Easiest way to get L30 recipes?
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Catwhoorg,
Posted on: 2011-12-18 12:54 in The Market and Inventions
The easiest answer is to marketeer and earn enough inf to buy what ever you want when ever you want.
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http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=267375
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Originally Posted by Robotech_Master
I know some people do a lot of Architect farming and keep their characters locked at level 30 and do a lot of random rolls on the AE reward tables to get level 30 recipes they can craft for use or sale. If I were to make such a character, what would the best character class and power sets for such a character be?
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The nerf to ambushes and inability to use a ton of insps before you enter really hurt the lowbie CEBR farming. I have one locked at 33, kinda sad now.
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That still doesn't make level 30 IO's or recipes magically appear from nowhere, but it does make them easier to afford when they do come along. It just takes a little patience to wait until they DO appear, and then it comes down to having more influence than the other people who want the same things.|
Originally Posted by Miladys_Knight
The easiest answer is to marketeer and earn enough inf to buy what ever you want when ever you want.
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Originally Posted by Kioshi
The nerf to ambushes and inability to use a ton of insps before you enter really hurt the lowbie CEBR farming. I have one locked at 33, kinda sad now.
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That seems more like cause and effect, but it's all a moot point now.
"But it wasn't anything some purples and oranges and lots of screaming in fear couldn't handle." -- Werner
30 level 50's: 12 scrappers, 7 other random melee types, 11 blaster/blapper/support squishies, two accounts, and a TON of altitis since 4/28/04
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Well obviously it was the lowbie farming that caused it, especially the ambush thing since it didn't hurt the 50s farming 54s much.|
Originally Posted by Eldorado
That still doesn't make level 30 IO's or recipes magically appear from nowhere, but it does make them easier to afford when they do come along. It just takes a little patience to wait until they DO appear, and then it comes down to having more influence than the other people who want the same things.
Or else perhaps the huge wave of lowbie CEBR farming led to the AE ambush nerf and the changes to using a ton of inspirations before entering an AE mission? That seems more like cause and effect, but it's all a moot point now. |
I was simply telling that the method the above poster recommended is not that good anymore, not speclating on the cause since everybody knows lol.
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I've tried to marketeer, and though I pick up a few million Inf here and there, I never can seem to hit the big money. Maybe I don't have the patience for it. It seems like all the people who can marketeer have pushed the prices on everything so high I can't afford it. Just buying five Luck of the Gambler Defense IOs could clean me out, and leave me nothing for the rest of the sets. :/|
Originally Posted by Miladys_Knight
The easiest answer is to marketeer and earn enough inf to buy what ever you want when ever you want.
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And that doesn't help with all the recipes that have 0 for sale.
CEBR is still a decent way to farm and it is still probably one of the best ways to get < 50 recipes.
And Robotech_Master most of marketeering IS patience.
Let's say that you decide to start farming with a level 30 toon. You run AE content until you are full of tickets. Then you roll bronze at level 30-34. If you know what is junk and what isn't you can roll about 1/3 of your tickets and delete the stuff that is utter garbage as you roll.
Then you craft and store anything that you need for your build BUT all the high value stuff that you don't need for your build you craft and SELL.
While your market slots are full run a couple of task forces. When the TFs are over pick up any profit that you got at the market and either put a bid up for a recipe that you need OR use the cash to convert some of your reward merits into an A merit (I find it takes far less time to convert reward merits than it does to run tips).
You can use the A merits to create the Pool C recipes that you can't find/afford on the market.
-Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. - Albert Einstein.
-I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use. - Galileo Galilei
-When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty. - Thomas Jefferson
CEBR = Claws/Electric BRute? Or Claws/Electric Brute R???
How's this better than fire farming?
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You're doing it wrong. I know, that's not constructive criticism. I'm going to split this into two parts. One where I talk about marketeering, and one where I talk about how to make your inf primarily by playing the game. | I've tried to marketeer, and though I pick up a few million Inf here and there, I never can seem to hit the big money. Maybe I don't have the patience for it. It seems like all the people who can marketeer have pushed the prices on everything so high I can't afford it. Just buying five Luck of the Gambler Defense IOs could clean me out, and leave me nothing for the rest of the sets. :/ |
MARKETEERING:
Here's a couple of well-crafted explanations of how to buy, craft, and sell for more.
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=222969
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=210614
There's almost no difference between "buying a recipe for a million, crafting and selling for three to five million" and "buying a recipe for ten million, crafting, and selling for 20 to 25 million."
The top 3 mistakes (I would guess) people make:
1) Not letting things sit. Make your bids before logging out, check em when you log in. If it doesn't look like something's going to sell, wait till next Tuesday before relisting it.
2) Picking a slow mover. I only marketeer in top level (and occasionally bottom level) recipes because those move five or ten or twenty times faster than any other level. You've seen how slow L30 stuff is to show up.
3) OVERPRICING YOUR STUFF. If I want to sell something for 20 million, and the last five all sold for 20 million, I list at, like, 16,000,908 . Higher than 15 million. But WAY lower than 20 million. If you have the same thing for sale, and you see the last five selling for 20 million, and you list at 20 million or even 19,999,999: You will never sell your stuff because I'm in your niche undercutting your prices. Bid a little high, sell a little low, pick something with a respectable profit margin even if someone guesses your exact price.
I'll leave you with a thought: I can often find something selling for 10 million, that costs me 2.5 million to make and sell (counting wentfees), and I can move a HUNDRED of those. That's 750 million profit. Yeah, I need to log in five times and make twenty at a time, but still. . . "I can't afford to play in the expensive niches" goes away fast if you are good at the cheap niches.
IF YOU HATE MARKETEERING:
That's fair. You can still get rich.
Instead of using one Alignment Merit to buy one, I don't know, Luck of the Gambler Defense at level 30: Use it to buy one Kinetic Combat Dam/Rech at level 35. This will sell instantly at 50-80 million. More if you have a little patience, probably, and more if you craft it, definitely. Other popular sellers are Kinetic Combat Dam/End at 35 [1 merit], and a lot of 2-merit recipes: the Miracle and Luck of the Gambler: global recharge at minimum level. Celerity: Stealth at minimum level. Kin Combat: Dam/End/Rech at max level. Do your research, find out what's hot, and make that. If you're getting your Alignment Merits by doing ITFs or similar, you may get a nice purple on the way and accidentally make another hundred million.
You can be rich! You!
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Oh, CEBR is Claws/Elec Brutes Rule. TopDoc was going into a level 2 mission with a faceful of red insps and one-shotting ten bosses at a time with Spin.
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I get IOs at the same level you do, so I finally broke down and created a Fire/Fire brute and level-locked her at 31 (to get the extra three slots). I don't really care if it takes two minutes or five minutes to cap my tickets, so pretty much any fire farm will do, including ones that don't have patrols or ambushes or rezzers or a buffing ally or anything remotely exploitative. Any mission where you don't waste time looking for mobs which you can terminate at will suffices.|
Originally Posted by Robotech_Master
I know some people do a lot of Architect farming and keep their characters locked at level 30 and do a lot of random rolls on the AE reward tables to get level 30 recipes they can craft for use or sale. If I were to make such a character, what would the best character class and power sets for such a character be?
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With a Fire/Fire brute you will always be able to create an AE mission with fire-using custom mobs, or even standard mobs. You will basically be replicating the dev-created demon-infested Infernal mission that was once a favorite for farming. Since you're not doing anything the devs hadn't already done eight years ago, which players have been using ever since without sanction, it's unlikely they will nerf this.
You need to use purple and red inspirations liberally, but you wind up defeating mobs so quickly that they're constantly restocked. I've got one level 30 Fire/Fire brute on an account that will soon lapse into Premium status that has no enhancements at all and can run these fire farms purely on Fury and inspirations at +0/x8. It can be touch and go at times, but debt is irrelevant when you're level locked.
You still wind up with lots of recipes that you simply delete, but over the course of a couple dozen runs you'll get most of what you need for an entire stable of characters, plus enough stuff to sell on the market to buy whatever else you need. If you create your own base you can also earn enough prestige to buy enhancement tables to hoard all your loot. Combine that with running tips and SSA arcs and you'll have enough alignment merits to get whatever you want without feeling that you're at the mercy of ebil marketeers.
There's nothing wrong with playing the market, but at some point someone has to bite the bullet and provide a supply. Without supply there is nothing to buy no matter how much influence you have.
One last thing. If you want to farm out the supplying part, run a couple Lady Greys on Freedom. Invading Aliens drop level 30 stuff.
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I had the same problem. But then I just made low bids on recipes using toons I don't play very often. Then I check after a week or two. I actually have an overflow of some things. send me your global over PM and I'll be happy to send you one or two Oblits., Kin Combat, or Posi blasts. Good luck!
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I'm going to go make a bunch of L30 recipes. I'm leeeching someone up in AE as we speak, to make recipes, to sell on the market. I give and give. Both.
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So you're giving him recipes or just making them available to him?
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Originally Posted by Fulmens
I'm going to go make a bunch of L30 recipes. I'm leeeching someone up in AE as we speak, to make recipes, to sell on the market. I give and give. Both.
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Triumph Lurker: mintmiki 50 emp/archer
basically, if you see a miki on Triumph, it's probably cute and it's probably me.
Huge thanks to cuppamanga and all the folks in the mac help forum for prolonging my borrowed time on this game.
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I think he's putting them on the market.
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Originally Posted by mintmiki
So you're giving him recipes or just making them available to him?
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79 bronze rolls. 52 "Worth keeping" (there weren't eight on the market, selling for half a million). 37 crafted and the rest waiting for room and time. So far, two sold for a total of just over 10 million inf. Several of those are the only crafted IO on the market at that level, and all are very fairly priced.
Go wild.
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whats the ae number to the claws/elec mission
Scrappers: (50) BS/SD,(50) Spines/INV, Controllers: (50) Fire/Kin (50) Fire/Storm, Tankers: (50) Stone/SS (50) Stone/DB (50)Stone/Elec (50) Ice/Stone (50) Fire/KM (50) Elec/SS +3, Blaster: (50) Ar/Devices, Brutes: (50) Claws/WP +2 (50) Elec/SD +3 (50) Claws/FA +1 (50) SS/WP/MU +3(50) SS/FA/Soul +3, (50) Elec/TW +2, (50) Warshade, (50) Plant/Dark Perma Dom+3
Read the CEBR thread linked near the top of this this thread before you try CEBR type farming. You need to know what you're doing or you'll just die. And my arc is not the best these days as it's only a single mission. Look for a 5 mission arc where you fight level 2 mobs when set to +1/x8; there are probably a few copycat arcs. But CEBR farming still works. It's slower than it used to be for self-PLing, but still plenty fast for ticket farming.
Goodbye and thanks for all the fish.
I've moved on to Diablo 3, TopDoc-1304
If its specifically lvl 30 ones you want note that that is the level that will drop from Rikti raids/Zombie Invasions/Apocalypse
Mind of Gaia lvl 50 Defiant's first Mind/Storm 'troller.
Deadly Doc 50 Dark/Dark Corr
and lots more on Pinnacle,Union and Defiant
its small fry compared to others, but when I run my 'weekly' SSA, I run the level 30 one. Adds a few recipes to the market here and there.
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About 15 sold overnight. Rawk! (Ok, it's not BIG inf especially for 8 hours of play, but I'm helpy.)
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Hey,
I am as likely to level-lock a character as I am to suddenly start speaking Sumerian. Are there many/any feasible options for a L50 to generate such recipes?
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You can buy specific recipes of whatever level you like with reward, Astral, or alignment merits, but the cheaper random rolls only happen at your character's current level. |
Originally Posted by Gatecrasher
Hey,
I am as likely to level-lock a character as I am to suddenly start speaking Sumerian. Are there many/any feasible options for a L50 to generate such recipes? |
Apparently the CEBR method will get a character to level 30 very rapidly, so it's not as if level locking it will represent that much of a sacrifice. I can't wait for the weekend so I have the time to try it out.
You can generate L30 recipes (pool A anyway) by beating large numbers of Rikti or zombies during an invasion.
You can probably generate L30 pool B's by doing a lot of missions on... is there a TF that level locks at 30? Citadel? Or is that 29? And you can set that to +0/x1 and get a lot of pool A's in the process as well.
Pool C's, well, those you have to hope someone like me gets inspired.
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@Boltcutter in game.
I'm trying to slot out some characters with L30 IOs (my preferred slotting for keeping exemplar effectiveness while still being reasonably effective in themselves) and finding it hard going in some cases. Many of the ones I want don't show up very often on the market, or when they do they're priced too high for me to be able to afford them all with the Inf I have. My alternatives are buying them with Astral, Reward, or Alignment merits, all of which seems to take a lot of work (especially given the quantity of recipes I end up needing). Is there some easier way of doing this?
I know some people do a lot of Architect farming and keep their characters locked at level 30 and do a lot of random rolls on the AE reward tables to get level 30 recipes they can craft for use or sale. If I were to make such a character, what would the best character class and power sets for such a character be?