Beeen out of game since 2004 need advice please


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HI, i found this build that im going to give it a shot, i been out of game since 2004 and i only understand what i remember since back in 2004, here is the guide i found , let me know if i need to correct anything, i got this build from
Olepi's Ice.ice Blaster Guide ( 1 2 )



Archetype: Blaster
Primary Powers - Ranged : Ice Blast
Secondary Powers - Support : Ice Manipulation

01 : Chilblain acc(01)
01 : Ice Blast acc(01) dam(3) dam(3) dam(5) dam(7) dam(9)
02 : Ice Bolt acc(02) dam(5) dam(7) dam(13) dam(15) dam(17)
04 : Frost Breath acc(04) dam(40) dam(40) dam(40) dam(43) dam(45)
06 : Aim recred(06) recred(25) recred(31)
08 : Hasten recred(08) recred(9) recred(11) recred(13) recred(15) recred(17)
10 : Freeze Ray acc(10) hlddur(11) hlddur(33) acc(34) recred(39) hlddur(39)
12 : Hurdle jmp(12)
14 : Super Speed endred(14)
16 : Build Up recred(16) recred(27) recred(31)
18 : Bitter Ice Blast acc(18) dam(19) dam(19) dam(21) dam(21) dam(23)
20 : Health hel(20)
22 : Stamina endrec(22) endrec(23) endrec(25) endrec(27) endrec(29) endrec(31)
24 : Stealth endred(24) defbuf(46) defbuf(46) defbuf(50)
26 : Ice Storm slw(26) slw(34) slw(34)
28 : Bitter Freeze Ray acc(28) hlddur(29) hlddur(33) recred(33) acc(37) hlddur(39)
30 : Ice Patch endred(30)
32 : Shiver acc(32)
35 : Blizzard dam(35) dam(36) dam(36) dam(36) dam(37) dam(37)
38 : Grant Invisibility endred(38)
41 : Body Armor damres(41) damres(42) damres(42) damres(42) damres(43) damres(43)
44 : Cryo Freeze Ray acc(44) acc(45) hlddur(45) hlddur(46)
47 : LRM Missile acc(47) dam(48) dam(48) dam(48) dam(50) dam(50)
49 : Ice Sword acc(49)

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01 : Brawl Empty(01)
01 : Sprint jmp(01)
02 : Rest hel(02)




NOW i do not understand Enhancement Diversification yet, been doing some reading and still cannot comprehend what it all means, im disable so somethings i just cant understand


so for the build above ill be slotting if i remember what i need from the enhancement stores where i buy im quesing are called origins or so's till lvl 50 then try to figure out this Enhancement Diversification stuff,


Anthing wrong with this build above im going to try, i will be replacing hurdle and super jump to hover and fly?? Not sure how much sloting i need to do for fly and hover


 

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You have alot of reading to catch up on. This should get you caught up.



Enhancement Diversification (http://http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/E...iversification)

Essentially dont slot more than 3 SOs worth of a particular attribute -

Stamina - 3 End Mods
Attack power - 1 acc/1 end redux/1 recharge/3 damage
Flight - 3 fly
Hover - 3 fly

Other links

Mid's Hero Planner (http://www.cohplanner.com)

IO's for Newbs, Casual Playas, & Cheapskates [I9] by Capn Canadian
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=121255

Mini-Guide to Unique IO's+ Perf. Shifter+Endurance
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=123922

Planning Builds for IO Set Bonuses by Scrapulous
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=119339

Guide to Perma Domination with IOS by Brev
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=120644

Invention Origin Enhancement Sets on Paragon Wiki
http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/IO_Sets

Why is the softcap so important? Dechs Kaison
http://dechskaison.blogspot.com/2011...important.html


Now I know it is a lot of reading and information to soak in but that's the best way (IMO) for one to learn it all.


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Originally Posted by Emjack View Post
HI, i found this build that im going to give it a shot, i been out of game since 2004 and i only understand what i remember since back in 2004, here is the guide i found , let me know if i need to correct anything, i got this build from
Olepi's Ice.ice Blaster Guide ( 1 2 )



Archetype: Blaster
Primary Powers - Ranged : Ice Blast
Secondary Powers - Support : Ice Manipulation

01 : Chilblain acc(01)
01 : Ice Blast acc(01) dam(3) dam(3) dam(5) dam(7) dam(9)
02 : Ice Bolt acc(02) dam(5) dam(7) dam(13) dam(15) dam(17)
04 : Frost Breath acc(04) dam(40) dam(40) dam(40) dam(43) dam(45)
06 : Aim recred(06) recred(25) recred(31)
08 : Hasten recred(08) recred(9) recred(11) recred(13) recred(15) recred(17)
10 : Freeze Ray acc(10) hlddur(11) hlddur(33) acc(34) recred(39) hlddur(39)
12 : Hurdle jmp(12)
14 : Super Speed endred(14)
16 : Build Up recred(16) recred(27) recred(31)
18 : Bitter Ice Blast acc(18) dam(19) dam(19) dam(21) dam(21) dam(23)
20 : Health hel(20)
22 : Stamina endrec(22) endrec(23) endrec(25) endrec(27) endrec(29) endrec(31)
24 : Stealth endred(24) defbuf(46) defbuf(46) defbuf(50)
26 : Ice Storm slw(26) slw(34) slw(34)
28 : Bitter Freeze Ray acc(28) hlddur(29) hlddur(33) recred(33) acc(37) hlddur(39)
30 : Ice Patch endred(30)
32 : Shiver acc(32)
35 : Blizzard dam(35) dam(36) dam(36) dam(36) dam(37) dam(37)
38 : Grant Invisibility endred(38)
41 : Body Armor damres(41) damres(42) damres(42) damres(42) damres(43) damres(43)
44 : Cryo Freeze Ray acc(44) acc(45) hlddur(45) hlddur(46)
47 : LRM Missile acc(47) dam(48) dam(48) dam(48) dam(50) dam(50)
49 : Ice Sword acc(49)

-------------------------------------------

01 : Brawl Empty(01)
01 : Sprint jmp(01)
02 : Rest hel(02)




NOW i do not understand Enhancement Diversification yet, been doing some reading and still cannot comprehend what it all means, im disable so somethings i just cant understand


so for the build above ill be slotting if i remember what i need from the enhancement stores where i buy im quesing are called origins or so's till lvl 50 then try to figure out this Enhancement Diversification stuff,


Anthing wrong with this build above im going to try, i will be replacing hurdle and super jump to hover and fly?? Not sure how much sloting i need to do for fly and hover

Yes the game has changed so much since I started playing in 2006,best advice has already been given but you will find a lot of helpful people here.You will find the forums have change a bit as well there seems to be a forum for every type of power set,so may be a good idea to read up on them as well.with fly I generally have 2 slots for hover 1 I normally slot the hover with a knock back protection.Welcome back to the game have fun.


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Umm.

You might want to pretend it's a sequel, "City of Heroes Extreme" or something, and start over at level 1. There are many things the same, but I think it's more different than similar.

ED, specifically, means you pretty much can't slot more than about 95% bonus no matter how much you put in a power. (three SO's = 100%; that's where the rule comes from.) So "one accuracy five damage" is dead.

The invention system opens up new levels of power for new levels of influence. You can go with generic IO's (like SO's, maybe a little better, but they never "go red"), you can "frankenslot" with a mix of cheap IO's and get 30-60% more accuracy/recharge/endurance/whatever, or you can start spending a lot of money on set IO's and practically make an entire new secondary.

It is also very, very complex. I would advise sticking with SO's until you feel like you have a handle on the rest of the game changes.


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Originally Posted by Emjack View Post
HI, i found this build that im going to give it a shot, i been out of game since 2004
Wasn't someone just saying how nobody who's been gone for that long would ever come back, so we ought to give all their names away?


Huh.


Anyway, WELCOME BACK!
I'll leave the advice to the smart people, other than to say good luck!


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Originally Posted by Fulmens View Post
Umm.

You might want to pretend it's a sequel, "City of Heroes Extreme" or something, and start over at level 1. There are many things the same, but I think it's more different than similar.

ED, specifically, means you pretty much can't slot more than about 95% bonus no matter how much you put in a power. (three SO's = 100%; that's where the rule comes from.) So "one accuracy five damage" is dead.

The invention system opens up new levels of power for new levels of influence. You can go with generic IO's (like SO's, maybe a little better, but they never "go red"), you can "frankenslot" with a mix of cheap IO's and get 30-60% more accuracy/recharge/endurance/whatever, or you can start spending a lot of money on set IO's and practically make an entire new secondary.

It is also very, very complex. I would advise sticking with SO's until you feel like you have a handle on the rest of the game changes.
Tyvm


 

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I didn't see these mentioned as a separate change, since almost everything concentrated on enhancements -

The Fitness power pool is now inherent for all characters. You don't take Hurdle, Health & Stamina as power picks any longer. That opens 3 power picks for you right there.

Also, the Travel powers open earlier - you can take Fly, SuperLeap, Super Speed & Teleport at level 4 (without taking another power in that power pool, but I can see taking Hasten on its own merits).

There were also changes made to many of the Ancillary/Epic power pools, adding a fifth choice and affecting the timing of when to make those choices (they now open at 35, BTW, instead of at 41).

Also research the Blaster "inherent" power Defiance. You can shoot your first 2 Primary and fist Secondary powers when mezzed, and there is a mechanic for escalating damage.

I have to agree with everyone here - forget what you remember & pretend you haven't played before, brcause it's a whole new game compared to 2004.


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yeah the build guide that you are using is WAY out of date atm, and will be even more so once the i24 blaster changes come out

most of the other posters in the thread have already mentioned pretty much everything you need to know to formulate a new build


 

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Originally Posted by Emjack View Post
HI, i found this build that im going to give it a shot, i been out of game since 2004 and i only understand what i remember since back in 2004, here is the guide i found , let me know if i need to correct anything, i got this build from
Olepi's Ice.ice Blaster Guide ( 1 2 )



Archetype: Blaster
Primary Powers - Ranged : Ice Blast
Secondary Powers - Support : Ice Manipulation

01 : Chilblain acc(01)
01 : Ice Blast acc(01) dam(3) dam(3) dam(5) dam(7) dam(9)
02 : Ice Bolt acc(02) dam(5) dam(7) dam(13) dam(15) dam(17)
04 : Frost Breath acc(04) dam(40) dam(40) dam(40) dam(43) dam(45)
06 : Aim recred(06) recred(25) recred(31)
08 : Hasten recred(08) recred(9) recred(11) recred(13) recred(15) recred(17)
10 : Freeze Ray acc(10) hlddur(11) hlddur(33) acc(34) recred(39) hlddur(39)
12 : Hurdle jmp(12)
14 : Super Speed endred(14)
16 : Build Up recred(16) recred(27) recred(31)
18 : Bitter Ice Blast acc(18) dam(19) dam(19) dam(21) dam(21) dam(23)
20 : Health hel(20)
22 : Stamina endrec(22) endrec(23) endrec(25) endrec(27) endrec(29) endrec(31)
24 : Stealth endred(24) defbuf(46) defbuf(46) defbuf(50)
26 : Ice Storm slw(26) slw(34) slw(34)
28 : Bitter Freeze Ray acc(28) hlddur(29) hlddur(33) recred(33) acc(37) hlddur(39)
30 : Ice Patch endred(30)
32 : Shiver acc(32)
35 : Blizzard dam(35) dam(36) dam(36) dam(36) dam(37) dam(37)
38 : Grant Invisibility endred(38)
41 : Body Armor damres(41) damres(42) damres(42) damres(42) damres(43) damres(43)
44 : Cryo Freeze Ray acc(44) acc(45) hlddur(45) hlddur(46)
47 : LRM Missile acc(47) dam(48) dam(48) dam(48) dam(50) dam(50)
49 : Ice Sword acc(49)

-------------------------------------------

01 : Brawl Empty(01)
01 : Sprint jmp(01)
02 : Rest hel(02)
Wow. Old school like the old school.
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NOW i do not understand Enhancement Diversification yet, been doing some reading and still cannot comprehend what it all means, im disable so somethings i just cant understand
ED means that, after certain enhancement values, additional enhancements of that type give progressively less value. Usually the first two SOs worth give almost full enhancement. You've already been given the link to it, and it's fairly straightforward (though getting your mind around it initially is sometimes tough).

The long and short is, taking more than 3 of any type of single-aspect enhancement (like a Single Origin or common IO) is almost a complete waste of a slot.
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so for the build above ill be slotting if i remember what i need from the enhancement stores where i buy im quesing are called origins or so's till lvl 50 then try to figure out this Enhancement Diversification stuff,
Basically, if you want decent accuracy early on, slot lots of accuracy and some endurance reduction. Damage will come in time.

Later on, 1 Acc (2 if you're REALLY fanatical about making sure you hit things). 2-3 damage, and think about some Endurance Reduction and Recharge Reduction.

So, if you're 6-slotting a damage power:

Acc
Acc
Dam
Dam
EndRed
Rech

Nice accurate power (so you don't waste endurance missing) that hits for "okay" damage, uses less endurance and is up more often.

Or

Acc
Dam
Dam
Dam
EndRed
Rech

Power with OK accuracy (you still miss occasionally) that's pretty much maxed for damage enhancement and still uses less endurance and recharges more frequently.


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Anthing wrong with this build above im going to try, i will be replacing hurdle and super jump to hover and fly?? Not sure how much sloting i need to do for fly and hover
One thing to remember, Fitness is now an inherent. So you get Swift, Hurdle, Health and Stamina regardless with a respec. This gives you the ability to take additional powers (even if you don't really slot them) to "round out" your build a bit more.

As for Fly. Fly, by default is pretty much giving you maximum flight speed right out of the gate. So throwing a Fly enhancement in there does almost nothing. It's pretty spiffy as a specialty IO mule though. Like a Knockback reduction or Slow resist from one of the universal travel sets. Or a Stealth IO from the Freebird set so you can fly around invisible.

As for hover, what are you looking for with the power? Are you looking for maximum hover speed? Or maximum defense?

Are you even going to USE Hover? If not, just take Fly. You no longer need Hover or Air Superiority as a prereq.



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Originally Posted by Fulmens View Post
Hey, it's not as painfully slow as it used to be.
I like 'new hover' quite a bit.

fast enough to be useful in combat & a good place to drop a stealth or +recharge IO.


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Originally Posted by Nethergoat View Post
I like 'new hover' quite a bit.

fast enough to be useful in combat & a good place to drop a stealth or +recharge IO.
Hover is great- It takes an LOTG, and it adds to your global defense. I often use Hover in order to hit a defense goal. The speed isn't bad with the right bind- I use 'f' to toggle between fly and hover ('g' toggles on/off afterburner,) so I can fly to a spawn, tap my bind as soon as I arrive, and tap it again to move at high speed to the next one.


 

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I just want to say-
Please download Mid's Hero designer. It will let you do two things-
1. It will let you see all the AT's and powerset combos and let you read about the powers offline, and it will show you things like range, give you damage numbers so you can compare powers, that kind of thing.

2. It will show you easily how enhancment diversification works. See, you can make that Ice blast character in Mid's, and pick your powers and put slots in them. Then you can actually put the enhancments in the slots(use SO's) and it will show you when you get to "ED Cap" by changing colors. First, it will turn green, showing you are getting close to "ED", then yellow, showing you that you are starting to really get the benefits reduced, then it will turn red, which shows you that adding more enhancments of that type will pretty much get you nothing.

Using that tool just to play around with slots and stuff will catch you up pretty fast on how to pick powers and slot them.


As for changes in the game? Ha, wow. I would agree with others, i would make a new lvl 1 character, and join some teams go go have fun. Or solo some missions using the contacts you get. One thing to mention here- street sweeping for XP left the building like 20 issues ago, missions are the way to go now.

Hope that helps.


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Originally Posted by Fulmens View Post
Hey, it's not as painfully slow as it used to be.
No. Not saying it is. Just trying to get clarification if it's being chosen for:

  • Defense
  • Mobility
  • Concept
  • Because someone still thinks it's a prereq.



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Originally Posted by Eldagore View Post
I just want to say-
Please download Mid's Hero designer. It will let you do two things-
1. It will let you see all the AT's and powerset combos and let you read about the powers offline, and it will show you things like range, give you damage numbers so you can compare powers, that kind of thing.

2. It will show you easily how enhancment diversification works. See, you can make that Ice blast character in Mid's, and pick your powers and put slots in them. Then you can actually put the enhancments in the slots(use SO's) and it will show you when you get to "ED Cap" by changing colors. First, it will turn green, showing you are getting close to "ED", then yellow, showing you that you are starting to really get the benefits reduced, then it will turn red, which shows you that adding more enhancments of that type will pretty much get you nothing.

Using that tool just to play around with slots and stuff will catch you up pretty fast on how to pick powers and slot them.


As for changes in the game? Ha, wow. I would agree with others, i would make a new lvl 1 character, and join some teams go go have fun. Or solo some missions using the contacts you get. One thing to mention here- street sweeping for XP left the building like 20 issues ago, missions are the way to go now.

Hope that helps.


ok im beginning to understand the new enhancemet system, by what said as example of the color affect of the ED soft, got some quetions still, in the past i have always looked for builds and i would try the build out and if i like it then i use it because i have no clue when to place my slots, so i making a build i get frustraded because i dont know whn to slot when i level up, example

02 : Ice Bolt acc(02) dam(5) dam(7) dam(13) dam(15) dam(17)*
04 : Frost Breath acc(04) dam(40) dam(40) dam(40) dam(43) dam(45)*

above example how or when do you decide the slots at those levels, that is what i not understanding when trying to make my own build, SO i use mid hero planner pick my skills will mids then auto the amount of slots and when to place my enhancements *in those slots at what levels? *

i know for LEVEL 1, say for ice bolt first slot i put in an acc *then when i hit LEVEL 2 *how many slots will i know i need and what levels do i fill those slots?


 

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Pre SO levels on Blasters I've always had success in having 4 slots in my attack powers 1 Acc/1 Rech/1 End redux/1 Damage.

Something like this:

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.957
http://www.cohplanner.com/

Level 21 Magic Blaster
Primary Power Set: Ice Blast
Secondary Power Set: Ice Manipulation
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Speed

Hero Profile:
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Level 1: Ice Bolt Empty(A), Empty(3), Empty(3), Empty(9)
Level 1: Chilblain Empty(A)
Level 2: Ice Blast Empty(A), Empty(5), Empty(5), Empty(9)
Level 4: Frost Breath Empty(A), Empty(7), Empty(7), Empty(11)
Level 6: Hover Empty(A)
Level 8: Freeze Ray Empty(A), Empty(15), Empty(17), Empty(17)
Level 10: Aim Empty(A)
Level 12: Ice Storm Empty(A), Empty(13), Empty(13), Empty(15)
Level 14: Fly Empty(A)
Level 16: Build Up Empty(A)
Level 18: Bitter Ice Blast Empty(A), Empty(19), Empty(19), Empty(21)
Level 20: Hasten Empty(A)
Level 22: [Empty]
Level 24: [Empty]
Level 26: [Empty]
Level 28: [Empty]
Level 30: [Empty]
Level 32: [Empty]
Level 35: [Empty]
Level 38: [Empty]
Level 41: [Empty]
Level 44: [Empty]
Level 47: [Empty]
Level 49: [Empty]
Level 1: Brawl Empty(A)
Level 1: Defiance
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift Empty(A)
Level 2: Health Empty(A)
Level 2: Hurdle Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina Empty(A), Empty(11), Empty(21)
------------



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ok i see the slots but how do you know when to fill them example of yur build

Level 8: Freeze Ray Empty(A), Empty(15), Empty(17), Empty(17)
Level 10: Aim Empty(A)
Level 12: Ice Storm Empty(A), Empty(13), Empty(13), Empty(15)

k level 8 your showing to slot it at lvl 15 then 17 then 17

BUT your level 12 your showng to slot at lvl 13 then13 then 15

why is lvl 8 have longer to slot ( waitng to till lvl 15-17) than your lvl 12 you slot at lvl 13-15

this is what confusing me is when will i know when i want to fill the slots without messing up the build lol?


 

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Originally Posted by Emjack View Post
ok i see the slots but how do you know when to fill them example of yur build

Level 8: Freeze Ray Empty(A), Empty(15), Empty(17), Empty(17)
Level 10: Aim Empty(A)
Level 12: Ice Storm Empty(A), Empty(13), Empty(13), Empty(15)

k level 8 your showing to slot it at lvl 15 then 17 then 17

BUT your level 12 your showng to slot at lvl 13 then13 then 15

why is lvl 8 have longer to slot ( waitng to till lvl 15-17) than your lvl 12 you slot at lvl 13-15

this is what confusing me is when will i know when i want to fill the slots without messing up the build lol?
Translated into English, what that says is that he took Freeze Ray at level 8, then Aim at level 10, then Ice Storm at level 12. Each of those powers, like every power, has a base initial slot which is labeled (A). It also says at level 13 he put two slots into Ice Storm, and at level 15 he put another slot into Ice Storm and one into Freeze Ray. Then at level 17 he put two more slots into Freeze Ray.

That's what he did in Mids, so if you want to create the same build in the game you would take the powers at the levels shown, and then add slots at the levels shown to those powers. Mids records not just what powers you take and what slots you add, but the exact order you do it in, and Mids forces you to do it in the program the same way the game will unlock and give you power choices. Short of a bug, if you can do it in Mids you can do it in the game, and if you can't do it in the game you can't do it in Mids.

So, if you wanted to make deadboy's build, you would take the powers listed at the levels listed down the left, and at the levels where you get slots instead of powers you would put those slots into the powers shown. Your first two slots at level 3 would go into Ice Bolt. Your next two slots at level 5 would go into Ice Blast. And so on.

In terms of what to put into them, deadboy is suggesting that prior to level 22 when SO enhancements become available, he slots one accuracy, one damage, one endurance reduction, and one recharge TO or DO. My guess would be that the order you would slot them in would be something like accuracy first (accuracy always first), then endurance, then damage, then recharge. The alternative is generally accuracy, damage, endurance, recharge.

Why is deadboy slotting Ice Storm first, before Freeze Ray? Because Ice Storm is a damaging rain power, while Freeze Ray is a hold. He's probably looking to enhance his attacks first.

I should point out that when some people make builds in Mids, they are trying to communicate the end state build, and don't pay close attention to the order in which they do things because they don't intend people to necessarily play the build in the precise order it is created. I don't think this is the case with deadboy's build, but its something to be careful about when you see builds posted on the forums, particularly fully slotted level 50 builds


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ahh ic now and understand, thank you soo much


 

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ahh ic now and understand, thank you soo much

Yes. When talking about builds with people, try to establish if the build is one of the following:

  • Leveling build: Powers and slots taken in an organic, level-up fashion
  • Exemping build: Powers and slots taken in a fashion to wind up with a build whose stats "decay" gracefully as it exemps.
  • Finalized build: A build with powers and slots taken to yield maximum performance at level 50.
It's kind of important. Because some exemping and finalized builds are damn problematic if you try to use them as a template for leveling up on.



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Translated into English, what that says is that he took Freeze Ray at level 8, then Aim at level 10, then Ice Storm at level 12. Each of those powers, like every power, has a base initial slot which is labeled (A). It also says at level 13 he put two slots into Ice Storm, and at level 15 he put another slot into Ice Storm and one into Freeze Ray. Then at level 17 he put two more slots into Freeze Ray.

That's what he did in Mids, so if you want to create the same build in the game you would take the powers at the levels shown, and then add slots at the levels shown to those powers. Mids records not just what powers you take and what slots you add, but the exact order you do it in, and Mids forces you to do it in the program the same way the game will unlock and give you power choices. Short of a bug, if you can do it in Mids you can do it in the game, and if you can't do it in the game you can't do it in Mids.

So, if you wanted to make deadboy's build, you would take the powers listed at the levels listed down the left, and at the levels where you get slots instead of powers you would put those slots into the powers shown. Your first two slots at level 3 would go into Ice Bolt. Your next two slots at level 5 would go into Ice Blast. And so on.

In terms of what to put into them, deadboy is suggesting that prior to level 22 when SO enhancements become available, he slots one accuracy, one damage, one endurance reduction, and one recharge TO or DO. My guess would be that the order you would slot them in would be something like accuracy first (accuracy always first), then endurance, then damage, then recharge. The alternative is generally accuracy, damage, endurance, recharge.

Why is deadboy slotting Ice Storm first, before Freeze Ray? Because Ice Storm is a damaging rain power, while Freeze Ray is a hold. He's probably looking to enhance his attacks first.

I should point out that when some people make builds in Mids, they are trying to communicate the end state build, and don't pay close attention to the order in which they do things because they don't intend people to necessarily play the build in the precise order it is created. I don't think this is the case with deadboy's build, but its something to be careful about when you see builds posted on the forums, particularly fully slotted level 50 builds
My apologies - I didnt have a chance to post a followup post (stupid work gets in the way lol). What Arcanaville eloquently spelled out are my thoughts EXACTLY (eww that's scary - get out of my head ! Arcanaville but big TY!)


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Some other things come to mind. For one, there are not only 5 instead of 4 Ancillary Pool powers to pick from at high levels, but there are Patron Power Pools villainside (and yes you can make villain blasters now, or switch sides). You can also get Ancillary & Patron Powers starting at 35; no need to pick filler powers at 35/38.

So, for example looking at Munitions Mastery you could get Body Armor at 38 instead of Grant Invisibility, take say Surveillance (a debuff power added since you left) at 41, and LRM at 44.


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