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Would it be viable to go with a high Regen build? Just throwing this out there.


 

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Oh, does anyone know whether Genetic Corruption is going to be an autohit, or will it require a ToHit Check? I'm thinking of adding the Sandman heal proc for some more survivability.
Disclaimer: I haven't played the Stalker version of the set past level 8 since I got bored running around solo. Everything I say here is second- or third-hand.

I did chat on beta with someone talking about how great Genetic Corruption is, though - since its duration is longer than its interval it will stack if you're by yourself and sleep bosses when slotted for sleep, and it will take the chance for Placate proc in any case preventing things from attacking you (no, you won't get extra crits from the Fortunata Hypnosis proc since placating a mob != you being in hidden status).

It should be autohit, since it also carries the -damage in the set; as for the sleep effect it only has a chance to sleep but the percentage increases in Offensive mode... which means that you'll be doing more damage while fewer things are attacking you. Numerically it looks inferior for survivability compared to Scrappers but due to the mez you'll probably end up roughly the same or maybe a bit ahead, while doing less damage from the lost -resistance.


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Disclaimer: I haven't played the Stalker version of the set past level 8 since I got bored running around solo. Everything I say here is second- or third-hand.

I did chat on beta with someone talking about how great Genetic Corruption is, though - since its duration is longer than its interval it will stack if you're by yourself and sleep bosses when slotted for sleep, and it will take the chance for Placate proc in any case preventing things from attacking you (no, you won't get extra crits from the Fortunata Hypnosis proc since placating a mob != you being in hidden status).
Has this actually been tested? I only ask because in the Mids database (which should be up to date with the latest changes, but could be wrong, of course) the Sleep is flagged not to stack.

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It should be autohit, since it also carries the -damage in the set;
Foes are flagged as Autohit from what I can tell, but it also accepts Accuracy enhancements (don't know if it actually does in game, though).

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as for the sleep effect it only has a chance to sleep but the percentage increases in Offensive mode... which means that you'll be doing more damage while fewer things are attacking you. Numerically it looks inferior for survivability compared to Scrappers but due to the mez you'll probably end up roughly the same or maybe a bit ahead, while doing less damage from the lost -resistance.
For reference, this is what I see:

Base: 7.15 second Mag2 Sleep at 50 (66% Chance), -11.25% Damage(All)

Efficient: 7.15 second Mag2 Sleep at 50 (66% Chance), -11.25% Damage(All), +30% Regeneration

Offensive: 7.15 second Mag2 Sleep at 50 (85% Chance), -11.25% Damage(All)

Defensive: 7.15 second Mag2 Sleep at 50 (66% Chance), -14.96% Damage(All), Self +5.625% Resist(S/L/T), +7.5% Resist(F/C/E/N/P)


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I did chat on beta with someone talking about how great Genetic Corruption is, though - since its duration is longer than its interval it will stack if you're by yourself and sleep bosses when slotted for sleep, and it will take the chance for Placate proc in any case preventing things from attacking you (no, you won't get extra crits from the Fortunata Hypnosis proc since placating a mob != you being in hidden status).
Thanks for sharing that info. The Fortunata proc-critical was just wishful thinking but really isn't needed to make Bio good. I have ideas bouncing around my head on what to pair with it and how to approach the build. Going to play around on Mids' and see if it all pulls together.


 

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What, no chance of crit from Fortunata proc? Crap...Eh, either way, with that sleep aura, I probably shouldn't need it if it has a chance to put bosses to sleep. Hell yes!

Definitely going Elec Melee on this one, simply because any weapon powerset really doesn't look good with it. The large carapace arm with the Electric Melee AS...Closest thing to get an Alex Mercer costume.


 

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...Closest thing to get an Alex Mercer costume.
Off topic... My brother worked on the Prototype games. Unfortunately Activision decided to close Radical's doors and laid off pretty much everyone last month. I hope you enjoyed those games, he worked really hard on them.


 

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Off topic... My brother worked on the Prototype games. Unfortunately Activision decided to close Radical's doors and laid off pretty much everyone last month. I hope you enjoyed those games, he worked really hard on them.
Ohh, damn...Seriously? That sucks, I really enjoyed the series! It, for one, not only had an interesting story and confusing protagonist, but it was very much all about the smashing and--

I digress here. Just for this, I'm definitely going with the Alex Mercer costume in memory of a good game that should have gone on further.


 

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Has this actually been tested? I only ask because in the Mids database (which should be up to date with the latest changes, but could be wrong, of course) the Sleep is flagged not to stack.
I can't guarantee anything, as I haven't tested it myself. But the conversation and two posts from Starsman in the official thread (snip from one below) seem to indicate that it stacks, and it wouldn't be the first time that Mid's had a flag set wrong and provided incorrect values (see: Patron Ranged attacks for Stalkers always counting the critical):
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Currently:

After 0-4 seconds in battle you sleep minions.
After 4-8 seconds in battle you sleep bosses and lts.


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I can't guarantee anything, as I haven't tested it myself. But the conversation and two posts from Starsman in the official thread (snip from one below) seem to indicate that it stacks, and it wouldn't be the first time that Mid's had a flag set wrong and provided incorrect values (see: Patron Ranged attacks for Stalkers always counting the critical):
As I stated on that thread, though: I did not have any data at time to be certain that was accurate. I have been moving all weekend so I have had no time to check, and to be fair, once I get time, I have a lot of other stuff I want to get into.

If you have time and can check in game, see if it's flagged as no-stack there.


 

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I'm at work on a slow day, which is why I'm poking around here.


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As I stated on that thread, though: I did not have any data at time to be certain that was accurate. I have been moving all weekend so I have had no time to check, and to be fair, once I get time, I have a lot of other stuff I want to get into.

If you have time and can check in game, see if it's flagged as no-stack there.
Can't check straight from in-game. The powers info box comes up empty for Genetic Corruption.


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Can't check straight from in-game. The powers info box comes up empty for Genetic Corruption.
Well, you can but it would have to be empyrical testing. Bosses in AE with no attacks or some such, standing around in Offensive (best chance) and seeing if they go to sleep.

My Stalker doesn't have the power, as mentioned earlier, so I couldn't test it.


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I just tested it, genetic corruption's sleep will not stack.


 

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I just tested it, genetic corruption's sleep will not stack.
Aww.

It sounded a bit too good to be true, but I admit that I was hopeful.


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I just tested it, genetic corruption's sleep will not stack.
So... that means it will ever only effect minions? Egad, it just keeps getting worse.


 

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So... that means it will ever only effect minions? Egad, it just keeps getting worse.
I don't get it. Not trying to be a jerk, I'm just confused as to how this is aweful.
Bosses are only around for a couple seconds anyway due to stalker damage (or placate if you dare). You can get righteous regen after taking him out leaving just lts looking to overcome your regen and defense and -dam and s/l resist and whatever else you got. Sounds quite potent to me.

BTW, Genetic Corruption sounds like a great place to put a call of the sandman heal proc. In large groups, it should act like a HoT... until I24 anyway.


 

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Yeah, Genetic Corruption sounds amazing. Minions asleep means more time focusing on the harder targets and mopping them up later. And the -Dmg isn't anything to scoff at.