Are there any Dev plans for changing Burn?

I just returned from a long break but I was excited to hear the news of Burn being fixed. However Scrappers do not have a Taunt so when using Burn it still causes mobs to flee which is an annoyance , especially on a team, and a lost of damage since one cannot practically use any subsequent AOE attacks after using the power.

Have there been any mention by the Devs to address this issue by changing Scrapper Burn or replacing the power with another attack or do they feel Burn is fine the way it is on Scrappers?

Thanks

Hi there, welcome back.

Not to be nitpicky, but a few scrapper secondaries actually do have a taunt effect, such as Shield Defense, Invulnerability and Willpower (though WP has a very weak one.) If I'm not mistaken, they should function the same as brute or tanker auras for holding mobs in a burn patch (with the scrapper AT threat multiplier used instead.)

I share your frustration, though. I have a spines/fire scrapper and a dark melee/fire aura brute and it really displaces mobs for follow-up AOEs on the scrapper.

That's one of the reasons /Fire is not very popular on scrappers while everyone and their mother has a /Fire Brute (including me). Burn is awesome on a Brute even as a ST attack.

There's been no mention about changing Burn, and as with all scrapper secondaries with damage auras, they'll probably never get a taunt added.

Now would be a good time to ask the devs to make a DMG + Taunt Proc for Interface!

As if Brutes didn't have enough advantages over Scrappers, chasing enemies all over the maps basically takes all scrappers except for Shield, Invuln, and WP out of play for me. Remember when people were concerned that Brutes would marginalize Scrappers when the sides were consolidated? That's basically what happened for me. Other than Shield, which is better on scrappers, I just make all my scrappers Brutes now. The small advantage scrappers have in damage just doesn't compare to large boost to survival Brutes have.

But hey, I could overlook the small statistical advantages I see with non-Shield Brutes. They are fairly small and you have to be able to work with the Brute Fury mechanic. It's the utter frustration of enemies running everywhere that kills scrappers for me.

That's kind of where I feel like I am right now too, Moonlighter. My main and first to 50 was a scrapper, and I've always loved the AT. Unfortunately, I've gotten to the point where every time I try to roll another one, I end up comparing them in Mids and convincing myself I'm better off just rolling a brute.

The 'scrappers can just jump in' argument doesn't hold a lot of weight for me because I find that the pace I play my brutes at pretty much makes fury dropping off a non-issue.

Me too, especially with fury being so easy to maintain now. I like protecting the squishies so I take taunt on the Broots.

That's why I rerolled my fav scrapper, DM/DA, into a Brute. The only scrappers I have now are ones that I find better for numerical or power reasons (fire/shield because sd is awesome on scrappers, kat/regen because I don't wanna tank with a regen brute and I can get shadow meld on a scrapper).

if you really are intent on using it on a scrapper, then i would look into getting an immob power

blaze mastery has ring of fire, it would at least keep your main target immobed and give you lead to get fireball as well

weapon mastery has web grenade to immob your target as well as caltrops to help add more dmg and slow the mobs some (i know a lot of people dont like it but i use it on my spine scrapper all the time)

the last option could be to get darkness mastery and work towards tenebrous tentacles, its a cone immob though so you would have to pop it before you jumped in to get the biggest bang for your buck but it is an option

Yeah, I sent a PM to Arbiter Hawk before even finding this thread today.

It doesn't seem right that Scrapper Burn does the LEAST damage of any other version. I know it is a pet, but it seems there should be some way to flag it as the scrapper version.

What about increasing the target cap and making it do even more damage up front?

I doubt that they can flag it to have the AI work differently without major headaches.

It just seems unfair that Scrapper's Burn is the only version that doesn't have tools to cause it to deal all of the damage.

I actually enjoy that Brutes and Scrappers have one signature armor set each. Shield is for Scrappers - it plays to their advantages over brutes (higher base multiplier, critical hits). Fire Aura is for Brutes - it plays to their advantages over scrappers (higher health, higher resistance cap, taunt effect on attacks).

Over all, though, I agree with _Pine_ - if gimmick-less straight up damage is what you want in an AT Scrapper beats Brute. The extra toughness of brute is never really a factor if you're not tanking, even on sets like Elec Armor. 75% isn't as cool as 90% but the Mu you just crit into oblivion in less than 10 seconds to open the fight would be hard pressed to tell the difference.

Brutes just feel stronger to me, mainly cause of Super Strength. Feels weak to be Scrapper karate chopping and slashing people with a Katana. Do not care what numbers say really, to me my SS Brute does more damage. Only Scrap Primary I really like is Fire Melee.

There was really one thing that attracted me to a Fire/Fire Aura Scrapper in mids....... Shadow Meld. Since Brutes do not get that I will just stick with my old school SS/Invul. I will role another scrap though if they do manage to change Burn. Having a Fire/Fire/Soul Scrap with Burn working just seems sick.

The Burn power scattering everyone on my scrapper drives me crazy as well. But I've been thinking about trying the new Spectral interface power that adds a decent chance to immobilize (4-10%) on every attack power. Spectral might naturally lock foes in place enough to make Burn useful. Just a thought.....