Issue 21.5 Badges

Not sure of the chances for them spawning - they may all be equal. I can tell you that the last one that appeared for my group was Paladin. That may have just been pure chance though.

I think you just indirectly answered this question/concern. If it's possible to get this badge after just one night's worth of effort then it can't be too hard/rare to get all the spawns. I suppose the only follow-up question I'd have is how many times did your league restart the trial to get them all? Was it like 10 times or more like 20 or 30?

At any rate I don't think I'm going to worry about "farming" this one unless I find other people interested in doing it. Like you say it sounds like a badge that will happen after a certain number of runs regardless.

I didn't keep count. It was in the 10-15 range, I think. We were up to 15/16 AVs for several runs before Paladin finally spawned.

That's cool. I guess I'd rather it be in the 10-15 range than like 100+.

The TPN was described at the Player Summit as "an exercise in plate-spinning". I'd agree that the league mentality should be focused enough to keep abreast on multiple objectives and adjust tactics accordingly.

Lothic: I'd agree with your opinion as well. This is a nice badge to farm out to get through most of the defeats quickly, but it's luck of the draw for who you happen to get. The nice thing is, the "farming" of it goes easily enough. If you want to give yourself a leg-up on the badge by banging phase 1 out five or six times, you'll be well into the teens (out of 16) with any luck. (I did it four times and ended up with 14/16, but again, it's luck of the draw.)

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I have a question about this one. One the runs we did in TPN last night we were in each building several times. To get this badge do we need to hit all 4 terminals each and every time we are in a room with them? I am pretty sure that we got teleported out after hitting 3 of the terminals, so would that mean we need to click the last 2 terminals in a room at the same time? Or do we simply need to make sure that we use A,B, C, D terminals all at least 1 time each out of the few times that we are in each room?

I am not sure that my question is very clear, if people have trouble understanding what I am asking I will try to clean it up some, but I have to head out for a bit, so no more posting from me for a while.

Well as always it boils down to getting a group willing to do it. Lord knows if it were just up to me I'd easily spend the time to farm it solo. But it's sometimes hard to talk "crazy" ideas like that into a League who just wants to play it "normal".

Anyway I've only managed to run MoM twice so far and after two successful runs I've already managed 5/16. With my luck I'll probably get up to 15/16 real quick then take like 20 more runs to get the last one, but at this point I'm not going to worry about it until that actually happens.

P.S. I won't quibble about how you managed to get 14/16 in four runs when (as far as I understand it) you could've only gotten at best 12 in four runs (3x4) but I'll simply assume you've managed to have good luck with it regardless.

You don't have to get all 4 terminals each time you are in the building. You just have to get all 4 in each building at some point in the trial. I got the badge today and that was how it worked for me.

Thank you. That is what I was hoping to hear, and that seems veray do-able without too much difficulty.

On a successful TPN tonight (without trying for anything specific), we got "Todays Top Story" and "Fair and Balanced." We had a very good group of people, but I was still suprised that we got those 2 badges on our first success and wihtout even knowing how to get them. (We had not really read any of the guides to this trial because we like to figure stuff out ourselves.. to be fair, I am sure a couple of people looked at the guides, but most of the people had no clue what to do when we stepped in).

I was also lucky enough to lead a successful MoM tonight, I had failed 2 just prior to leading one, and totally enjoyed the trial. The "gimmicks" did not feel to bad, the trial moved quickly, everyone seemed to work together well (and this was a true PUG). We finished the Penelope Mayhem part with less than 30 seconds to go since it took the league a bit to really understand the mechanics of that fight, but we got it done.

Personally, I love both of these new trials and would like to thank the Devs who worked on them, you did a great job.

I agree fire... these were fun last night , it comes down to understanding what to do and then doing it... it was a good feeling to finish the first one and get a success under our belts

Loth, where do you find the counter? we did two last night and were not successful but we did kill a few during that phase but I didn't see a counter...

Just check the badge progress bar for that badge.

I actually don't know if there's some kind of "must complete the trial successfully before you can farm that badge" requirement.

As I mentioned I've only run that trial twice now and I've been lucky enough to have successfully completed both runs. I don't think I bothered to check my "closest to completion" list until after I finished the first run. I suppose it's possible the game would force you to have a successful run before it saves any progress into your badge list, but that would be fairly weird all things considered. It might be a case where the game is still tracking your progress but won't show it to you until you have a successful completion. *shrugs*

The counter does count the nightmares, but doesn't show up until you complete the trial. I failed one and then the second one was successful. My counter then showed 6/16.

Yeah that's kind of what I was assuming based on what Energizing_Ion said. It would have been really crummy if it didn't track credit for a given secondary trial badge unless you had managed to complete the trial in the first place. I guess in this case we just have to deal with not getting a "cosmetic" progress bar until the main badge triggers.

It could probably almost be considered a "bug" to be working like that, but I assume this is probably one of those kinds of things that we'll just have to accept as WAI.

I would guess that it works like that to prevent people from getting a badge from a trial that they have not successfully completed. I would love to see the progress bar begin even on failed attempts and only have the badge rewarded when you complete the trial, but I am not sure if that is possible with the current implementation of these badges.

This raises a more general question that I don't think ever came up before: With all these Incarnate trials and their "sub-badges" as part of the Master badge requirement do you have to have the main trial completion badge before you can get any sub-badge? I'm guessing the obvious answer is 'yes' because of the way the badges are triggered.

Maybe this new badge is unique because this is the first time we've ever had a particular sub-badge that was itself a "count" badge - all the others have been the basic binary type (either you have it or you don't). The weirdness of being able to have a half-finished sub-badge probably caused all these questions in the first place.

You can get Not on My Watch (BAF) and Synchronized (Lambda) without completing the trials; they award immediately upon the requirements being met.

I'm a little confused about this one. There are only two 500-point Public Opinion challenges; the other caps at 250 and doesn't require reaching that threshold. So:

• Is the first challenge included in this?
• Do you have to get to 250 Public Opinion for the badge?
• Or did I miss a third challenge at some point?

I'm being told it's tied to my Veteran badge awarding schema. Who knew?

(Sorry for being a bit unclear; I should have said "four farm runs IN ADDITION to a normal MoM run earlier that afternoon". For a dice roll value, it'd be a total of five runs that day.)

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Which has always clearly been a Nemesis plot but I digress...

Well I wasn't really questioning your badge progress as much as your "fuzzy math" skills.