debuffs from fast recharging attacks and Sonic Siphon. Grant Invis is there so that I can drop debuff toggles from people, and stealth just makes me harder to see and therefore attack, along with Phase Shift as a panic button.

Everything else is pretty much utility, as I find I rarely use Dominate in team PvP as I'm busy doing other things. Having said that, I need TK and Mind Over Body and I can't see Mass Hypnosis being any more useful. The ranged stun is in because I know it's annoying and also because I really can't think of anything more useful to take.

Thoughts?

All the cool kids have sonic/sonic defenders.

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Team PvP where we could actually pick our own teams would definitely sound more appealing to me, although not necessarily Pentad.


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Five or six man teams, no more than two of the same AT per team?

Or hell, if you want a team fight, name the size and the rules and we'll be there.

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Test

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Do this one.

EmPuSae was the only other person who could use THE CAGE properly

I'll miss the few times I fought you in Sirens.

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I'd like to see a Team Tournament, maybe no more than 2 of a any AT. Gives a bit more freedom (Example a group of friends may mainly play Support and only have on offense, so they could go Scrapper, Controller, Defender, Defender).

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This, with (unless anyone has any other ideas) four man teams? That way it's small enough that a good few teams could probably enter, but large enough to still be interesting.

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Other than that, 10 Minute Fight, Tactical Start (maybe?).

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Meh, not Tactical Start. I know that it's automatically put on if you rate the fights, but it really skews fights in favour of teams with a lot of +recovery buffs since a blaster can rush another team and pick up two or three kills before the other team are even toggled up properly.

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Weightband at 40, might encourage more Villainous players to join too.

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This. Plus it takes out the hilariously unbalanced Epic/Patron pools.