@Zwillinger/@NCsoft: Idea/Hope for incarnate content for Non-VIP on beta-server
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Chad Gulzow-Man,
Posted on: 2012-09-21 09:23 in Player Questions
Sorry man, but there's no one left. What you're suggesting would take programmers, and they're all gone. 
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Sorry DumpleBerry, but i want to hear that from a redname before i believe it (Are you a disguised one? 
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Other people have had similar suggestions and been told that "what you request would require developer time, and there's no developers left." A couple weeks ago, Zwill said they couldn't even change the background image on the forums because there was no one to do it.
You can either accept that from TWO people (and I'm sure more will be along shortly), or hold your breath for a redname response that will probably never come. Your choice.
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Originally Posted by Chad Gulzow-Man
hold your breath for a redname response that will probably never come.
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@Roderick
It's not a pre-existing item. Which means people would need to write code to both put it in the store, and have it do what you're asking. There is no simple switch to flip, so it's probably not going to happen.
Chad, if you are not a hidden redname then you will surely not know how difficult this specific task is. (Meaning: some task need programmer, some task need designer, and this may be difficult or super easy... we just don ´t know)
so... I think i hold my breath. :P ^^
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Originally Posted by Lichtfunke
I think i hold my breath. :P ^^
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Originally Posted by Nethergoat
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And ALL TASKS need SOMEONE. And, as stated in my quote from Zwillinger above, the dev team doesn't have access to the code base any more.|
Originally Posted by Lichtfunke
some task need programmer, some task need designer
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There's nobody there that can do anything more than turn holiday/Double XP events on/off, and from what he's said, Zwillinger can't even do that himself, he needs to contact the server guys in Texas and get them to do it. And before you ask, no, server guys do NOT write new code.
@Roderick
I still don't see why the devs can't just cook up a batch of code on their stoves at home. Seems pretty simple to me. 
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They can make all the code they want at home. But when they aren't allowed access to the game's source code, there's no way to integrate the new code into the old.
Yes, I know you probably realize this. There may be certain people in the thread who might take you seriously, so I hope to stave off the crazed "YES! EXACTLY! THIS IS WHAT THEY NEED TO DO!"
@Roderick
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Originally Posted by Lichtfunke
Chad, if you are not a hidden redname then you will surely not know how difficult this specific task is. (Meaning: some task need programmer, some task need designer, and this may be difficult or super easy... we just don ´t know)
so... I think i hold my breath. :P ^^ |
I think I know which one this falls under.
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@DarkGob: Ho, slow down 
This was not meant to trigger the devs at home to brew something for the beta-server.
It is adressed to the guy which is according to my knowledge still in some charge legally at Paragon Studios.
Zwillinger will be able to check if such a change can or cannot be done by the remaining staff. And if it is doable i think he is the man who can ask NCsoft if he is allowed to do.
That´s all.
Zwillinger isn't in charge... He is (was) Paragon Studios' community representative.
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Originally Posted by Nethergoat
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Yes, i know he is the community representative... "in charge" was a little dramatic ^^
So you think he "was" community representative?
Everything i read pointed to the fact that Zwillinger is one of the last few remaining in Paragon Studio at the moment. As i understood, he is still the representant.
Am i wrong?
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Originally Posted by Lichtfunke
Chad, if you are not a hidden redname then you will surely not know how difficult this specific task is. (Meaning: some task need programmer, some task need designer, and this may be difficult or super easy... we just don ´t know)
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It quite clearly states in the farewell announcement:
http://na.cityofheroes.com/en/news/n.../thank_you.php
Which Zwillinger repeated on the forums:
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
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Zwillinger is responsible for none of those three roles. More to the point, if Zwillinger said that they can't change the settings behind the scenes, then what makes you think that they can do so in a way that players can access?
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
Now for the details, starting on Wednesday, September 19, 2012, all accounts which were previously subscribed as VIP as of September 1st, 2012 will be flagged as VIP for the remainder of the duration, sans recurring billing. Unfortunately we will not be able to flag any accounts that were not VIP as such during this period.
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Yes, you are wrong. There is no one to do your request. The remaining staff of Paragon Studios consists of forum mods. Zwillinger is in charge of telling the community what NCsoft is dictating to the players in as nice of manner as humanly possible. Your request means less than nothing to the management of NCsoft.|
Originally Posted by Lichtfunke
Everything i read pointed to the fact that Zwillinger is one of the last few remaining in Paragon Studio at the moment. As i understood, he is still the representant.
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There isn't a designer or programmer left. Even if there was someone able to do your request, there is no way that they would be able to get approval from NCsoft.
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Originally Posted by Lichtfunke
So you think he "was" community representative?
Everything i read pointed to the fact that Zwillinger is one of the last few remaining in Paragon Studio at the moment. As i understood, he is still the representant. Am i wrong? |
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showt...61#post4400661
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Originally Posted by Nethergoat
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@SnowGlobe two posts:
- requirements:
I agree mostly. I think there is some "code to set up" and someone who could enable the item in the store". Design is neglectable due to beta-server-store and, oh yes, because the game is going down ^^
- VIP freeze Post:
That was one reason i started this thread.
- Zwillinger:
I know Zwillinger is a Forum Mod. But well... he is the only one i knew i can ask for. And there was the rumor that he engaged the doublexp and beta server access for premiums.
So call this thread a blind shot
- "Approval from NCSoft":
Well, this is a hard one, but it is possible this option, which does not influence the real servers and maybe could smooth some waves, could be considered by NCSoft.
@Chad Gulzow-Man:
Thanks.
I didn´t see this.
... Damn. So goes the last blink of hope.
... well not the last one, but the glow went all down the chimney and i can not really see it from here.
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Am I really the only one that saw his humor in this?
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Originally Posted by DarkGob
I still don't see why the devs can't just cook up a batch of code on their stoves at home. Seems pretty simple to me.
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Originally Posted by Stone Daemon
Am I really the only one that saw his humor in this?
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Hups. I missed the irony.
Sorry DarkGob for the missunderstanding.
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These two are the reason why it wont happen. Especially the first one as there is no one left to set up the code.
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Originally Posted by Lichtfunke
@SnowGlobe two posts:
- requirements: I agree mostly. I think there is some "code to set up" and someone who could enable the item in the store". Design is neglectable due to beta-server-store and, oh yes, because the game is going down ^^ - "Approval from NCSoft": Well, this is a hard one, but it is possible this option, which does not influence the real servers and maybe could smooth some waves, could be considered by NCSoft. |
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I can verify that the box code trick doesn't work anymore. My brand new Architect Edition states that the serial code is invalid.
Dear Zwillinger.
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Dear NCSoft.
I want to make a suggestion for the beta server:
___Add an item to the beta-server store which allows buying access to incarnate-content.___
It would allow former-VIPs to play one last time with all powers we "worked" so hard for.
It surely is not as easy as it sounds, but it would have no side effects on the real servers or accounts.
And for me it would make a difference.
I hope you can help us again.
With best regards
Chris
Some background for all readers:
- The beta server is open also for non-vip at the moment (thx Zwillinger
The beta server shop allows to buy nearly everything besides the incarnate content.
- The "box code trick" to go to VIP looks like it is dead.
At least the support-answer i recieved, Zwillingers last "player service update" and the answers in some other threads (http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=296832) point out that it is not possible to update to VIP anymore.
(I will recieve a box next week and, of course, will try it out, but i don´t think it will work)