Just to state the obvious..your doing it wrong. If you cant solo a PB at those lvls without dying..you need help.
Lolwut I soloed the SSA when it first came out on my PB when she was on DOs and she's Human only, no Nova and stuff. I killed Lady Winter plenty of times solo with her and can solo with bosses way better than all the blasters I've had (ok only one made it past 32 but my PB is 25 or something like that, only has a miracle slotted besides SOs due to being kinda end hungry). On the TFs I ran with her she was the boss killer, the inherent gave her a great boost to damage due to the team's composition. Also, good AoE.
I did feel the AT was bottom tier before the recent buffs, but I'm pleased with them now (my third attempt, first with no forms).
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Minus the your/you're thing, this guy knows what's up.|
Originally Posted by MisterD
Just to state the obvious..you're doing it wrong. If you cant solo a PB at those lvls without dying..you need help.
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The OP clearly does not.
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Is it April already?
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Originally Posted by AkuTenshiiZero
Peacebringer can't solo +0/x1 No Bosses at level 21 without 2-4 deaths. Who designed this AT!? I have played every AT except for Controllers, Tankers, and other EATs over the course of ~4 years, I have NEVER felt this weak. And what's with this passive? Recharge slow resistance if other EATs are on the team? Is that supposed to punish you for working with EATs because it's certainly doing so!
I take back everything bad I ever said about Stalkers. This...Dear LORD this AT is bad... |
There seems to be no real point to the OP other than complaining about an AT you don't exactly understand. If you want some help, tell us how you play and we can tell you what you're doing wrong :P
It all depends how you are playing with them. They require a certain mindset and finesse to be powerful. A Kheldian is a toolbox, you can't just run in and kill everything like any other AT. You have to think about the tools you have and use them accordingly. The learning curve is steep, but once you get the hang of it it's well worth it.
If you're playing it like "any other AT" you're doing it wrong. Cause at those levels my peacebringer could easily solo +0/x1....without enhancements..
And how is "recharge slow resistance" a punishment? I absolutely hate getting my recharge debuffed by those blasted web grenades, and working with other EATs makes that not work as well :P Sounds like a bonus to me.
Wow, haven't seen a post like this in a while. I VERY much recommend you check out my guide (Linked in my sig). It's designed to help those playing a TriForm PB from level 1 on. Give it a once over and see how you do afterwards.
Wanna play a Peacebringer? Don't believe the hype. Check out my guide and get the real truth:
PEACEBRINGERS SUCK!!! (Now fully up to date for i21+
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Originally Posted by Timeshadow
Wow, haven't seen a post like this in a while. I VERY much recommend you check out my guide (Linked in my sig). It's designed to help those playing a TriForm PB from level 1 on. Give it a once over and see how you do afterwards.
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I can vouch for this guide! It turned me onto triform PB's and helped make my toon what he is today
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Glad people are getting some use out of it. With all the "MFing Warshade!" talk around here it's hard to tell sometimes
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PEACEBRINGERS SUCK!!! (Now fully up to date for i21+
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Originally Posted by Timeshadow
That's...pretty cool
Glad people are getting some use out of it. With all the "MFing Warshade!" talk around here it's hard to tell sometimes |
Regardless of any "strength gap" that will be pointed out.
Given the lack of details, or a response to any of the questions asked, I'd say this is some damn pathetic trolling.
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Originally Posted by Bionut911
Are you using your form abilities? Bright nova, dwarf? Are you human only?
There seems to be no real point to the OP other than complaining about an AT you don't exactly understand. If you want some help, tell us how you play and we can tell you what you're doing wrong :P It all depends how you are playing with them. They require a certain mindset and finesse to be powerful. A Kheldian is a toolbox, you can't just run in and kill everything like any other AT. You have to think about the tools you have and use them accordingly. The learning curve is steep, but once you get the hang of it it's well worth it. If you're playing it like "any other AT" you're doing it wrong. Cause at those levels my peacebringer could easily solo +0/x1....without enhancements.. And how is "recharge slow resistance" a punishment? I absolutely hate getting my recharge debuffed by those blasted web grenades, and working with other EATs makes that not work as well :P Sounds like a bonus to me. |
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Originally Posted by Timeshadow
Wow, haven't seen a post like this in a while. I VERY much recommend you check out my guide (Linked in my sig). It's designed to help those playing a TriForm PB from level 1 on. Give it a once over and see how you do afterwards.
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I can vouch for this guide! It turned me onto triform PB's and helped make my toon what he is today
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Originally Posted by Mister Gerald
Given the lack of details, or a response to any of the questions asked, I'd say this is some damn pathetic trolling.
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Any questions?
"Alien"
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Originally Posted by Infernus_Hades
The way you play changes your IO slotting..
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76 characters and Twenty-four 50s later, I still love this game.
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I'm going to give it a shot. I'd love to like my PB.
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Originally Posted by Timeshadow
Wow, haven't seen a post like this in a while. I VERY much recommend you check out my guide (Linked in my sig). It's designed to help those playing a TriForm PB from level 1 on. Give it a once over and see how you do afterwards.
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total kick to the gut
This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.
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Yes, but "What?" is all I have. I rolled a PB and didn't exactly have the experience he was having-- and that was before I even saw any guides. The OP basically just posted, "Peacebringers suck, lulz" in the Kheldian part of the forums, and I don't really see how me pointing that out makes me the troll, but whatever.
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Originally Posted by AlienOne
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^ Advice ^ Confirmation of good advice The fact that the OP posted that and then didn't clarify when he was asked to brings me to the conclusion that you, sir, are a troll. Any questions? "Alien" |
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Seconding the "You're doing it wrong." IN fact, if that's the issue you're having, you're doing it VERY wrong. As in trying to fly by jumping off a cliff wearing swim fins, a lead suit and cement shoes wrong. |
Originally Posted by AkuTenshiiZero
Peacebringer can't solo +0/x1 No Bosses at level 21 without 2-4 deaths.
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PEBKAC.
Post the build, post what you're doing, go through the guides people have made (there are several good ones.)
Wanted: Origin centric story arcs.
If you've only played an AT once (one set combo) and "hate" it - don't give up. Roll a different combo. It may just be those sets not clicking for you.
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I'm pretty sure Alien was referring to the OP.
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Originally Posted by Mister Gerald
Yes, but "What?" is all I have. I rolled a PB and didn't exactly have the experience he was having-- and that was before I even saw any guides. The OP basically just posted, "Peacebringers suck, lulz" in the Kheldian part of the forums, and I don't really see how me pointing that out makes me the troll, but whatever.
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OP must be thinking 'My job here is done'.
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...And people are also pretty sure grammar is the exclusive domain of pedants, but your interpretation of his response is not at all clear from the way he worded it.
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Originally Posted by Stone Daemon
I'm pretty sure Alien was referring to the OP.
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Yes it was. If Alien was saying something about you he would have quoted your comment :P|
Originally Posted by Mister Gerald
...And people are also pretty sure grammar is the exclusive domain of pedants, but your interpretation of his response is not at all clear from the way he worded it.
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And he did mention the OP, implying he was talking to the Poster of Said OP.
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...And people are also pretty sure grammar is the exclusive domain of pedants, but your interpretation of his response is not at all clear from the way he worded it.
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Yes it was. If Alien was saying something about you he would have quoted your comment :P
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Originally Posted by Stone Daemon
He did quote his comment, but it didn't sound like Alien was really referring to Gerald, given the context of Geralds comment. It was probably just a flubbed wording/quote.
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lol.
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No, here's what I'm thinking Alien meant.|
Originally Posted by Stone Daemon
He did quote his comment, but it didn't sound like Alien was really referring to Gerald, given the context of Geralds comment. It was probably just a flubbed wording/quote.
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"The OP came in here complaining, got help, and didn't need to come back. Only then does he get called a troll. It takes a troll to name a troll, so this guy calling the troll a troll is the only real troll."
That makes total sense to me. Gerald, you were out of the line. That's not to say the OP was not a bit over the top as well. Further, I'm not any better, as you can see my first comment in the thread clearly.
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Yeah, my bad... I shouldn't have used the word "you" without further clarification in a post right after someone I wasn't referring to... I should have said something like "you, OP, are a troll" instead of a "you, sir, are a troll" which could pretty much mean anyone I suppose.
My apologies.
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Dechs, yeah, Gerald's post was very troll-like (admittedly), but I was specifically referring to the fact that some random dude posts in here that "I was playing a Kheldian and they pretty much suck... How do you guys even deal with the suckage?" And, even if he really WAS asking for help, he got it, and didn't even return with any further clarifications (which was asked of him in order to give him further help) or a "thanks, guys, that helped out a lot."
Which, leads me to believe he was just trolling us.
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The way you play changes your IO slotting..
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76 characters and Twenty-four 50s later, I still love this game.
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Okay, I will readily admit that I am a bit of a noob on the forums, as my low post count would indicate. But this "It takes a troll to name a troll" thing-- is this something unique to the forums? I have literally seen the opposite all over the internet, and if calling out trolls is trollish here, then I won't do it here.|
Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
No, here's what I'm thinking Alien meant.
"The OP came in here complaining, got help, and didn't need to come back. Only then does he get called a troll. It takes a troll to name a troll, so this guy calling the troll a troll is the only real troll." That makes total sense to me. Gerald, you were out of the line. That's not to say the OP was not a bit over the top as well. Further, I'm not any better, as you can see my first comment in the thread clearly. |
Edit: never mind, I just saw it in the rules. Carry on.
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Yeah, I personally think it's a bit ridiculous. I call a spade a spade, you know? But apparently, it cuts down on people saying "Quit trolling me" when they are being legitimately debated.
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Originally Posted by Mister Gerald
Okay, I will readily admit that I am a bit of a noob on the forums, as my low post count would indicate. But this "It takes a troll to name a troll" thing-- is this something unique to the forums? I have literally seen the opposite all over the internet, and if calling out trolls is trollish here, then I won't do it here.
Edit: never mind, I just saw it in the rules. Carry on. |
Where to now?
Check out all my guides and fiction pieces on my blog.
The MFing Warshade | The Last Rule of Tanking | The Got Dam Mastermind
Everything Dark Armor | The Softcap
don'T attempt to read tHis mEssaGe, And believe Me, it is not a codE.
Peacebringer can't solo +0/x1 No Bosses at level 21 without 2-4 deaths. Who designed this AT!? I have played every AT except for Controllers, Tankers, and other EATs over the course of ~4 years, I have NEVER felt this weak. And what's with this passive? Recharge slow resistance if other EATs are on the team? Is that supposed to punish you for working with EATs because it's certainly doing so!
I take back everything bad I ever said about Stalkers. This...Dear LORD this AT is bad...
The off-beat space pirate...Capt. Stormrider (50+3 Elec/Storm Science Corruptor)
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The psychotic inventor...Dollmaster (50 Bot/FF Tech Mastermind)
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