RMT spammers getting brave aren't they?
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Adeon Hawkwood,
Posted on: 2011-11-17 06:34 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
Not entirely sure what the point of WHY someone would do this is, since all the best arcs in COH are between about 20 and 40.
I can rack up 150mill inf in 60 minutes - spread over 4 days - simply by ghosting Hero/Villain Merit missions, selecting a Numina Regen/Recovery and flogging it off to desperate minmaxing scrappers. Something I could easily repeat across all my toons.
Samuraiko's video holds equally true for any other game. Sure, you could shell out $50.00 for X number of million ISKies on EVE, only to get your ship scrapped and your backside podded by a gate sniper. Who will then harvest your remains, flog it, and then probably sell off those ISKies to you for your next character.
I play CoH as, y'know, a game. For fun. It's not something I'm ever going to win commendations for, get a job with, make the papers with or change the world with. I do those things as I stalk the night sky of Norwich, protecting the weak and dealing out slinky leather-clad-justice as...
...but I digress. You buy from spammers, you (a) deprive yourself of cash (b) deprive yourself of your credit card details and (c) deprive yourself of the fun of actually playing the game itself as a game.
Is it time for the dance of joy yet?
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Because some people are captivated with the fallacy that the game begins at the level cap. Frankly, I don't believe this is true in most MMOs. Even the great behemoth that shall not be named. But, there are a lot of people who think the "raids" in an MMO are the whole game and the rest is just put there as an annoying obstacle to trod through before you can start them.
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Originally Posted by DreamWeaver
Not entirely sure what the point of WHY someone would do this is, since all the best arcs in COH are between about 20 and 40.
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Not sure Id classify a person's preferences as a 'fallacy' and Id venture to say that your opinion of the matter is a little dramatized. Some people spend hours working on SG bases, while others devote time to farming. Some enjoy playing stock broker on the market and others show great pride in collecting displaying badges. With the multitude of different aspects the game presents to players, why is it a strange concept to understand that some enjoy higher level TFs (where the majority of powers are available)/PvP and etc which many times utilize end game builds?|
Originally Posted by Tyger42
Because some people are captivated with the fallacy that the game begins at the level cap. Frankly, I don't believe this is true in most MMOs. Even the great behemoth that shall not be named. But, there are a lot of people who think the "raids" in an MMO are the whole game and the rest is just put there as an annoying obstacle to trod through before you can start them.
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Your statement seems very black and white and sorta, "this is the fact of the matter" as opposed to recognizing people have different preferences. If I miscategorized your viewpoint, I apologize.
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When their "preference" takes them to the point of violating TOS and the law to pay someone else to play the game for them to bypass the first 49 levels of it, then, frankly, yeah, this IS the fact of the matter. I've been around enough MMO communities to have seen plenty of people who don't even bother trying the pre-endgame game of an MMO. They find the first opportunity they can to get powered through it. They remain obsessed with getting to the level cap and don't bother giving it a chance. This stems mainly from an over-competitive nature. "I want the biggest numbers and best raid gear, and I can't get that 'til the endgame!" While there's nothing wrong with wanting a powerful character, when you're so obsessed with it that you're "fast forwarding" past the rest of the game, then you're missing the point. It's like using the level skip cheats in DooM ( yeah, calling up a classic there. |
Originally Posted by CrazyJerseyan
Not sure Id classify a person's preferences as a 'fallacy' and Id venture to say that your opinion of the matter is a little dramatized. Some people spend hours working on SG bases, while others devote time to farming. Some enjoy playing stock broker on the market and others show great pride in collecting displaying badges. With the multitude of different aspects the game presents to players, why is it a strange concept to understand that some enjoy higher level TFs (where the majority of powers are available)/PvP and etc which many times utilize end game builds?
Your statement seems very black and white and sorta, "this is the fact of the matter" as opposed to recognizing people have different preferences. If I miscategorized your viewpoint, I apologize. |
) to get to the endboss without ever playing the rest.In short, this "the game doesn't start until the level cap" isn't simply "a person's preference". In nearly all cases, it's a person's ignorance.
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Originally Posted by Tyger42
It's like using the level skip cheats in DooM ( yeah, calling up a classic there.
) to get to the endboss without ever playing the rest.In short, this "the game doesn't start until the level cap" isn't simply "a person's preference". In nearly all cases, it's a person's ignorance. |
The "Its the journey, not the destination" bollocks was fine the first 20 times I ran through the content. Lvl 50 is shopping and cooking a meal. 1-49 is the drive to the store.
If I can live until I'm 100 years old, do I want to rush to 98 just because I want to skip the boring parts of life?
No, I want to live those earlier 98 years.
Because then my last two will be worth it.
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By the time someone has been around long enough to develop a preference that isn't born out of ignorance and the impressions they've received from other MMOs, they probably know how to get themselves PLd without resorting to RMT.
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Originally Posted by CrazyJerseyan
Not sure Id classify a person's preferences as a 'fallacy' and Id venture to say that your opinion of the matter is a little dramatized. Some people spend hours working on SG bases, while others devote time to farming. Some enjoy playing stock broker on the market and others show great pride in collecting displaying badges. With the multitude of different aspects the game presents to players, why is it a strange concept to understand that some enjoy higher level TFs (where the majority of powers are available)/PvP and etc which many times utilize end game builds?
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Originally Posted by Oneirohero
If I can live until I'm 100 years old, do I want to rush to 98 just because I want to skip the boring parts of life?
No, I want to live those earlier 98 years. Because then my last two will be worth it. |
"And for us this is the end of all stories, and we can mostly say they lived happily ever after. But for them it was the beginning of the real story. All there life in this world and all there adventures in Narnia had only be the cover and the title page: now at last they were beginning Chapter One of The Great Story which no one on earth has ever read: which goes on forever: in which every chapter is better than the one before" - C.S Lewis, The Last Battle.
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Agreed. Ive been playing on and off for 7 years and still love the game, but at this point I enjoy high level TF/SFs and PvP (post lv35 vs 1-35). I dont want to be censored and have my posts deleted again b/c I broke the RMT rule once, 5 years ago, but I have been able to have toons to lv50 in no time at all on my own without some PLing service. It doesnt mean I dont enjoy the experience, I just enjoy a different type of experience.
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Originally Posted by Eva Destruction
By the time someone has been around long enough to develop a preference that isn't born out of ignorance and the impressions they've received from other MMOs, they probably know how to get themselves PLd without resorting to RMT.
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Originally Posted by Tyger42
When their "preference" takes them to the point of violating TOS and the law to pay someone else to play the game for them to bypass the first 49 levels of it, then, frankly, yeah, this IS the fact of the matter. I've been around enough MMO communities to have seen plenty of people who don't even bother trying the pre-endgame game of an MMO. They find the first opportunity they can to get powered through it. They remain obsessed with getting to the level cap and don't bother giving it a chance. This stems mainly from an over-competitive nature. "I want the biggest numbers and best raid gear, and I can't get that 'til the endgame!" While there's nothing wrong with wanting a powerful character, when you're so obsessed with it that you're "fast forwarding" past the rest of the game, then you're missing the point. It's like using the level skip cheats in DooM ( yeah, calling up a classic there.
) to get to the endboss without ever playing the rest.In short, this "the game doesn't start until the level cap" isn't simply "a person's preference". In nearly all cases, it's a person's ignorance. |
I was talking about illegally paying for gold service for in game money...if people actually allow someone to PL their toons for them, then they get what they get I suppose. It seems silly to do this when you can sit AFK in someones farm and hit lv50 in a few hours.
obssessed, captivated, violating the law...
These are the kind of words that make me say your posts are a bit dramatic b/c I wouldnt personally associate any of this with playing CoH or any game for that matter. If anyone is feeling this way when playing MMOs, then I would venture to say you may have a point.
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"when a stalker goes blue side, assassination strike should be renamed "bunny hugs", and a rainbow should fly out" -Harbinger-
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Who the heck wants to FF to the age of 100 when many people need others to change their diapers and cant remember who their family is. I think I have to agree with you.|
Originally Posted by Oneirohero
If I can live until I'm 100 years old, do I want to rush to 98 just because I want to skip the boring parts of life?
No, I want to live those earlier 98 years. Because then my last two will be worth it. |
But using your example with a twist...
If at the age of 50 I was exposed to a meteor that gave me powers allowing me to fly into space, timeshift, shoot lasers out of my genitalia, see through clothing (bow chika bow wow, I see where this is going)...I would definitely want to fast forward through levels 1-49 of my life where I had to drive around in a boring car, goto school for a worthless piece of paper, work for idiots and worry about paying bills.
Thats whats so great about this thing, we're all different and enjoy different aspects of life (read CoH).
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I honestly don't see how the level 1-49 content is any less enjoyable than the 50 content. It's essentially the same.
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Originally Posted by SinisterDirge
Do the credits roll after you beat the endboss in doom?
The "Its the journey, not the destination" bollocks was fine the first 20 times I ran through the content. Lvl 50 is shopping and cooking a meal. 1-49 is the drive to the store. |
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It has nothing to do with the content and everything to do with the power of my toon. I am not even a big fan of exemping down because I don't like to lose my powers.
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Originally Posted by Tyger42
I honestly don't see how the level 1-49 content is any less enjoyable than the 50 content. It's essentially the same.
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Except my toon doesn't die at 50. I don't understand how this relates to the game at all.|
Originally Posted by Oneirohero
If I can live until I'm 100 years old, do I want to rush to 98 just because I want to skip the boring parts of life?
No, I want to live those earlier 98 years. Because then my last two will be worth it. |
*Just to be clear, I don't condone paid for pl services or rmt at all. It is way too easy to get both without use of any sort of outside service*
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If someone is stuck on their own opinions to the point of being unable to see things from another's perspective, then whats the point in talking about it? Nothing anyone says will change the your veiewpoint and theres no point in continuing the conversation.|
Originally Posted by Tyger42
I honestly don't see how the level 1-49 content is any less enjoyable than the 50 content. It's essentially the same.
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Levels 1-49 like level 50 play can be enjoyable, you have powers, run missions, buy/sell etc. Your point though is like saying you dont see the difference between a Honda and a Porche...theyre both cars, they have air conditioning, they serve the purpose of getting passengers from one place to another. Its essentially the same thing which is true to some degree I suppose, but some people prefer one versus the other for whatever the reasons.
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"when a stalker goes blue side, assassination strike should be renamed "bunny hugs", and a rainbow should fly out" -Harbinger-
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Sent out the petition, 10 minutes later the GM had showed up. Presented the evidence and "Buh-bye!"
That and while he was trying to announce to people to go to http://buyfakemoneywithrealmoney.schmuck I was announcing to people "Unlimited Inf available for free. Head to http://boards.cityofheroes.com and hit the Market forum!"
Yeah. Petty. I know. I'm like that sometimes.
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