Why is NCSoft murdering our Game?

Originally Posted by PapaSlade Rangle's right....this is fun.

Happens quite often actually.

Especially in Atlanta, and I heard in Chicago too.

Originally Posted by mauk2 Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words. "Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L!

Hi E_L, Usually apartment complexes aren't demolished while people are still living in them, when the buildings are in reasonable repair, don't violate health codes or zoning statutes and produce revenues. (We were a stable, loyal customer base, not huge but not miniscule either, and produced revenues of around $10 million annually.) Sometimes buildings are preserved based on some noted historical significance. In any event, the analogy of buildings to MMORPGs is merely an analogy, and limited at best.

I might have missed your initial posts where you were asking why people were so upset about the game closing. From my, admittedly, speed read-scanning of the posts, all I saw was few people saying that the game was ending and that attempting to keep the game from going away for every without end was a fruitless effort and everyone should just give up now, if not sooner.

I don't think I ever said that you had to feel anything emotionally for the game. If I did, I apologize. Mainly what I insist on is that those people that have given up hope already refrain from dissuading those of us who haven't given up hope from attempting to keep the game from going away forever without end.

The problem is, that some of the people that agree with NCSoft's decision to close CoH are actively attempting to dissuade people from putting any faith in Plan Z, or any other plan to get CoH back. Most of them are quite rude about it as well. We're not telling them that they have to put faith in Plan Z (or the other plans). I'm just telling them to stop telling us that the cause is hopeless.

I will decide when I will cease hoping for a desired outcome. No one else has the right or the authority to tell me otherwise. Really, that's what this whole "discussion" boils down to in a nut shell.

true.

But on the other side, some of those plan z people have been just as rude if not ruder in getting their message across. Some people merely mentioned that Plan Z may not work and they are labled all types of negative names and then it get twisted into "oh you lost hope dont try to convince me to give up hope." or "So you are saying all hope is useless." When half the time that is not what anyone is saying.

You want to hope that is fine, that is good. But just because some people is not as enthuse, doesnt mena they given up all hope or is saying all hope is lost. Some people have a different way of looking at the situation and it's gets tiring when those Plan Z/Titan people seem to jump on and label anyone that is not sharign their exact view or definition of hope as trolls,NCSoft employees, people who is saying hope is useless and etc. And with that attitude here, of course people are going to get rude after a while. It's easy, respect those that may have a different view and most people wont bother you about the hope but when those people come in and ridicule those that dotn have as much hope as them and speak in absolute like "Oh you are saying all hope is lost and hope is stupid" when most that they slap that label on said no such thing, then of course many will fire back.

Just as you dont want to be convinced that hope is lost, stop tryign to convince people to hope more to ridiculing them even if they just so happen to think hope is lost. If you nor the others of plan z/titan cant respect their view, why the hell are they expecting people to respect they view when they dont show a single shred of respect to those that is not on their level of hope and havea different view about things? It works both ways not "give all respect to Plan Z/Titan and hopefuls while they down, insult, ridicule everyoen that offers a different view.

We both know that at this point that there is no convincing the other side to switch over but expecting one side to stop firing back and just take what ever label insult ridicule that come their way from the plan z/titan/hopefuls then that probably wont happen.

We would like them to to stop activily insulting anyone who offers a different view than pure hope. And just because it's not pure hope doesnt mean that they think that all hope is lost. Stop with the insults fro mthat side and I'm sure things will die down and be more civil. Stop trying to convince people they need to hope to TonyV and his circles standards or else they are saying all hope is lost and then people probably will stop trying to convince your group.

It either will work both ways or no way. But it probably wont happen just one way that only benefits that side while they continue to act in a negative and insulting manner to the other.

Originally Posted by mauk2 Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words. "Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L!

Actually many times the apartments are demolished when people are still living in them of course not physically inside the building while demolishing is taking place.

Lost of places in South Atlanta was demolished and shopping malls put in their place.

A few places East Atlanta, demolished while people was residing, and expensive condos were put in their place. Many of those people are now still homeless.

West Atlanta, Bankhead Courts, people was living there, demolished 2010.


It do happen and not all places get demolished were long abandoned unused buildings. It was places that people called home but due to money talking, they were kicked to the curb. And these examples were in basic health code regulation, and many besides one still remained residential and that one was switched to commercial after they kicked everyone out. And only the mall actually produced revenue after the fact. The rest was demolished and replaced with more upscale condos that the current residence could not afford.

Originally Posted by mauk2 Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words. "Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L!

Generally speaking, those people who still have a sliver of hope, don't go around trying to talk everyone else around to abandoning all efforts in working towards whatever they are hoping to achieve. I could name a few on these boards who have done exactly that.

I can't speak for everyone else here, but when one of those people try to tell me to abandon all hope, I reply with "Dum Spiro Spero." I'm sure you've probably seen me use that in that other thread But I will translate it again just in case other readers have missed it. It means, "While I have breath, I hope."

I also try to be reasonable in my responses to those people, at least at first. Sometimes, I don't quite manage. Other times, I know that reasonable won't work on them and I either refrain from posting a reply all together, or I slip and post something less than polite.

Normally, you show me respect, and I will show you respect in return. In fact, I will show you respect until you demonstrate that you don't deserve my respect. Some have demonstrated that without ever posting a reply to me personally.

I'm glad we could clear some of the misunderstanding between us up. I hope you have a pleasant day.