Peacebringers: Is it worth taking the other forms?
For set muels and exampling , yes. And for some AoE with Squid, but that's about it.
I wouldn't bother with the Peacebringer forms anymore. Actually, I'm in the process of rebuilding my tri-former to an all human build. I've put some thought into the subject and can't come up with one decent reason to stay with a form build.
Edit: Something worth mentioning is the fact of the upcoming introduction of ATO's. I believe there will be bonuses associated. IE: human -> resistance | nova -> damage | dwarf -> health. I am still not changing my views on the tri-form Peacebringer just yet though.
Eradication 3 set bonus in Dwarf AoE, 2 Kinetic Combats in Dwarf Melee attacks, and Squid works well for a purple set holder. Thats about it. Also 2 piece tohit S/L def bonus can fit in squid.
It depends on your play style honestly.
I see tri-formers being extremely active and jumpy in combat. Like, dwarf in to sop up alpha, then use mire/flare. Followed by human form for some melee damage, then leaping backwards for some strong Nova AoE.
On my warshade I find that human form is more fun, for the stun-stacking of Emination, Inky, and Unchain.
As a peacebringer, the knockback and awkward attack chains make forms a bit more desirable. (in my opinion)
I wouldn't bother with the Peacebringer forms anymore. Actually, I'm in the process of rebuilding my tri-former to an all human build. I've put some thought into the subject and can't come up with one decent reason to stay with a form build.
Edit: Something worth mentioning is the fact of the upcoming introduction of ATO's. I believe there will be bonuses associated. IE: human -> resistance | nova -> damage | dwarf -> health. I am still not changing my views on the tri-form Peacebringer just yet though. |
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The ATO bonuses will greatly benefit Warshades. If its at least 8% resistances to all, Warshades will be able to have capped resistances with shields + 1 eclipse fairly easily. (May or may not need pvp resistance IO)
However it will do almost nothing for Peacebringers, like always.
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I had been away from my Peacebringer since they fixed some problems. Now I would say start with Human-Nova until you get to Dwarf, then respec to either Nova-Dwarf or Human-Dwarf until you get to level 45 or so, then decide if you want to go Tri-Form. If you go Tri-Form you will not be able to get many of the great benefits from full IO set's 4th, 5th, and 6th, enhancements. If you plan on doing IO's.
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Something worth mentioning is the fact of the upcoming introduction of ATO's. I believe there will be bonuses associated. IE: human -> resistance | nova -> damage | dwarf -> health. I am still not changing my views on the tri-form Peacebringer just yet though.
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The problem with those idiotic bonuses is that human can hard cap resistance already, Nova can already cap its damage on teams and - on Peacebringers - Dwarf+essence boost ALREADY caps health.
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The ATO bonuses will greatly benefit Warshades. If its at least 8% resistances to all, Warshades will be able to have capped resistances with shields + 1 eclipse fairly easily. (May or may not need pvp resistance IO)
However it will do almost nothing for Peacebringers, like always. |
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Resistance: Nova Peacebringer
Damage: Dwarf Peacebringer
Health: Human Peacebringer
Resistance: Human Warshade
Damage: Nova Warshade
Health: Dwarf Warshade
There ... everybody's happy (except the Devs).
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Clearly what needs to happen is for the ATO bonuses to apply differently to Peacebringers and Warshades.
![]() Resistance: Nova Peacebringer Damage: Dwarf Peacebringer Health: Human Peacebringer Resistance: Human Warshade Damage: Nova Warshade Health: Dwarf Warshade There ... everybody's happy (except the Devs). ![]() |
If you can't find a reason to take the forms then don't, because the reason people might take the forms probably isn't for you. People either have enough of an inclination playstyle or an interest in certain attributes to see a reason or they don't.
Straight away with someone like me the Dwarf would be for Tanking, Nova the better form for ranged attacks, human form for blapping/ranged attacks, given your post you're only concerned with damage.
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You mean other than Dwarf? Human Form is weak Blaster/Dead Scrapper. Squid is for dinner. At least you can stomp your foot as a dwarf.
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Human form can easily reach higher survival than a dwarf now by just running some defense toggles. It already had the highest single target chain of the three forms. If you can deal with the kb, solar flare and detonation give human ample aoe damage as well. I have all the forms, personally, but the seafood is just for set bonuses.
If you don't have the recharge for perma-lightform or clarion or enough break free's, you might keep dwarf for the mez protection; if you don't want to deal with the kb of solar flare, you might keep nova for its aoe's.
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You mean other than Dwarf? Human Form is weak Blaster/Dead Scrapper. Squid is for dinner. At least you can stomp your foot as a dwarf.
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As to the OP, it really does depend on how you prefer to play. The forms are particularly beneficial on the way to 50 but, as it stands now, their usefulness drops off in the 50+ environment. This is especially true if you've got the money and know how to get Light Form perma. At that point it's perfectly viable to use the forms simply as mules for IO set bonuses.
But that's not all they're good for. While their hard numeric benefits are largely overshadowed by an IO'd human form PB, the forms still contribute a lot in terms of "soft skills." By that I mean things that can't be measured in percentages (i.e. The ability to hold aggro on a spawn if the Tanker dies/isn't present). If you haven't already, check out my guide: PEACEBRINGERS SUCK!!! It should give you more insight on playing a TriForm PB.
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Thanks, Timeshadow. This is exactly the kinds of things I was wondering about.
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It's worth it for the AoE attacks. Open with Dwarf Stomp, then Human Stomp, then Squid Scatter. AoE as a PB is all about avoiding the knockback mechanics, and the forms help you do that.
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I have a lowbie peacebringer that I somehow forgot about for a couple years and I've started leveling it up. I've already worked out a build where thanks to lightform being permable now, it'll be at the resistance cap all the time and seeing as peacebringers already do decent damage in their human form I've been wondering, is it even worth taking the squid and crab forms on one?
I know the crab form has higher mez protection but, I can't think of any other reason to take either of the forms on a peacebringer now and was hoping to get the thoughts of people more experienced at playing them.