the insp bought at the store! IS AWESOME
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Posted on: 2012-02-02 11:33 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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The most dramatic shift in situation isn't the long-duration insps, which can be helpful, but the arrival of very high damage Lore pets, which reduces the equation from "beat GM regen" to "just stay alive."|
Originally Posted by DumpleBerry
I've been playing this game for almost eight years. I have a lot of level 50s of various ATs, and several have explored the Incarnate system.
There is no way any of them could ever take down a single GM, solo. That was my question, if it could be considered one. And it was rhetorical, in that graystar had already done it before I posted. |
I think the team insps buff pets as well, so the combination of the two opens doors to player characters that traditionally didn't have the tools to solo GMs.
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Like I said, the paladins destroyed my lore pets almost instantaneously and I died shortly afterward. The +Resistance and defense insps might help a great deal in that regard.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
The most dramatic shift in situation isn't the long-duration insps, which can be helpful, but the arrival of very high damage Lore pets, which reduces the equation from "beat GM regen" to "just stay alive."
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Originally Posted by Shubbie
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I looked in the store and couldn't find these. They weren't listed in any of the inspirations categories, at least not for me. Are you all talking about something that's on beta right now? And what exactly are their names? The OP doesn't make any mention of beta, and everyone else seems to be talking like they're on Live too.
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My ill/rad could do this before incarnates existed and my t4 everything MA/shield scrapper can do it now no inspirations for both toons, I don't get it what's the big deal.
I thought this kinda stuff was child's play for Masterminds.
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The trick is doing it against THREE giant monsters at the same time. It's slightly different.
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Originally Posted by Lucky666
My ill/rad could do this before incarnates existed and my t4 everything MA/shield scrapper can do it now no inspirations for both toons, I don't get it what's the big deal.
I thought this kinda stuff was child's play for Masterminds. |
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Originally Posted by Shubbie
Im very good at taking a problem and making it worse.
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Team inspirations are called "imbuements" in this list
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Originally Posted by Captain-Electric
I looked in the store and couldn't find these. They weren't listed in any of the inspirations categories, at least not for me. Are you all talking about something that's on beta right now? And what exactly are their names? The OP doesn't make any mention of beta, and everyone else seems to be talking like they're on Live too.
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Originally Posted by Dispari
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Thanks Aggelakis, but now I'm even more confused. I found those inspirations in the game earlier (they are under the Inspirations - Team category). But here is the in-game description of the Defense Imbuement: "Good Luck Imbuement Team Inspiration (Large) (+25% Defense to Team - Duration : 120 seconds) Quantity : 5"
120 seconds is only 2 minutes. What gives? Is this a typo? Or are the 5 minute inspirations still on the beta server? 
ALL of the imbuements have 120 seconds or "Duration: instant" in their descriptions (I'm in-game right now, alt-tabbing to the forums).
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Three at once is a bit of a challenge. My bots/traps can usually hold the attention of two of them, but if I tried to take on a third, there's a good chance that one of them would get free and start attacking my pets.
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Originally Posted by Zombie Man
I hate to burst your bubble, but Paladin is just a level 10-15 GM... and you're Level 50+3. Yes, I know about the combat scaling of GMs, but still, a low level GM has a lot less resources in other regards (like HP, e.g.).
If you get enough Defense or Resistance or -ToHit or Healing or Regen to survive the attacks, which are easy to survive... then it's just a matter of focusing firepower on taking them out one at a time. Especially since you're Dark Miasma... if you keep them tightly grouped, they're gonna miss a lot. Team Insps can help with that, but many MM builds have ways of doing that without needing them. |
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I know read my post been there done that.
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Originally Posted by DarkSideLeague
The trick is doing it against THREE giant monsters at the same time. It's slightly different.
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Originally Posted by DarkSideLeague
The trick is doing it against THREE giant monsters at the same time. It's slightly different.
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Originally Posted by Lucky666
I know read my post been there done that.
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When you have softcapped defenses and a strong heal (like twilight grasp, which OP had) as well as being an MM, which has been proven to be very strong against hard stationary targets, doing things like this shouldn't be a suprise. That and they're paladins, they don't hit hard and being low level means they have less HP and by extension far less regen.
This is nothing new.
Over on the scrapper forums, didn't someone solo something like 16 AVs simultaneously? I can't recall the specifics, but I know people have solo'd unusual amounts of AVs before. An AV isn't a GM but typically they have more offensive capabilities and less HP.
Your super insps ain't got **** on Demons/Time : SO build one t4 (Interface) and never a single time I've had to use an insp to beat GMs or AVs.
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Originally Posted by Katie V
Three at once is a bit of a challenge. My bots/traps can usually hold the attention of two of them, but if I tried to take on a third, there's a good chance that one of them would get free and start attacking my pets.
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I do it all the time with my Fire/Rad corruptor. 3 paladins, Jack and E, Adamastor, Scrapyard, Babbage, Kraken, Jurassik... |
Originally Posted by DumpleBerry
I've been playing this game for almost eight years. I have a lot of level 50s of various ATs, and several have explored the Incarnate system.
There is no way any of them could ever take down a single GM, solo. That was my question, if it could be considered one. And it was rhetorical, in that graystar had already done it before I posted. |
Like Arcana points out, the tier 4 Lore pets are a huge part of that - some of them couldn't have been done without the Lore pets. Some of them I managed without them, though.
I've never used any of the new store-bought insps.
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The best claim I can make is that during once of the Anniversary events when the Ocho was spawning tons of GM's, my Dark/Elec brute tanked about six or seven Deathsurges without taking more than a scratch. I couldn't do much to hurt them (at least, not fast enough to notice before the rest of the zone descended upon them). And Elec Armor against Deathsurge is kind of cheating. But come on, there were six or seven of them! That's gotta count for something, right? |
Originally Posted by DreadShinobi
didn't someone solo something like 16 AVs simultaneously? I can't recall the specifics, but I know people have solo'd unusual amounts of AVs before.
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The 5 minutes is a recent buff, it's live but they haven't updated the descriptions yet, they also persist through death (although probably not for pets).|
Originally Posted by Captain-Electric
Thanks Aggelakis, but now I'm even more confused. I found those inspirations in the game earlier (they are under the Inspirations - Team category). But here is the in-game description of the Defense Imbuement: "Good Luck Imbuement Team Inspiration (Large) (+25% Defense to Team - Duration : 120 seconds) Quantity : 5"
*image* 120 seconds is only 2 minutes. What gives? Is this a typo? Or are the 5 minute inspirations still on the beta server? ALL of the imbuements have 120 seconds or "Duration: instant" in their descriptions (I'm in-game right now, alt-tabbing to the forums). |
Obviously, the health and endurance ones are still instant.
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Thanks Mazey! Although, I ended up buying five defense imbuements while waiting for a response here (glad the forums were correct |
Originally Posted by Mazey
The 5 minutes is a recent buff, it's live but they haven't updated the descriptions yet, they also persist through death (although probably not for pets).
Obviously, the health and endurance ones are still instant. |
). Paragon Studios, I hope you're reading this because I would have started buying these a couple of weeks ago! You missed out on, like, a lot of money! Like two or three dollars AT LEAST! I'm also getting the impression they stack? Like if I use two at once, the buff lasts ten minutes?
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5 minutes, with twice the power.
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Originally Posted by Captain-Electric
I'm also getting the impression they stack? Like if I use two at once, the buff lasts ten minutes?
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Originally Posted by Shubbie
Im very good at taking a problem and making it worse.
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might try that w/ my Ill/Rad one day can already solo 1 Paladin/Winter Lord w/ light inspiration use