Setting it straight for ALL DOMS

Do gotta echo this. Elec/Elec, while capable of some decent numbers, isn't the high damage combo. What this combo does exceptionally well however is sapping! Sure...it may take you a bit longer to put something down...but when said something can basically do little else but stand there like a whack-a-mole that's stuck in the up position...it doesn't really matter all that much (unless its something with ungodly regen...like AV's and GM's...and there are ways around that i'm sure). Stack'em, Sap'em, and Whack'em at your leisure. That's Elec/Elec in a nutshell.

....NNNice.

Originally Posted by Smiling_Joe ::looks at RaikenX's signature:: Something funny.

I wanted to respond in detail, but the highlighted remarks are so preposterous that I don't think having a rational discussion is possible.

"There's villainy ... and then there's supervillainy. The difference is performance."
-Doc_Reverend

Great way to start a counter argument, automatic assumption people need to l2play. You must be in politics.

Agreed. But still. Mezzes shut down Blasters horrible. Some say Blasters need a weakness like mezzes but I say it's kinda strange how this one AT needs such a glaring weakness when every other AT gets some form of defense against it. MM have their pets still attacking+bodyguard. Defenders and corruptors, depending on their powersets can be rather resilient to Mezzes but still, they are support and probably should have this weakness.

To make my point short and sweet, The Blaster being the 'balls to the wall' AT, really shouldn't worry about mezzes. It really interrupts the flow of how a Blaster plays. Blasters should worry about incoming damage.

I dunno. This is simply my opinion and I say in CoH today, where Incarnates run around being as OP as ever.. Blasters really don't scale well in similar situations due to their glaring holes.

Assuming a fully IO'd out Blaster Vs. a fully IO'd out Brute I'd say yeah, it's about even usually. The problem is that the Brute doesn't worry about mezzes. The Brute has much higher mitigation and can have comparible damage. Thats the issue here. Brutes are simply so well rounded that it's hard to say a Blaster is better than a Brute in a situation. Yeah the Blaster can dish out huge sums of damage but the Brute can do comparible damage while having great surviveability on top of it.

Meh, not a problem with the Blaster.. more a problem with the Brute I'd say... Brutes be OP man!

Interesting about the pets heh. Pets are great solo usually but since we're comparing single powers to single powers.... blasters still get Snipe and the archaic Nuke spell (For older sets). And even with the changes I don't see Blasters picking up snipe very often due to it doing similar damage to the T3 blast anyway. I'd rather carry 3 red candies than 3 yellow candies simply so I can quick-snipe on a blaster.

Doms are fine. Doms do High-average damage when compared to the heavy hitters: Brutes, Blasters, Scrappers. And have control on top of it. Quasi Support-Damage role so I say apples to oranges. Also, I hate to break it to you but Elec/Elec is atrocious in comparison to say, Ice/Fire or Fire/Psy or Plant/Fire etc. Electric Assault is terrible in terms of damage due to having The Voltaic Fuzzball.. and Zapp and the hilarious Thunderstrike (seriously.. it take 3.5 seconds to use if you include lag time!).

Doms also get mez protection in Domination which is very possible to make perma.

I dunno. Not trying to destroy your arguement I'm just saying that Blasters do have issues... issues that aren't patched up very well with IOs or Incarnate crap like other ATs. Blasters do excellently in 1-50 stuff... but once you factor in IOs and Incarnate stuff, they start to scale worse... similar to Masterminds

How so? My Fire/NRG has 118% global recharge.
Energy has Crushing Impacts (2x5 = 10%), Decimations (3x6.25 - 18.75), Sting of the Manticore (7.5%) in the snipe...close to 40% (give or take 5-6%) just from my secondary, and that's not counting purple sets in the primary...I'd question any Dom build being unable to slot 3-4 LOTGs (30% recharge), two or three purple sets (30% recharge) and another 30-50% scattered from regular sets and the Dom set at 8.75%.


Dominators don't need a nerf. They aren't overperforming. Psy Shockwave WAS overperforming with its crazy radius and super quick recharge and it got looked at. I'm levelling yet another Dom (Grav/Dark) on Infinity and it is slow slogging, but more from endurance issues than actual damage capacity or anything. Domination rarely ever matters in fights, to be honest, since the mobs are so fragile. I'm really not sure what you can give to Doms to make them more palatable.

Hybrid ATs not for everyone I guess.

If anything, they buffed Dominators specifically because so many people were aiming for perma-domination. It used to be that you had to be perma dom because otherwise you were doing pre-buff defender damage. Now it's nice to have for the mez protection and being able to quickly and reliably hold EB's, but it's not required.

The only call for nerfs I've seen is for Plant Control, due to Seeds of Confusion mimicking Mind Control's T9 power at level 8 and the overall damage being higher than the other sets. Even then, what most people are asking for is the set to be brought in line with other sets numerically, not huge overall nerfs.

I am the OP. I did not say what you are saying.

Originally Posted by Smiling_Joe ::looks at RaikenX's signature:: Something funny.

We know, Commando. What you're missing is that you're being mocked and/or baited.

No one, IMO, is calling for a nerf to all doms. They're saying that one power (Seeds) in one powerset (Plants) is too much, with SOs or IOs, and should be brought in line with the rest. Will it be? Who knows. That's for the Devs to decide, not the players.

But balance issues with a single power does not mean a mandate to nerf all doms, and the only thing that you starting a thread to run around like Chicken Little accomplishes is to make you a target of ridicule. Chill out, let it go, and enjoy your characters.

Yeah, the devs seem to have a pathological aversion to nerfing anything, admittedly not without reason, look at the huge complaint threads we have whenever anything is nerfed. Still I think it's something that in the long run hurts the game more than it helps. I don't mind characters in general being slightly overpowered in PvE (this IS a superhero game after all) but I think they could do more to try and reign in the outliers (*cough* Drain Psyche *cough*).

It's only an outlier if you remember to use it (*guilty as charged*) ... truth is 9 times out of 10 the mob I'm knee deep in is so controlled I don't need it. Bad part about that is, when I do need it, I often times have to search for the button and.... well, that's lead to me generating more Awesome than I should.

But, I admit, when I do remember it, It can be nuts.