Whip Powerset


-Urchin-

 

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Funny then that the history I've read indicates in big bold letters that whips are animal control and sometimes torture devices. That's not the same as a weapon, and I can find zero examples of anyone in history fighting people in earnest using whips with cursory googling. In fact, to the contrary I find that any whip combat technique is incredibly recent and basically fabricated by nerds who like Indiana Jones. I hate to be the one to tell you this but that isn't going to cut it for a powerset that would cost tens of thousands of dollars to develop and needs to recoup that cost in some way.

Also that was a lie, I don't hate that.
So lets get this straight we can only have sets that came from real world applications?

That means we get rid of bots, DS, and zombie MM, as well as all buff.debuff/control sets. We have to get rid of all blaster secondaries, as well as most of their primaries. Fire melee, ice melee, SS, SM, EM, you are getting rid of a lot of the game, ans sorry your version sucks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chain_whip


Dirges

 

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It'd be more like me asking for a shock collar melee set. Shock collars hurt, right? People use them all the time. Dogs don't mess with you once you've shocked them good! Do you think that would be a reasonable request?


 

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All of the references on that chain whip wikipedia page are youtube links apart from a single book written in 1996.


 

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You actually think that someone didn't think up of a metal whip until 1996? LOL. So we have Toilets and Streets and Paper all made hundreds to thousands of years ago...but chain whips were made in the 90's?

I'm not big on the whip idea either but really pleaserecyle? Are you trying to troll this thread?



 

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I'm simply trying to say that this is not a high priority concept for the devs to work on. Does the universe hinge on me demonstrating that in this thread? It does not. I was bored and I see no reason not to add some legitimate feedback to a thread suggesting a new feature.

In fact, if you guys wanted a better suggestion, how about a nunchucks power set? Those actually are historical weapons and are pretty cool to boot. I doubt they'd get cracking on them too quickly after staff fighting for fear of being considered turtle coddlers, but...


 

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Originally Posted by PleaseRecycle View Post
Funny then that the history I've read indicates in big bold letters that whips are animal control and sometimes torture devices. That's not the same as a weapon, and I can find zero examples of anyone in history fighting people in earnest using whips with cursory googling. In fact, to the contrary I find that any whip combat technique is incredibly recent and basically fabricated by nerds who like Indiana Jones. I hate to be the one to tell you this but that isn't going to cut it for a powerset that would cost tens of thousands of dollars to develop and needs to recoup that cost in some way.

Also that was a lie, I don't hate that.
People that have used whips in movies and stuff that fits the genre,
Indiana Jones, Cat Women, Ghost Rider(chain whip), or even most recently

Whiplash uses and energy whip

No whips have no place in a superhero game none at all LOLS


 

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I think this thread is more for discussing it as a possibility and flirting with the idea of it being a future possibility. Players are going to be crying out for natural based sets for Dominators until the the final server is shutdown.

Also Dominators are not classified as a Hero AT :P There's also Supervillains amongst us! :O and naturally I'm one of them lol.

EDIT: If I had to pic a natural Weapon Based set...hrmm maybe throwing knives...I've never thought it through since I'm more of a Magic person.



 

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All of the references on that chain whip wikipedia page are youtube links apart from a single book written in 1996.
Look at the bottom, it lists has links of other asian whip weapons, and don't forget the flail is a whip based weapon.

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I'm simply trying to say that this is not a high priority concept for the devs to work on. Does the universe hinge on me demonstrating that in this thread? It does not. I was bored and I see no reason not to add some legitimate feedback to a thread suggesting a new feature.

In fact, if you guys wanted a better suggestion, how about a nunchucks power set? Those actually are historical weapons and are pretty cool to boot. I doubt they'd get cracking on them too quickly after staff fighting for fear of being considered turtle coddlers, but...

So you don't support a whip set because you think it is just a torture device, but you support making a farming tool it's own set?

In the end it is the devs choice on what sets they make. I can see them making money off of a whip set. People like Zorro, Indy, catwomen, Ivy (though for other reasons), and the Belmonts. I can also see the set being a fast low damage set focused on aoes and controls.


Dirges

 

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I have to stop and wonder, whips aren't really a weapon, yet shoving my hand at someone and shooting energy at people is considered a viable attack in this game. Man, what are people thinking.


"...well I have wrestled with reality for thirty-five years, Doctor and I am happy to state I finally won out over it." Elwood P Dowd (from the movie Harvey)

 

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Zorro is the first example anyone has brought up that I find convincing, but isn't he more of a rapier man? The whip would be more like one of his secondary powers.


 

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Hrmm Cat Woman used her whip like crazy in the animated series...I'm trying to think of who else...Hrmm spawn and Ghost Rider used their whips a lot.

EDIT: Omg! How could I forget! Wonderwoman has used her lasso like a whip many of times. Hrmm, I'll try to think of some more people. Oh Omega Red...but in a different way.



 

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Zorro is the first example anyone has brought up that I find convincing, but isn't he more of a rapier man? The whip would be more like one of his secondary powers.
We don't need to convince you we've already proved you wrong on so many levels.


 

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Sure you have. What's your estimate on the release date of whip fighting?


 

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Sure you have. What's your estimate on the release date of whip fighting?
Sooner or later, remember the devs once said that staff fighting was going to be too much work for them to do. Shields were too much work and that was why we got willpower. The devs will eventually make any set they want to. Which was the point of this thread. It is about show interest in a new set, not MAKE THIS NOW!!!


Dirges

 

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Sure you have. What's your estimate on the release date of whip fighting?
Keep being obtuse it seems what your best at

also lolol @ your nunchuck idea we already have half a whip set made.


 

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You seem a little angry, friend. Please calm down.


 

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You seem a little angry, friend. Please calm down.
What so someone is angry cause they point out your misinformation? We already have whip attacks in this game so apparently the devs agree with us. It's only a matter of time before it becomes a full powerset you know like how masterminds were the only AT with dual pistols until they released a full dual pistols powerset, ya just like that.


 

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Where did you hear that?
The devs pretty much reiterated this at the Summit. The whip animations involve MASSIVE quantities of development time to get right, and they don't see themselves doing it again any time soon.



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Yall shouldn't forget this guy either as a whip user.


 

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I want whip poweset. A mid-range melee powerset and assault set for dominators.
They should get advantage of those high-price animations and use them for a full powerset, and even for a Praetorian ancillary pool.
I mean, they have half of the animation done, they can just repeat a few of them, make some tweaks and we could have the enery/elemental whip set done.


 

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Yall shouldn't forget this guy either as a whip user.
He's kinda cool...I think I remember him when I was a kid. He has a lot of potential Powers wise. You could make him like a fiery version of gambit...somewhat.



 

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Originally Posted by PleaseRecycle View Post
You seem a little angry, friend. Please calm down.
no u


 

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I want whip poweset. A mid-range melee powerset and assault set for dominators.
They should get advantage of those high-price animations and use them for a full powerset, and even for a Praetorian ancillary pool.
I mean, they have half of the animation done, they can just repeat a few of them, make some tweaks and we could have the enery/elemental whip set done.

/signed - As another previous poster admitted, I too have been waiting for whips to come out since CoV launched. I really, really wish they would complete the set.


@Haiku