What is a good Toon ( non Scrapper/Stalker) that plays well on just SO's ?


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I have a free account that I want to use to start playing on. I have built so many IO toons Ill be honesty I really dont have an idea what would play well on just SO's.

Any advice.


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All of them actually.


Every AT can play perfectly well using just the old school SO's. You don't get some of the big bang and flash that you do from IO sets, but you still get a solid character that can get the job done.


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This game, and every AT except the Arachnos ones, existed for years before IOs were ever introduced. Supposedly the high-level game (with the possible exception of Incarnate content, which won't be an issue on a free account anyway) is still balanced around SOs to this day.

Anything will do just fine. Not "I solo AVs" fine or "I run all my missions on +4/x8" fine, but "perfectly good and capable of doing pretty much all content, especially as part of a team" fine.


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A great alternative to a scrapper is a brute. Better defenses than a scrapper, better dps than a tank. A great compromise between the two, IMO. Good survivability and good damage output. My favorite solo AT used to be scrapper, but now that brutes can play blueside from the very start, I've switched to them as my go-to- solo AT instead.

And when you say SOs, I presume you also mean lvl 30 generic IOs, which have roughly the same enhancement bonuses as SO+, but never need to be replaced.


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Originally Posted by Wing_Leader View Post
And when you say SOs, I presume you also mean lvl 30 generic IOs, which have roughly the same enhancement bonuses as SO+, but never need to be replaced.
The OP said he has a free account, F2P acounts can not use IOs. He literally meant SOs.



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Originally Posted by Wing_Leader View Post
And when you say SOs, I presume you also mean lvl 30 generic IOs, which have roughly the same enhancement bonuses as SO+, but never need to be replaced.

But a free account can't even use those.

My preference is for defenders and controllers but a brute is a good choice I'd say perhaps a DB/ WP Brute will be a bit of a killing machine.


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brute ss/willpower. nice smooth ride. even on SOs


 

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Both my Energy Blast/Electricity Manipulation Blaster and my Katana/Willpower brute stack up quite nicely at 50 on SOs.


 

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I am playing a kin/son def with only a few IO set bonuses.
I highly suspect that it would do well with only SOs.

It provides it's own +rech and it's own +dam as well as -dam for enemies. Additionally, it brings well appreciated buffs and debuffs to teams--even teams which are already monsters.


 

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The obvious answer to me is Mastermind, but that would involve paying the unlock fee on a free account.


 

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I am playing a kin/son def with only a few IO set bonuses.
I highly suspect that it would do well with only SOs.
I second the kin/sonic, or kin/anything defender, many of the kin powers don't take set IOs anyway or if they do don't benefit much from them (e.g. Speed Boost). Another strong possibility is rad/ defender, while its nice to IO up for perma Accelerate Metabolism they still bring 80% of their capability to the team just on SOs. Corruptors would probably do well too, though weaker buff/debuffs might be felt more on SOs.

And defenders/corruptors are popular enough for teams that you would probably not find many people turning up their noses at them for not being IOed out.


 

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Either the ss/wp brute or the kin fender or corr. As noted, most anything CAN work, but certain things are going to work really well even without help.



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Super Reflexes/Martial Arts Tanker. With Weave you will easily softcap all of your defenses very early in the game, I think mine is at level 28 or so and has 45%+ defense to all positionals.


 

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Super Reflexes/Martial Arts Tanker. With Weave you will easily softcap all of your defenses very early in the game, I think mine is at level 28 or so and has 45%+ defense to all positionals.
Actually, Super Reflexes/Anything Tanker.

SR doesn't need the defense boost from Storm Kick to soft-cap on SOs. Combat Jumping and Weave will do it.


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Actually, Super Reflexes/Anything Tanker.

SR doesn't need the defense boost from Storm Kick to soft-cap on SOs. Combat Jumping and Weave will do it.
Yeah, I included MA more for the tolerable end costs. SR is pretty darned good for tanks, especially if you take the medicine pool.


 

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An illusion/rad controller can also do quite well on SO's alone


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Anything works good with only SO's. Since I am very slow in adding IO's and sets the most of my 50's are still on SO's (I even forget KB protection the most of the times).
Any AT work ok on just SO's so don't worry whatever you choose.


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Well, keep in mind that you can still use "special enhancements" - Hydra/Titan/Hamidon enhancements, synthetic or otherwise. My main character is *still* full up on HOs in her main build and uses generic IOs for the remainder (which used to be SOs), and the difference between the SOs and IOs is pretty minimal.

She does use the defense -KB in Maneuvers and would be loath to lose that, but that's available on the Paragon Market for only a buck-fitty so would be easy to get back if I wanted to spend points.


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I love elec armor on a tanker and it pretty much goes with anything. The only thing that gave me any problems were Vahzilok, and Vanguard.. with the vanguard just pop power surge and you'll have your toxic resistances. Its a good trial/TF set especially in the lower levels do to the huge resistance to elec damage and solid resistances otherwise and no matter what sort of team you add Elec armor will just get better and better.