Do incarnate shards drop in the new DA?
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Posted on: 2012-03-06 14:26 in Player Questions
I think I read a line in the I22 patch notes which specifically said that Shards do -not- drop in the new DA.
EDIT: double checked this is what the Patch Notes said.
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I can confirm this. When I was doing my thread drop rate testing, I didn't get a single shard.
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Originally Posted by Lothic
I think I read a line in the I22 patch notes which specifically said that Shards do -not- drop in the new DA.
EDIT: double checked this is what the Patch Notes said. You should still be able to use the Astral -> Shard email conversion in Ouroboros. |
The drop rate on threads is -way higher- than shards anyway.
Ok, so... no shards in DA. Kind of a bummer but workable.
Next step, what about common components for upgrading your alpha? I've run a couple of arcs and saw options for the common thread components, but did not see any options listed for picking up the shard crafted components that I would need to be upgrading my alpha. Did I miss something or is this really the case? Seems like a giant gaping hole in a system oriented toward allowing solo incarnate advancement that I can't get those basic components at all.
Can I create thread components and use the 'downgrade' option to create the shard based components? Without knowing the answer I didn't want to test it out and lose a piece I would otherwise use.
You can craft alpha powers using the thread components. Select the power you want to craft, and there should be a scroll bar on the right. Scroll down (or make the window taller) to see the thread recipe.
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Originally Posted by Hopeling
You can craft alpha powers using the thread components. Select the power you want to craft, and there should be a scroll bar on the right. Scroll down (or make the window taller) to see the thread recipe.
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Shards drop anywhere BUT Dark Astoria and Incarnate Trials as long as you've unlocked your Alpha slot and are fighting even-level or higher opponents.
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Originally Posted by Nethergoat
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On trials yes. But it requires 20threads for a common instead of the only 4 shards needed. I streetswept the 54 neighborhood of NewDA with a team of farmers, mine was Tier4'd everything. With a kin we were making them look like lv10s, and in 45mins I seriously got about 3 threads. I could get more solo incarnate progress farming the Cimeroran wall solo for shards. DA might give good ixp for those that still need it, but for any of my toons with all slots unlocked they won't be wasting time in DA.|
Originally Posted by Agent White
The drop rate on threads is -way higher- than shards anyway.
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The arcs give a choice of 10 threads or a random piece of salvage (common to very rare) at the end in addition to threads that drop during the arc. I've already gotten a rare, uncommon, and a common from the arcs.
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Originally Posted by Psychic Guardian
I seriously got about 3 threads. I could get more solo incarnate progress farming the Cimeroran wall solo for shards. DA might give good ixp for those that still need it, but for any of my toons with all slots unlocked they won't be wasting time in DA.
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Most of the rewards in DA are concentrated in the arc/mission bonuses, as I understand it. Street sweeping is pretty lackluster, but that's just business as usual.
I ran through the first three story arcs solo yesterday. Actual play time was about 4 hours, with 2 additional hours reading the stories, crafting, selling, and chatting with SG buddies. In that time I got about 50 threads, 1 common component and 2 uncommon components. I also got the Adamastor Summon, a catalyst and a Purple recipe drop.
Granted, it wasn't as fast as the trials but it wasn't that bad.
Wow... so looking at the actual costs for creating the alpha components, ouch. T3 is 340 threads, T4 would be 1360 threads? Damn... I guess you're just hoping to get lucky with arc components eh? That's pretty harsh. I mean, it's not too harsh for t1 and t2, but getting the actual good abilities I guess is supposed to be reserved for people who want to run trials eh?
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Yes, that's how it's supposed to work. However, for whatever reason (bug), you can get shards during an iTrial while you are in the hospital.
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Originally Posted by Chad Gulzow-Man
Shards drop anywhere BUT Dark Astoria and Incarnate Trials as long as you've unlocked your Alpha slot and are fighting even-level or higher opponents.
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Using three different characters, last night I averaged 8 threads per hour SOLO farming the street mobs. Perhaps the teaming caused the thread distribution to dilute your share. One character entered DA with 30 threads and 4 hours later, exited with 65 threads and an uncommon. |
Originally Posted by Psychic Guardian
I streetswept the 54 neighborhood of NewDA with a team of farmers, mine was Tier4'd everything. With a kin we were making them look like lv10s, and in 45mins I seriously got about 3 threads. I could get more solo incarnate progress farming the Cimeroran wall solo for shards.
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Based on my experience from last night, I think the drops are working as intended.
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It you run even a few iTrials, it really isn't that bad. My latest 50 went from nothing to T4 Alpha in two nights (plus T2 in another slot). That was about two hours of trials per night plus running a Mortimer Kai WST and getting two Notices from that. I converted everything to threads to do it (astrals, emps, notices) and admittedly got lucky and got a VR from one of the trials, but still, it was so much faster using threads over shards.
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Originally Posted by Humility
Wow... so looking at the actual costs for creating the alpha components, ouch. T3 is 340 threads, T4 would be 1360 threads? Damn... I guess you're just hoping to get lucky with arc components eh? That's pretty harsh. I mean, it's not too harsh for t1 and t2, but getting the actual good abilities I guess is supposed to be reserved for people who want to run trials eh?
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Well, building t3s and t4s only from shards is no better. It takes 88 (!!!) shards to make a Notice from scratch. It may seem easier because you're guaranteed a Notice from the WST, but you can also get guaranteed R/VRs from Empyrean merits, and have a chance at them from arc rewards.
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Originally Posted by Humility
Wow... so looking at the actual costs for creating the alpha components, ouch. T3 is 340 threads, T4 would be 1360 threads? Damn... I guess you're just hoping to get lucky with arc components eh? That's pretty harsh. I mean, it's not too harsh for t1 and t2, but getting the actual good abilities I guess is supposed to be reserved for people who want to run trials eh?
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So I could still use some shards and was just curious if they drop in the new DA content. I've gotten a few threads, but I didn't see any way to downgrade threads to shards.