Do I miss out if I am not really using Enhancement Converters much?
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Posted on: 2012-04-10 09:07 in Player Questions
If you're happy with your character builds and you didn't need Converters to build them then you're fine. The big thing with Converters will be taking advantage of them in the near-term to make a boatload of Influence on the markets. If crafting or selling things on the market aren't big deals for you then again you won't really need Converters much.
They are simply tools for specific uses - they aren't going to be "required" for anything.
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Yeah you'll be fine if you don't use them much.
I find 'em kinda handy. It's a gamble but it doesn't cost all that much, like turning a Sleep recipe into a Resistance. Can be kinda nice when you get lucky.
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If there was a boat to miss it was before converters came (but we were aware they were coming) so you could buy cheap epic and pvp recipes and then when converters first went live to convert those cheap recipes into uber expensive IO's and eat up all the 1bil-2bil bids on the pvp IOs and all the 600mill-ish bids on expensive purple IO's that remained after the launch. |
Originally Posted by shaggy5
I have seem some of the posts of the Enhancement Converters, and I get that I can get a really shiny one from a really crappy one. I just want to know if someone can give me a simple answer that I will be missing a HUGE boat if I don't jump on and use these like crazy. I have used a couple (mostly purple to purple), but haven't done much. 6 months from now will I be the "poor man" on the block because I just stuck what I had been doing previous to these? How important are they in the scheme of things?
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Prices now have settled into new norms... with pvp unique IO's no longer being so lofty in price and expensive purple IO's dropping to about half what they used to be while the cheapy purple IO's have doubled or even tripled in value in some cases.
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converters are good way to use your merits but in no mean they will make that kind of gap. Actually they are doing reverse enhancements and recipes with too low costs on AE are rising in price while hard to obtain ones are dropping.
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Doesn't cost anything if you only use the ones you get as drops. Create a few enhancements (well, I guess there is the invention costs) that would normally not sell and use the convertors you get as drops to see if you can get lucky. They are going to drop and you really only have 2 choices, use them or wait till you get 9999 of them and they will stop dropping :P. The way I look at it, if I get the recipes as drops and I hold on to a few till I get the salvage I need. It's really a rather cheap gamble. 2 converts in category, you might turn a uncommon into a purple and make a couple hundred mill in the process. Any kind of a damage enhancement is a good choice here.
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Originally Posted by Agent White
...but it doesn't cost all that much, like turning a Sleep recipe into a Resistance. Can be kinda nice when you get lucky.
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You cannot change an uncommon into a purple. You can spend 1 converter to turn one IO into another IO of the same quality but of a random set, or spend 3 converters to turn an IO into a different one within the same set. For example spending 1 can turn a Thunderstrike Acc/Dmg into a Crushing Impact Acc/Dmg/Rch or using 3 can turn a Positron's Blast Dmg/Rng into Positron's Blast Dmg/Rch.|
Originally Posted by Hube02
Doesn't cost anything if you only use the ones you get as drops. Create a few enhancements (well, I guess there is the invention costs) that would normally not sell and use the convertors you get as drops to see if you can get lucky. They are going to drop and you really only have 2 choices, use them or wait till you get 9999 of them and they will stop dropping :P. The way I look at it, if I get the recipes as drops and I hold on to a few till I get the salvage I need. It's really a rather cheap gamble. 2 converts in category, you might turn a uncommon into a purple and make a couple hundred mill in the process. Any kind of a damage enhancement is a good choice here.
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Conversion always stays in the "quality" of enhancement. Uncommon becomes uncommon, rare to rare, purple to purple, with the exception of pvp IO's which are considered their own "quality" so will always be pvp to pvp.
What you can do however is turn an enhancement that isn't so valuable from a set into one that is more valuable. For example... turning a Miracle end/rech into a Miracle +Recovery unique or turning a Celerity runspeed/end into Celerity +Stealth or that Purple Fortunata Hypnosis +Chance for Placate into an Apocalypse Acc/Dmg/Rch
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I've used a grand total of 6 converters (2 in-set rolls) since they went live.
I don't think you're missing anything at all if you don't use them much.
They're basically useful for two things:
1> Turn something you don't want into something you'd slot
2> Turn something cheap into something more valuable to sell for inf.
If you already know how to make enough inf to nicely equip your characters,
you don't need these at all - they're just a convenience item at that point.
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You can change an uncommon into a rare. I am not sure about other grades. I had an uncommon from Efficacy Adapter and selected the "within same enhancement type" (or whatever) and converted it into a rare from Performance Shifter.|
Originally Posted by Kyriani
Conversion always stays in the "quality" of enhancement. Uncommon becomes uncommon, rare to rare, purple to purple, with the exception of pvp IO's which are considered their own "quality" so will always be pvp to pvp.
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To be clear, there are three methods of converting. Within the set (e.g. Miracle end/rech -> Miracle +Recovery); within the rarity (e.g. Cleaving Blow ram/rech -> Steadfast Protection Resistance/+Def); or within the type (e.g. Doctored Wounds Heal/Rech -> Numina's Convalescence +Regen/+Rec).
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Or spend 2 to change it to a different set in the same category. For example, you can convert a level 50 Doctored Wounds into a Numina's Convalescence. |
Originally Posted by Kyriani
You cannot change an uncommon into a purple. You can spend 1 converter to turn one IO into another IO of the same quality but of a random set, or spend 3 converters to turn an IO into a different one within the same set.
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| Conversion always stays in the "quality" of enhancement. Uncommon becomes uncommon, rare to rare, purple to purple, with the exception of pvp IO's which are considered their own "quality" so will always be pvp to pvp. |
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You're right I totally forgot about that option!
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Originally Posted by StarGeek
Or spend 2 to change it to a different set in the same category. For example, you can convert a level 50 Doctored Wounds into a Numina's Convalescence.
Except in the case of the category conversion. An uncommon Doctored Wounds can become a rare Numina's Convalescence and vice versa. There still is no chance of converting to a Purple or PvP. |
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Originally Posted by Kyriani
Conversion always stays in the "quality" of enhancement.
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Originally Posted by StarGeek
Except in the case of the category conversion.
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In-set conversions on sets with multiple rarities can become anything in that set. A yellow GSFC can become an orange one during an in-set conversion, and vice-versa.
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Originally Posted by <span style="color: GoldenRod; font-weight: bold;">Aneko</span>
What about within a set which contains both, like Gaussian's?
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I have seem some of the posts of the Enhancement Converters, and I get that I can get a really shiny one from a really crappy one. I just want to know if someone can give me a simple answer that I will be missing a HUGE boat if I don't jump on and use these like crazy. I have used a couple (mostly purple to purple), but haven't done much. 6 months from now will I be the "poor man" on the block because I just stuck what I had been doing previous to these? How important are they in the scheme of things?
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