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Originally Posted by Kangstor
With i22 the scrapper ATO will give a set number of bonus which is +%2 for minions and +%4 for others for normal set and +%3 for minions and +%6 for others for purple set.
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...so, it is or is not just for the attack it is slotted into? ...because that did not answer my question.
I appreciate that info though.
EDIT: I assume it is for all attacks, as you mentioned it was calced as a bonus, but the recent post regarding frequency for the bonuses makes it confusing - is the Scrapper crit bonus the only one that is always running and not designed on x per minute like the rest?
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It boosts the crit rate of all your powers that normally can crit. Note that the purple (Superior) version is bugged and offers no bonus at all; this has been fixed already on Beta, and will go live with i22.
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It boosts the crit rate of all your powers that normally can crit. Note that the purple (Superior) version is bugged and offers no bonus at all; this has been fixed already on Beta, and will go live with i22.
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So basically with the normal version, you have a 7% chance to crit against minions, and a 14% chance to hit higher ranks.
With the purple version, you have an 8% chance to crit against minions and a 16% chance to crit against higher ranks.
Is this correct?
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Correct. The base chance for minions is 5% and the base for !minions is 10%. Add the bonuses.
The original bonus was +20% of base for standard (meaning 5%*1.2=6%, 10%*1.2=12%) and +40% of base for purple (5%*1.4=7%, 10%*1.4=14%), but people were constantly posting that they thought scrappers would end up with 25% chance to crit and 45% chance to crit, crazy people. Math is sometimes hard. lol
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I can kind of see the confusion, since crit rate is a % chance and all. Of course at that point common sense should kick in, but lord knows 'common sense' is a misnomer if there ever was one.
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Originally Posted by Aggelakis
The original bonus was +20% of base for standard (meaning 5%*1.2=6%, 10%*1.2=12%) and +40% of base for purple (5%*1.4=7%, 10%*1.4=14%), but people were constantly posting that they thought scrappers would end up with 25% chance to crit and 45% chance to crit, crazy people. Math is sometimes hard. lol
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It's definitely for all attacks. I think the Kheldian one is also "always-on", though what it does depends on what form you're in.
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Originally Posted by JayboH
EDIT: I assume it is for all attacks, as you mentioned it was calced as a bonus, but the recent post regarding frequency for the bonuses makes it confusing - is the Scrapper crit bonus the only one that is always running and not designed on x per minute like the rest?
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Yes, for both Scrapper and Kheld. The Brute one was before it was revised, but it's current incarnation is just a "normal" proc.
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Originally Posted by UberGuy
It's definitely for all attacks. I think the Kheldian one is also "always-on", though what it does depends on what form you're in.
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Honestly the brute one sounds really lame to me - when you run into a mob you hit your upper limits on fury almost immediately as it is.
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Originally Posted by Codewalker
Yes, for both Scrapper and Kheld. The Brute one was before it was revised, but it's current incarnation is just a "normal" proc.
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Wait..the superior proc is currently bugged? On Live? Excellent! Guess it serves me right for assuming that they could manage to get some new, shiny, well advertised and EXPENSIVE (also rare) enhancements to actually WORK. Silly me.
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Honestly the brute one sounds really lame to me - when you run into a mob you hit your upper limits on fury almost immediately as it is.
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With the proc, it's easy to maintain 90-100% fury if you're consistently using your fury-proc attack.
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It'll be fixed in less than a week.
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Wait..the superior proc is currently bugged? On Live? Excellent! Guess it serves me right for assuming that they could manage to get some new, shiny, well advertised and EXPENSIVE (also rare) enhancements to actually WORK. Silly me.
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Yeah they just fixed a problem with it today:
Brute's Fury: +Recharge/+Chance for +Fury - Fixed a bug that granted +Fury per target hit instead of per activation of the power.
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Just cause it will be fixed in less than a week, does not make the fact it WENT live, while broken, any less pathetic. And the sad part, it doesn't shock me. Heaven forbid they make sure things like special procs are working correctly, especially working full stop.
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Are you insinuating that i22 will go live next week?
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Originally Posted by Codewalker
It'll be fixed in less than a week.
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Yeah they just fixed a problem with it today:
Brute's Fury: +Recharge/+Chance for +Fury - Fixed a bug that granted +Fury per target hit instead of per activation of the power. |
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The brute proc now rants less fury IF in an AOE.|
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The Scrapper, Kheldian, and Mastermind ATOs are all globals, the rest are procs.
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Zwillinger is now in Very Soon(TM) mode, I'd say it's a good bet.
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Are you insinuating that i22 will go live next week?
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Definitely bad.
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Originally Posted by Ideon
Wait, is that good or bad?
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I don't think so - I am thinking not next week, but the week after is certainly when it will hit.|
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Zwillinger is now in Very Soon(TM) mode, I'd say it's a good bet.
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Really? My scrapper with the superior proc slotted is showing a crit bonus autopower on Live currently.
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Originally Posted by Roderick
It boosts the crit rate of all your powers that normally can crit. Note that the purple (Superior) version is bugged and offers no bonus at all; this has been fixed already on Beta, and will go live with i22.
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I am still a little confused about how this works - does it raise your crit chance for just the power it is put into - because the description doesn't make it sound like that..?
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