Permanent Travel Powers & Combat Jumping

I love Ninja Run, officially the coolest stance and movements I've seen. I literally have it activated at all times, since it fits my characters very well, especially Stalkers, and is definitely more interesting than the default stance. What I don't understand is that why it gets detoggled when Combat Jumping is activated. I see Super Speed has no problem with it, but I don't understand the dilemma with Ninja Run.

I don't think it'd be hard for both of them to be toggled on at the same time, but then again, I'm not sure on the mechanics of the game and whether this would be difficult or not.

So...Yeah...Ninja Run + Combat Jumping, PLEASE!

Ninja run is horrible during fights how do you live with that?

The general consensus is ninja run is horrible cause of its end cost. I personally love having movement/speed when running around during TPN or From cache to cache during LAM and so on. I also never took combat jumping until after I had ninja run. When I saw it detoggled it I never took combat jumping again. Tho apparently its really popular as seen in the what power pools do you take thread. So to each their own i guess.

I love Ninja Run, using it during fights is pretty much the same for me. But I hear what you guys are saying, I never noticed that it drained so much endurance....Hmm....

So the issue is that it takes a lot of endurance, but still....I'd really like it to be toggled on with Combat Jumping on at the same time. I've been using it since level 4 till 50, and have had no problems.

Though I should give it a shot without it for a while....

Ninja Run costs a lot of endurance and doesn't even actually provide a benefit during combat (unless you really like the crouch I guess). I toggle back and forth between NR and CJ as necessary, just as I toggle between Hover and Fly or CJ and Super Jump on other characters.

So than whats the general combination? Just combat jumping and sprint? I feel like I would be behind the pack if I did that. But I'll have to switch to a second build on one of my toons and pick it up to see what all the fuss is about.

I know on my main, even tho its a Dom, I tend to run ahead of the pack. Locking things down by the time the group gets there or run off on my own during Lam and take out weapons/acids solo.

Here's a nice bit of info tho, numina proc and miracle give you .42 end recovery at base 100 End. Ninja run costs .46 end. So pretty much negated right there. Dunno how common those are amongst players but every single one of my toons gets those IO's at some point.

CJ + SS for me more speed more maneouverability

Also I really cannot believe that I'm getting the impression you are justifying running ninja run in combat by slotting heal uniques - I'm just going to pretend I didn't read that

ok, so opened up a third build on a scrapper and took CJ. It was meh. I mean yeah the suppression isnt there so I get that. I can see why people would like that. But sprint+CJ is 20mph less than sprint+NR. I didnt like that. I felt slow, like a granite armor.

I guess I'll have to play around with where I keep my travel toggles at. Cause right now sprint and ninja run go on my top row with my other toggles. Sort of a set and forget row that only gets attention when I eat it and previously when I would sign in.

I'm not sure what I'm going to do for speed with my melees as I detest SS like how a lot of people detest hasten. Checked MIDS and apparently CJ toggles off Super Jump. So I guess there would be suppression there as well? I'm just going to have to learn to be ok with being slow I guess.

So yeah, no supression with combat jumping. so you jump right over to the next critter and I would show up a second later with NJ. Not that big of a diff, but if the next critter is down the street during a LAM I'm going to get to it first (not counting those super speeders). The only thing that bugs me is, again example is during a lam, going to a mob and turning off NJ. Mobs dead, retoggle NJ and run to next mob and than turn off NJ. Rinse and Repeat. Sounds annoying.

It's the 1.88% Defense and the super low endurance cost that makes CJ so good.

And being an LotG +7.5% Recharge mule.

I want this too, got NR activated all time all my characters use it and all my characters builds got CJ.

I mostly play 50s. I dont run it all time with low levels of course.
At 50, endurance its not a issue, usually, specially if u go Incarnate.

i would think would be easy to just copy all the animations over to the character to let you set the default stance to what ever animations you would have available to chose from, this might happen when they do the power pools don't know but they still have not done this for fly so don't know if ever will happen

they should just pair it with a second power that is just the ninja stance with no speed or jumping bonus, but also no end cost and can stack with everything.