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See the following thread: Rebirth and Heal Badges

That is because the incarnate system isn't in the modified trial code that the reactivation allows.

What people can access has been mentioned in the two posts above yours. The point behind the reactivation weekend has been stated in the original post:
It is to try to let the EU players to get their global handle.

It will be the base account (whatever you paid for).

Stuck in Praetoria. Any praetorian characters will be unplayable until you apply a valid Going Rogue expansion to that account. You might be able to play characters that started in Praetoria, villain ATs in Paragon, hero ATs in the Rogue Isles, Vigilantes, or Rogues, but I wouldn't count on it. I also wouldn't count on keeping or using any Hero/Villain Alignment merits earned during this week either.

Any Demon Summoning or Dual Pistols characters will be unplayable until you apply a valid Going Rogue expansion to that account.

While you might have the costume parts beyond the reactivation week, you will lose them the instant you modify that costume at any tailor, unless you apply a valid Going Rogue expansion to that account.

The Sentinel program (and Herostats for that matter) does not in any way, shape, or form alter the game client.

I was able to get into the game with my inactive account last night. Around 8pm Pacific time.

Here is the closest thing we have for the official spawn times:
http://www.cityofheroes.com/game_inf...ter_guide.html

http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=259778

So, if I'm understanding you right, you are complaining that they were more efficient than they thought they would be? They promised the server list merge by the end of summer and they are done about 4 months sooner. I'm not seeing the problem. They under-promised and over-delivered.

Yes, that would tie into Zwillinger's post. I suppose I could have gotten technical and saying that the earning conditions should have been mutually exclusive, but that isn't the point. Like I said, in reality the patron badges are not mutually exclusive either. Any developer can turn them all on for a character, I know I have pictures of Black Pebble's badge list with all of them. I'm sure you have a similar screenshot of a Developer's badge list.

My posts about the two badges being mutually exclusive came at it from a different point of view, one that seems to be shared with the majority of players in this thread AND the developers: A primal character should never had access to the Agent of Praetoria Badge in the first place when they had the Agent of Order/Chaos badge. In that sense, they ARE mutually exclusive. THAT is the point that everyone here is trying to make.

In this case the badge has been identified as being improperly awarded by the game. I suspect that the badge sites will have a fix out sooner than the game itself.

The stated reason for the badge awarding IS exclusive. Agent of X is awarded for owning Going Rogue. Primal Earth characters earn Agent of Order or Chaos and Praetorian characters get Agent of Praetoria. The intent is clear that these are mutually exclusive badges.

The game may let you have both badges, but you can't fulfil all the requirements in one character (owning Going Rogue and being a Primal character or owning Going Rogue and being a Praetorian character), unless you are a developer. The game may even award the badge for getting into the tutorial, however that isn't working as intended according to the developers. Zwillinger, as a community rep, has already stated that "there were some players (not just the one referenced) who were able to get badges they weren't normally able to".

It doesn't matter if a bug allowed primal characters to get the badge. It was never the intent to be able to get both Agent of Order/Chaos AND Agent of Praetoria. A company representative's word that the characters aren't normally able to takes a higher priority than having screenshots of a character with both badges. In other words, if I can show with a bug with a screenshot that doesn't mean that it is working as intended.

Leandro, what you are saying is that the game has nothing to prevent both badges from awarding, like the patron badges. In reality there is just as much normally preventing people from having all 4 patron badges. The ONLY two badges that are mutually exclusive with the definition that YOU are using is Trusting and Arriviste badges. That level of distinction isn't needed in the Agent of X badges though.

Then pick a mission that doesn't involve going through the queue to start or making a full league prior to starting. You are given a very limited amount of choices:

You can have a full league prior to starting.
You can accept that you might get additional people from the queue.
You can do other content.
Be a <censored> and kick a player that is using the game as designed.

Note that there are 3 out of 4 choices that don't make you look or feel bad.

Well that is a choice, but that is your choice, and your responsibility. No one is forcing you to act unpleasantly to someone that is using the game as designed. Watch as you have less players to play with over time.

And your (and other's) insistence that you'd automatically kick people for using the system as designed makes me want to request the developers remove everyone's ability to make a league before starting the trials.

You are making a choice to kick someone from your team for using the game as designed. No one is forcing you to. I'm putting the obvious developer intention that leagues with less than the full amount of players over people having fits that someone might intrude in a public area of the game. Don't like it? You are free to do any other mission in the game.

If, and only if, the player invited accepts the invite.

I am a programmer, and while I did suggest something similar, I wouldn't want it as a process that is continually run. A script they could use during maintenance would be ideal as that would be a one time check for every character.

Sorry for the late reply, but when does May come after August? If it does happen tomorrow, then it will happen before the end of summer, as it is currently still spring.

It would have been interesting to see if Tiger had yet to collect any badges that were praetorian specific (inf collected, damage taken, healing, etc) after this. However there are several badges, besides the praetorian duplicates that could be checked against. The 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 level badges for instance.

Which is why I suggested different approaches for Avid Reader and Agent of Praetoria.

I'm a programmer, I work with databases, I don't pretend for a moment what I'm suggesting is "simple". However, what I'm suggesting is possible within their system. They have the means of automatically removing badges (they did so with several badges in Issue 7). They have the means to identify dates of badges earned since 2008 (Issue 13). The problem only deals with Issue 20 badge rewards (within the last 2 months).

They could easily check the level 10 badge for any character that has Agent of Praetoria. If it is a praetorian badge, then the character gets a "pass", if it is the primal version, the Agent of Praetoria has been awarded improperly and should be removed at that time.

Nice straw man, but that isn't accurate at all. Any team running content that you know ahead of time can add players to your team and then having the delusion that you will have a private group is bound to cause you frustration.

The trials are known, by the very presence of these threads (if not even casual observation of using the LFG to queue for the trials), to add players to leagues. If you and your wife enter the queue and expect to duo a trial, then you are in for a rude shock. Just like if you went to a public pool and expected to have the pool to yourselves.

If you and your wife are having a "private moment" in a public park you can expect to be discouraged/arrested for doing so. If you are having a private moment in an private venue, then you have a full expectation of privacy.

The trials are public venues by the fact that you can only access them from the Looking For Group system. The rest of the missions in game are private venues with the expectation of having a private group.

The issue here is one of access. In the majority of missions (aside from open zone missions in the PVP zones or in the raid zones), you can expect a private team. In the trials you can't. Is that bothersome for some players? Apparently. That doesn't make the trials less public.

Hah. That channel was taken over by the people that complained of over-moderation and more people are being silenced now than before.

When a channel's MOTD and description (found in the channel search window) are clear that the channel is moderated, people should expect mods to act. If they disagree with the level of moderation, then the are free to choose if they prefer that level of moderation or make a new channel that is less moderated.

If I may make a suggestion?
Actually, given some things I know about the system, Paragon Studios could make a script for the Agent of X badges where it checks characters to see if they have the 2 badges (2 different set_titles). If the script finds both badges, the script can then check the award dates and remove the newer badge.

You don't get a very rare component from a master badge, you get a rare (tier 3) component.

Hey! I thought you said that I was better at that position than you are. Who is cutting into who's act?

The likely solution might have to be 3. Both. A way for everyone to get avid reader and removing then properly re-awarding all Agent of X (Order/Chaos/Praetoria).

Heh I just noticed that my rate, if people just used Notices instead of earning shards, actually is more expensive than EvilGeko's numbers. Each Notice breaks down to 4 shards.

Geko's 3 notices for a Rare Thread vs my 1 Notice + 16 shards (4 notices broken down). If people just used Notices (and not stray shards) for my version of the Very Rare, it would take 14 Notices (2 notices for the base crafting and 8 notices for the 32 shards to craft the Favor, then an additional 4 for the extra 16 shards).

Oh, you wanted a long and pointless argument? I might be able to provide one.

The idea stinks because the developers use a dart board to determine prices and while they initially set prices higher during testing they reduce the price to make it appear they are listening to feedback.

Is that a good start?