When will brutes get spines?


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Seriously, who's with me on this? I love spines but can't stand playing scrappers, I want spines on brutes now. Wah!


 

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Honestly... I want Ice Melee and Ice Armor first... Brutes have enough AoE sets




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Originally Posted by Benchpresser View Post
Honestly... I want Ice Melee and Ice Armor first... Brutes have enough AoE sets
This. Please devs, please let us play that set on an AT that is designed to actually do dmg.


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Eh, I think I'd prefer Spines over Ice. If you want to see Ice on a Damage AT, make it Scrappers. I think they're better better made for making that a damaging set.

I've been wanting 2 damage aura's on a brute for quite a while. And having poison damage has always sounded better than cold to me.

But then again, maybe we should just compromise and demand both sets on the next round of proliferation. Brutes lack a damage set for both Cold and Poison. There should be an option for both damage types.


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If we did get Ice Armor, I would remake my Ice Tank.


 

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Brutes will get spines when Dominators get Illusion.


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Brutes will get spines when Scrappers get Super Strength.


 

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Brutes will get spines when Scrappers get Super Strength.
and stone melee...


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I think the conventional wisdom that SS and stone would be overpowered on scrappers doesn't really apply anymore. At least if the insane damage my Titan Weapons scrapper does with just SOs is any indication...


 

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Im mostly a ranged toon guy...only have 1-2 Brutes and Scrappers.
So Im not hating, just asking...

Would there be that big of a difference playing Spines on a Brute over Scrapper?


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When will brutes get spines?
When they figure out how to not have Quills build fury with each tick.

It's kind of an issue. Secondary powers don't build fury, and all damage auras currently available to brutes are in secondaries. I don't know if they can adjust that on a per power basis, but Quills building fury would be a little broken.

It's similar to how Quills is the only damage aura scrappers get that will land critical hits.

Other than that fairly small technical hurdle, it should just be a matter of time.


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I'd expect them to have quills check for a unit of fury every ten seconds, proc style. Spines' animations aren't so long* that that would make it an uncompetitive fury generator. Actually it would probably be pretty good.

*Barb swipe is not a real attack and should not be used as such.


 

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I want martial arts for Brutes.
Always wanted a martial arts character with Brutes soul mastery.


 

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I would like to see brutes to get ice armor, but the stalker version with icicles instead of chilling embrace. hide, well that could be done as something else, but if it had that on it like a shadow meld idea power instead.


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When they fix spines.


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When they figure out how to not have Quills build fury with each tick.

It's kind of an issue. Secondary powers don't build fury, and all damage auras currently available to brutes are in secondaries. I don't know if they can adjust that on a per power basis, but Quills building fury would be a little broken.

It's similar to how Quills is the only damage aura scrappers get that will land critical hits.

Other than that fairly small technical hurdle, it should just be a matter of time.
Quills wouldn't build Fury. Fury works by checking for the number of attack (non-self-targeting) click power activations each server tick. Damage auras don't build it because they're not click powers, not because they're in the secondary.

It's the exact same event type that builds Domination as well, with the addition of also counting number of times attacked.


 

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Spines needs a little love first I think that set is down right painful to level.



 

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Spines needs a little love first I think that set is down right painful to level.
It is painful enough to watch someone else play spines, its like being stuck in a traffic jam and shouting "Hurry the ** up!" at the Honda Jazz driver in front.


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It is painful enough to watch someone else play spines, its like being stuck in a traffic jam and shouting "Hurry the ** up!" at the Honda Jazz driver in front.
Or the Geo Driver! lol Are those things even on the road anymore? I leveled a Scrapper and a Stalker and let me tell you this...spines on Stalkers back then was PAINFUL lol. There has been a lot of changes to the Stalker AT of course but I guess I couldn't wait that long. After I realized that most mobs shrugged off Throw Spines I rage quit and deleted the toon lol.

I normally don't do that but I was just done. You can imagine how long it took to get to 32 back then a Stalker that no one likes teaming with lol.



 

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I want a Spines/Ice Brute, 3 Auras, Spines Slow/Dmg, Embrace Slow, Ice Dmg.

So a Double Dmg Aura and Double Slow. With the Current Fury easy to build just by yourself i don't see why we cant have a slowing(ice) armor set.


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I would love a slight change to Ice Melee to make it more...well it needs to make more sense. I still would take a direct port though.



 

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Would there be that big of a difference playing Spines on a Brute over Scrapper?

Yeah, Brutes get taunt auras/auto-taunt in their attacks. Spines on a Scrapper has a tendency to scatter mobs since it's so AOE heavy.


 

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I want a Spines/Ice Brute, 3 Auras, Spines Slow/Dmg, Embrace Slow, Ice Dmg.
No Ice damage to be had from Ice Armor. Icicles does lethal damage, unfortunately.


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Ice melee will not get ported as is because it is still pitiful damage. As GREAT as Frozen Aura is now, ice melee still doesnt compare to other sets.

I still think that frost needs to be an AoE.

Ice Sword is still better than Greater Ice Sword, which is sad.

Frozen Fists... if it wasnt for the -resistance and the that it has to be taken...


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Originally Posted by Benchpresser View Post
Honestly... I want Ice Melee and Ice Armor first... Brutes have enough AoE sets
I seem to remember they tested Ice for brutes and decided against it. The slowing effect on enemies was counter productive.