First Ward: The Vortex?
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bpphantom,
Posted on: 2012-01-03 15:53 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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Diabolique explicitly says that the Vortex is a portal into 'this' (Praetorian Earth's) spirit world, much like how the fairy circles in Croatoa lead to Primal Earth's spirit world. She may be nuts, but she's not smoking anything. You can even see the same yellow-gold haze associated with CoH's interpretation of those places when you see through the Apparition's memory as you do in Croatoa.
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Originally Posted by Zombieluvr
The biggest issue, though- What the heck is the Vortex? No one seems to know. The closest we come to finding out is a line Diabolique lets slip that it connects First Ward/Praetoria to its spirit world mirror (Primal Earth?). Of course, she seems to indicate that the Apparitions came through the Vortex, but almost immediately after that we learn their origins are distinctly Praetorian, so she may be smoking something.
Was hoping rerunning FW's arcs would clarify that for me, but it doesn't appear I missed anything on the first run through. I'm wondering if it will connect with Dark Astoria and Diabolique's role in that zone's revamp? |
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Okay, that makes sense. When she referred to the world mirroring Praetoria, I was naturally inclined to think of Primal Earth (the mirror universe) rather than the more literal interpretation of her term "spirit world".
I'd still like to learn why the Vortex suddenly appeared (is it something to do with Serene and the Talons of Vengeance?) and what its apparent relationship is with the Apparitions. But your explanation clears things up. 
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From what I can tell, Serene poked a hole between planes to get to the Apparitions to not only unleash them on First Ward and start making people miserable, but also to use them to bind Diabolique, who she would sacrifice so she could bind the Furies to her will.|
Originally Posted by Zombieluvr
Okay, that makes sense. When she referred to the world mirroring Praetoria, I was naturally inclined to think of Primal Earth (the mirror universe) rather than the more literal interpretation of her term "spirit world".
I'd still like to learn why the Vortex suddenly appeared (is it something to do with Serene and the Talons of Vengeance?) and what its apparent relationship is with the Apparitions. But your explanation clears things up. |
EDIT: Although, I'm not really sure on that part where Serene just lets them loose on the citizens for whatever reason. Really, Serene just seems to hate everyone's guts.
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Talk to Prometheus about the Talons of Vengeance. Just sayin'.
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Wait, really?
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Originally Posted by GuyPerfect
Talk to Prometheus about the Talons of Vengeance. Just sayin'.
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Really. It's part of the "I have earned the right to know more about the Well" dialog chain. I'm not sure exactly what the criteria are before you can ask him that, though.
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Interesting, I've been wondering that myself. Having run FW through with my namesake now, I'll have to have another chat with him. Thanks for the head's up!
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Originally Posted by Hopeling
Really. It's part of the "I have earned the right to know more about the Well" dialog chain. I'm not sure exactly what the criteria are before you can ask him that, though.
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I couldn't agree more.
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Complete the most recent iTrial.
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Originally Posted by Hopeling
Really. It's part of the "I have earned the right to know more about the Well" dialog chain. I'm not sure exactly what the criteria are before you can ask him that, though.
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A character who's never done any trials but a single BAF had that dialog option, so I'm not sure that's how.
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I was under the impression that you had to complete ANY incarnate trial.
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Originally Posted by Hopeling
A character who's never done any trials but a single BAF had that dialog option, so I'm not sure that's how.
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OK, that seems to be the case - a character with an empty alpha slot doesn't have the dialog, nor a character with a t3 alpha power who's never done trials. The aforementioned character who's done a single BAF (and also has just a t3 alpha) does have the option.
I really hope there's more First Ward stuff coming down the pike, for a lot of reasons (so much to follow up on, and we've still got two sections of the FW that aren't really used currently- the Crags and the Asylum). A lot of loose ends that need tying up (Mother's apparently holding the Palatine's father in her asylum, despite the fact everyone seems to think she's dead and his apparition showed up in the first arc; etc.) Plus, I just love FW myself.
The biggest issue, though- What the heck is the Vortex? No one seems to know. The closest we come to finding out is a line Diabolique lets slip that it connects First Ward/Praetoria to its spirit world mirror (Primal Earth?). Of course, she seems to indicate that the Apparitions came through the Vortex, but almost immediately after that we learn their origins are distinctly Praetorian, so she may be smoking something.
Was hoping rerunning FW's arcs would clarify that for me, but it doesn't appear I missed anything on the first run through.
I'm wondering if it will connect with Dark Astoria and Diabolique's role in that zone's revamp?