Kheld Grace


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Originally Posted by Microcosm View Post
I see the crummy special IO from the kheld set made it to live... Think it's possible to get changed now?
Dude, we don't even have it bad.

Look at the Mastermind set.

Then look at how many /Recharge bits are in it.

Then remember that no mastermind pets benefit from all that recharge.

Then remember that mastermind pets don't even benefit from the set bonuses.

See? We don't have it that bad.


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I see the crummy special IO from the kheld set made it to live... Think it's possible to get changed now?
Yeah, I was really excited to have an enhancement set named after Khelds, then I checked it out on beta, and balked.

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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison View Post
Dude, we don't even have it bad.

Look at the Mastermind set.

Then look at how many /Recharge bits are in it.

Then remember that no mastermind pets benefit from all that recharge.

Then remember that mastermind pets don't even benefit from the set bonuses.

See? We don't have it that bad.
LoL!

That, in a nutshell, is proof that whoever came up with them had no clue what they were making them FOR.

Just ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by Infernus_Hades View Post
The way you play changes your IO slotting..


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AIB is probably the only person who bought the Kheldian's Grace set, haha. The resistance bonuses killed it for me. I have plenty of resistance on my Kheldian, thanks. The worst part about this set though is probably the fact that it gave the devs an opportunity to make the unique reduce the mag of KB so that it worked as KD for all powers when slotted. I would have had to start playing my Peacebringer again.


 

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I have the complete set at the Superior level. Sure, it could have been designed better, but I prefer it to the Posi set it has replaced. Of course, if we ever get the rumored 3 more enhancement slots then I'll be able to bring that set back.

Good times.


 

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I just realized my Shadow Bolt has nothing but one empty slot, so I figured I might as well go buy the global enhancement for it... My free points came in too so I bought the super pack things and got a Catalyst. I suppose it's the best use for the default slot in a power I don't use.


 

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Actually, now that I look at it a little closer, I think I may be able to work it into one of my builds without losing too much of the bonuses I've already build into it....

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Originally Posted by Infernus_Hades View Post
The way you play changes your IO slotting..


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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison View Post
I just picked up a full copy of this set, and I"m looking to grab a second. It's way better than posi's blast.
Well... Depends on what you're building for. The recharge bonus is only like 2% higher (unless you spend a crapton of money to "hopefully" get the catalyst FIVE TIMES), the acc is lower, and you don't get the nice recovery bonus... So, although I will say the unique enhancement from the set is GREAT, and as a whole it may be marginally better than the Posi set, I wouldn't say it's WAY better...

Now, if you're making it a "superior" set, and you fully plan on utilizing the power you put the set in frequent "exemping," then yeah, it's awesome. But, in upper-level play, it's not a vast difference from Posi--in fact, if you're making a build that requires extra recovery due to many toggles running, it may actually be worse (as a set).

Now, I realize you're speaking from the perspective of a tri-former, so you've got a completely different viewpoint on it (and you're probably mainly referring to the unique form enhancement--which is AWESOME, btw), but...still.

For me to say it's "WAY" better, I'm going to need to make the whole set "superior" first.

"Alien"


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Originally Posted by Infernus_Hades View Post
The way you play changes your IO slotting..


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Originally Posted by AlienOne View Post
Well... Depends on what you're building for. The recharge bonus is only like 2% higher (unless you spend a crapton of money to "hopefully" get the catalyst FIVE TIMES), the acc is lower, and you don't get the nice recovery bonus... So, although I will say the unique enhancement from the set is GREAT, and as a whole it may be marginally better than the Posi set, I wouldn't say it's WAY better...
The recovery bonus. Really? That's what you'd be afraid of losing? 2.5% is nothing.

Let me share my secret. I'm not looking at the set bonuses at all. I noticed that the recharge was higher, but not enough to matter. To me, the set bonuses are a wash.

What I'm looking at are enhancement values, and this set is head and shoulders above Posi's Blast. No needless range enhancement. Plenty of recharge in the set itself.

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For me to say it's "WAY" better, I'm going to need to make the whole set "superior" first.
I find this funny. I actually cannot let the set become superior, because at that point I would lose it's 10% recharge bonus thanks to the law of five. I slotted all six pieces of the set in Nova Detonation and used my catalyst on the unique. I keep the recharge bonus that I slotted Posi's blast for, I get better enhancement values, and I get the empowered Form Empowerment.


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That's funny.... I never used the ranged IO in Posi's Blast... I always 5-slotted it without it--and without it, the damage values were already in the red (not to mention the "chance for" enhancement). Now, sure, the recharge values are better, but if I'm putting the set in Dark Detonation (which is the only viable spot to put it in my build without screwing up other sets that I don't want to lose), I'm gaining...what? One second? Really? That's the "head and shoulders" you're talking about? Have you completely forgotten about ED? I won't even mention ACC, because if you have any sort of well-built WS, you're going to have ACC built-in to it globally--not to mention you have Sunless Mire at your disposal to make every attack nearly 100% guaranteed to hit.

So, what's this "head and shoulders above" you speak of? If it's not the set bonuses, and the enhancement values aren't gaining me a hell of a lot by replacing Posi's Blast.... What? It looks better visually? 1.5% S/L resistance was that big of a deal to you? I'm still finding it very hard to justify saying the set is "way" better than Posi's blast, considering the set values aren't that much better, and the enhancement values don't gain me a whole hell of a lot.

Also, since I don't 5-slot Inky Aspect anymore with Absolute Amazements, I actually would gain the 10% recharge bonus with the superior set--thus, the comment "For me to say it's 'WAY' better, I'm going to need to make the whole set 'superior' first."

Now, the unique? Definitely awesome, and I would recommend any Kheld get it.

"Alien"


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Originally Posted by Infernus_Hades View Post
The way you play changes your IO slotting..


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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison View Post
I just picked up a full copy of this set, and I"m looking to grab a second. It's way better than posi's blast.
Not sure about "way" better but it is not a bad set. Now if I can get 5 catalysts......


 

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I already have a set of 5 for my human form and a set of for my triform exemp build. still waiting on the rest of my build to respec tho


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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison View Post
It's also attuned. More recharge that stays as I exemplar is never bad.
Quite true. I'm using my set in an effort to get permalightform without needing Hasten. Getting close.


 

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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison View Post
It's also attuned. More recharge that stays as I exemplar is never bad.
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Originally Posted by AlienOne View Post
Now, if...you fully plan on utilizing the power you put the set in frequent "exemping," then yeah, it's awesome.
I never said the set is "bad." I'm merely pointing out that projecting that it's "way better" than a comparable set (un-superiorized) might be a slight bit of a stretch.

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Originally Posted by Infernus_Hades View Post
The way you play changes your IO slotting..


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Posi blast is a bad set. It's that simple. I hate using it, there's just not an alternative. Not until now.

Way better is what I'm sticking with. That second matters to me because it shores up the nova chain.


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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison View Post
Posi blast is a bad set. It's that simple. I hate using it, there's just not an alternative. Not until now.

Way better is what I'm sticking with. That second matters to me because it shores up the nova chain.
You are, of course, entitled to your opinion. I'm just bothered by the fact that the person stating it is someone who has written a guide and has huge influence on the Kheldian community in regards to builds made...

For others of us who have made a trillion builds as well, I've seen the usefullness of the Posi set, and can't say it's bad in any shape, form, or fashion. Period.

Well, maybe it's bad because it has a horrible color combination on the enhancements themselves...

"Alien"


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Originally Posted by Infernus_Hades View Post
The way you play changes your IO slotting..


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Positron's Blast is one of those sets that gives you damage on every non-proc IO, and because one of those is damage/range, you wind up with lots of damage and very little accuracy, recharge, or endurance. So I agree with Dechs; I don't like the set because of the enhancement numbers, but there aren't a lot of alternatives for Targeted AoE.



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is there a link where i can see the values?


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