Per level of effort, the Purp route would be more profitable, but has a higher start up cost (if you go for flipping). In contrast, AE farms take some work, but tickets can provide a fairly solid revenue stream, although not likely one as large as purps.
However, if you're taking the farming route, AE ticket farms are a virtually guaranteed source of income while Purp recipe farms are dependent on the RNG, which can be a harsh mistress.
AE Farms are much much faster with the SS/Fire vs purple farming. 20 minutes a day nets you 10k tickets. Rolling bronze you can easily average 100-250 million from the drops, sometimes as high as 300-400 million depending on your luck. There is no way you'll ever see those kind of returns trying to go after purples.
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And how long is it going to take you to craft all that, and how much in startup inf for salvage?
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Originally Posted by MrLiberty
AE Farms are much much faster with the SS/Fire vs purple farming. 20 minutes a day nets you 10k tickets. Rolling bronze you can easily average 100-250 million from the drops, sometimes as high as 300-400 million depending on your luck. There is no way you'll ever see those kind of returns trying to go after purples.
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Zero startup inf should do the trick. You are getting influence from kills too, enough to pay for salvage and then some.
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I sell about 3/4ths of it in recipe form as it usually moves stupidly fast. Its not uncommon to see something like 200-400 bids with 1-10 for sale in recipe form vs. 200-300 bids with 100 for sale in crafted form. |
Originally Posted by OneFrigidWitch
And how long is it going to take you to craft all that, and how much in startup inf for salvage?
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Examples taken from today's sales.
LoTG Defense recipe - Sold for 40 Million.
Sale price of the last 5 crafted - 50 million.
Reactive Armor End/Res - Sold for 25 million.
Sale price of the last 5 crafted - 40 million.
Sometimes I will take the time to invent when the drop, like say Kinetic combat dmg/end selling for 40-50 million recipe 80 million crafted. But in the end, mostly I just list recipes up and let someone else make the last 5-20 million off of inventing/reselling.
So no start up is required to hit those numbers and if you want to do it quickly you can just list them in recipe form. The OP already mentioned having farming toons ready, so I'd say he or she is good to go.
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Personally, this is the first time in about 2 years I've tried to make any money. As I've coasted through on what I had built up for a while now. I was more than a little surprised how quick you can hit 2 billion on one character just running some AE farms. I started out at 700 million 4 days ago and I'm sitting on 1.6 billion liquid with another 300 million waiting to sell and 2 or 3 hundred million waiting for market spots to open up. I *could* email them to other toons and start listing, but I'm going about this the lazy/casual way.
Purp farming is in the mercy of rng, while ae is a guaranteed reward. So I'd vote for ae, rolling bronze. You will get about 140 recipes per 9999 tix, and if you only sell the top 50 recipes, you will make around 200-300 inf
its a push.
I do both depending on my mood.
there is no sure thing
i have run 9999 tickets in a day and got crap
and i have run 3 days of purple farms in a row and got none.
whats more fun and what can you handle best is whats really the question.
no sure things and no free lunch.
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Originally Posted by graystar_blaster
its a push.
I do both depending on my mood. there is no sure thing i have run 9999 tickets in a day and got crap and i have run 3 days of purple farms in a row and got none. whats more fun and what can you handle best is whats really the question. no sure things and no free lunch. |
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If I may, let me shed some further light on this topic.
In a nutshell, it may take you 7 runs of Unai Kemen's Freak map, or 11 runs of the council map to get one purple worth 150 to 300 million uncrafted.
But - what else did you get? Surely you got a Thunderstrike or two. A Doctored Wounds, maybe even a Numina or even a respec recipe!
I have always made far more inf off the other drops while hoping for the purples. The purples are just gravy.
Crafting time? If you're on the council map, it takes very little time because the council drop arcane and tech salvage both - so most of your common recipes will craft without any more fuss than just finding a crafting bench. As for the rare salvage - which I confess I'm always missing - that's when you go into AE and use those tickets so you don't have to plunk down the inf for that rare salvage. For a while, I was keeping all the rare salvage in my character's vault - but forgot they were in there and kept using tickets for them anyway.
So, in my mind, there's no question - farming for purples is worth far more to me than farming for tickets. But, your experiences may differ from mine.
Just don't discount the other drops that aren't purple - it doesn't take many to add up to more than a purple.
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@Ukase
I run Unai's Council map when I want to PL a character, and when I get a purple drop I'm quite pleased. But frankly I can't imagine running it JUST for the drops.
But I guess I understand that some people can't imagine staring at the market interface for more than two minutes either.
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Originally Posted by Ukaserex
If I may, let me shed some further light on this topic.
In a nutshell, it may take you 7 runs of Unai Kemen's Freak map, or 11 runs of the council map. |
I'm pretty sure 1 freak map takes well over 25 minutes to clear and you can fit 2 - 3 ish runs of council into the same time frame.
The AE generates you 150+ uncommon and rare recipes in the range of your choice.
Council map usually nets me around 20 some recipes per run. These include commons, temp powers, costume pieces, but also purples, the chance for pool C dropps off bosses. (Also salvage)
The AE ends up generating you 4-5 times more recipes (that don't include commons and temp powers) at the cost of hitting the lotto with a good pool C drop or a purple. Even if you add in rare salvage as a "recipe" and count them as 2, in most cases you're still looking at the AE outpacing regular maps 3-1.
Not saying you should stop or change what you are doing, just how things have played out from my own experience trying both.
What is a good Redside map to farm for pruples. I run mostly doms and I managed to find a small gem of farm for my Earth/Ice/Ice that can get 1600Tix for less than 10 minutes.
I am just curious about a red side map that can let me farm.
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What's more profitable, a Fire/Kin (or any other toon that can farm) farming for purple drops, or a SS/Fire (again or another AE farmer) farming for tickets/PL'ing?
I understand a lot of this can vary, you can get 5 purps in 10 runs or 0 purps in 10 runs. I'm just looking for an overall consensus.
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