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I personally don't find the pet purples worth it. I find a pet purple as a way to make a pile of Inf and nothing more
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Originally Posted by Trilby
So, I'm a Robotic/Time manipulation Mastermind and I've just noticed how cheap the pet purples are and I am looking at buying the set. And while I'm asking one question, I might ask a few more so...
1) Is it worth getting the MM Purple set? 2) Which pet should I slot it for? 3) Is it worth losing 1 slot in the protector bot for the 7.5% global recharge aswell as having one in far sight and manuvers. 4) For the other two bot sets, any enhancements you suggest? 5) I'm also going to incarnate and wondering which lore pet I should take. My main has a T4 Core Cim which does nice damage, but I'm wondering if any of them give nice debuffs which work well with an MM. Thank you! ^^ |
Oh? For what reason, please?
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1> Getting the full set isn't really worth it at all, people who do use them tend to only use 2 or 3 of them and frankenslot. The Chance for Build Up proc is probably the more commonly used.|
Originally Posted by Trilby
So, I'm a Robotic/Time manipulation Mastermind and I've just noticed how cheap the pet purples are and I am looking at buying the set. And while I'm asking one question, I might ask a few more so...
1) Is it worth getting the MM Purple set? 2) Which pet should I slot it for? 3) Is it worth losing 1 slot in the protector bot for the 7.5% global recharge aswell as having one in far sight and manuvers. 4) For the other two bot sets, any enhancements you suggest? 5) I'm also going to incarnate and wondering which lore pet I should take. My main has a T4 Core Cim which does nice damage, but I'm wondering if any of them give nice debuffs which work well with an MM. Thank you! ^^ |
2> I dumped mine into the Assault Bot
3> Protector Bots can't take Defence sets, so the lotg unique will not slot in them.
4> Blood Mandate is by far the best pet set for defence bonuses and endurance bonus. Then there's the Edict of the Master 5% Defence and Sovereign Right 5% Resist Uniques.
5> Not entirely sure on this 1
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OK, I see. Not so good at franken slotting, so any suggestions?
And thanks, I got confused, silly me >.>
This is my general favourite slotting setup for Bots:
Tier 1 Drones:
Full set Blood Mandate
Tier 2 Prot Bot:
2 Acc/Dam Hami-Os
2 Def IOs (buffs bubbles to a total of 11.18% each)
2 Sovereign Right (Acc/Dam/End + Unique)
Tier3 Assault Bot:
1 Acc/Dam Hami-O
3 Soulbound Allegience (Acc/Dam/Rech, Acc/Rech, Dam/End)
1 Edict of Master Unique
1 Explosive Strike Unique (Used to have Soulbound Unique, not noticed that much difference tbh)
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OK, I'll try that, Thank you. But can you give me your justification for Strike I.E what does it actually do in terms of the robot? And would 1 dam, 1 acc do instead of 2 Hami-Os till I get run hamidon a few times?
Justification for Explosive Strike was that it had more of a chance to fire off from every hit that had a kb element to it, than the SoulBound Proc did.
You can replace the 2 Hami-Os in the prot bot with the acc + dam IOs from Blood Mandate, and the Assault Bot 1 with an Acc/Dam from any of the sets, but with a drop in Acc and Dam though.
IIRC the Acc/Dam Hami-Os are pretty cheap though (well they were when I got mine, and they're all 52+)
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OK, just checking. I like to know a reason for something than just mindlessly follow it.
Thank you so much ^^
If you slot the Build Up proc in something, slot it in the thing that attacks the most frequently to give it the most chances to fire.
In this case that would be the drones. Since each attack from all 3 bots makes it's own attack roll, it will check to proc on every one of them, and if if goes off it will affect the damage of all 3 of them (since you can't slot the 3 bots individually).
It's also worth slotting in Fire Imps, and in Phantom Army (the only way other than slotting you can use to increase their damage output)
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Originally Posted by Trilby
1) Is it worth getting the MM Purple set?
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your other pets.
2-3 slotting it is worth it to more easily cap damage on a pet who also benefits slotting other things like mez duration.
Slotting the parts with recharge is worth it in a recharge intensive pet that you also want decent values of acc/damage on.
On the other hand,
For the set bonuses, no, not worth it.
Putting the recharge parts in a non recharge pet, no not worth it.
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Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect
In this case that would be the drones. Since each attack from all 3 bots makes it's own attack roll, it will check to proc on every one of them, and if if goes off it will affect the damage of all 3 of them (since you can't slot the 3 bots individually).
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I also only use the Chance for Build Up from the purple sets. On my Thug/Dark. I have it in the enforcers.
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I believe rsclark is referring to the presumption that the proc going off in one bot boosts the damage of all. Each bot essentially has it's own coly of the enhancement slotted into it - but putting it in the drones might not be bad. On my Necro/Dark I put it into the T2 pets, the grave knights.
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No.
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The problem with putting it in drones is that 1. they only buff the one bot that attacks when it procs, so they are buffed essentially the same percentage of the time as any other pet would be and 2. the three of them together do less damage than the assault bot, so any buff to that damage is also less.
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Originally Posted by Rajani Isa
I believe rsclark is referring to the presumption that the proc going off in one bot boosts the damage of all. Each bot essentially has it's own coly of the enhancement slotted into it - but putting it in the drones might not be bad. On my Necro/Dark I put it into the T2 pets, the grave knights.
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I know a lot of people have answered you but I want to toss in my 2 inf because I have 3 level 50 MMs already and #s 4 and 5 are getting close.|
Originally Posted by Trilby
So, I'm a Robotic/Time manipulation Mastermind and I've just noticed how cheap the pet purples are and I am looking at buying the set. And while I'm asking one question, I might ask a few more so...
1) Is it worth getting the MM Purple set? 2) Which pet should I slot it for? 3) Is it worth losing 1 slot in the protector bot for the 7.5% global recharge aswell as having one in far sight and manuvers. 4) For the other two bot sets, any enhancements you suggest? 5) I'm also going to incarnate and wondering which lore pet I should take. My main has a T4 Core Cim which does nice damage, but I'm wondering if any of them give nice debuffs which work well with an MM. Thank you! ^^ |
1. Only if you downgrade below 50 often or if your MM needs the set bonus. Now partially slotting the set or even just the proc can be useful but it is never necessary.
2. Personally I prefer to put the proc in the Assault Bot. He's the only one I actively protect. I understand the point others have of putting it in the drones but they way I play they don't live long so they don't get to use the attacks a lot anyway. Now for thugs the proc belongs in Gang War in my opinion but you are just asking about bots.
4. I am boring because once I find something that works I use it to death. Drones I 5 slot the Commanding Presence set and add in Edict defense bonus. For Protector Bots I 6 slot Sovreign Right for status protection for my MM and the resistance bonus for my bots. I put in 3 of the purple set for Assault Bot so I get more hitpoints and regen. If I slot in more it is only because I want him to be powerful when I exemplar.
5. I am not sure about Lore Pets yet for my MM. I have been perusing Paragonwiki to decide on which one I am going to get my brute first. My MMs can wait because they are already pretty safe to play.
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This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.
The purple pet set is best for non MMs with limited duration longish cooldown pets, imo. With 4 slots can cap damage, almost cap recharge and get 2 enhancers worth of accuracy. The recharge isn't very helpful for MMs.
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The purple pet set is best for non MMs with limited duration longish cooldown pets, imo. With 4 slots can cap damage, almost cap recharge and get 2 enhancers worth of accuracy. The recharge isn't very helpful for MMs.
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The CfBU is definitely best in the Assault Bot, not the drones. It has a chance to proc per target hit by each attack, and the Assault Bot has almost all AoE attacks, some of which are HUGE areas. It procs extremely frequently in him. Additionally, the Assault Bot's damage scale is quite a bit higher, and it is two levels higher than the drones, so the purple patch doesn't ruin it's damage against higher level enemies.|
Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect
If you slot the Build Up proc in something, slot it in the thing that attacks the most frequently to give it the most chances to fire.
In this case that would be the drones. Since each attack from all 3 bots makes it's own attack roll, it will check to proc on every one of them, and if if goes off it will affect the damage of all 3 of them (since you can't slot the 3 bots individually). It's also worth slotting in Fire Imps, and in Phantom Army (the only way other than slotting you can use to increase their damage output) |
Edit: My Bot/Force Mastermind uses the following slotting:
Battle Drones: Blood Mandate x6 (L50)
- 97.49% Accuracy
- 97.49% Damage
- 73.78% Endurance Reduction
- Set Bonuses: 1.5% End Recovery, 3.75% Ranged, 1.88% Energy/Neg, 4.69% AoE, 3.76% Fire/Cold Defense
Protector Bots: Blood Mandate x3 (L50 Acc/Dam, A/Dam/End, Acc/End) Soulbound Allegiance x1 (Dam), Edict of the Master x1 (Unique), Sovereign Right (Unique)
- 73.78% Accuracy
- 95.11% Damage
- 47.70% Endurance Reduction
- Set Bonuses: 1.5% End Recovery, 1.88% Fire/Cold, 0.94% AoE Defense, 5% Defense Aura, 10% Resist Aura
Assault Bot: Blood Mandate x5 (L50, All but Acc/Dam/End), 1x Soulbound Allegiance (Proc)
- 91.78% Accuracy
- 91.78% Damage
- 53.00% Endurance Reduction
- Set Bonuses: 1.5% End Recovery, 4.69% AoE, 3.76% Fire/Cold Defense, 17% Chance for Build Up per target hit on all attacks (+64% Damage, +32% ToHit, 5.25 Second Duration)
Note that these values are without considering an Alpha Boost.
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I24 Proc Chance = (Enhanced Recharge + Activation Time) * (Current PPM * 1.25) / 60*(1 + .75*(.15*Radius - 0.011*Radius*(360-Arc)/30)) Single Target Radius = 0. AoE Non-Cone Arc = 360.
OK, well, I've speced according to the first guy and I'm playing with that atm. I'm also due a respec trial within the next month, so I'll be testing the builds. Can anyone give me the numbers on the first build though, or tell me how to work them out, please?
My build design atm is to screw up an AV's regen and let my bots protect me while I bring the pain, so I'm going for the longbow pet and stuff. My incarnate powers are gonna be Ion, Spiritual, Longbow and Reactive atm, but I might swap reactive for the -regen or recharge one. Any suggestions on stuff to improve that?
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Ill compare, anything I should really be looking for?
And if I were to post my MM and corrupter biluds, would you guys advice me on them or should I move to class specific forums?
would be best to post them in the relevant AT build threads tbh.
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For the Protector bot, its also worth considering (if you have the Inf, they are somewhat pricy) a couple of HO or SHO Enzymes. The Defense DeBuff part turns into 33% Defense Buff, better then you can get in any conventional IO slotting, so 2 of them caps the Protector Bot shields, plus the Probot can use the End Reduction. The reason they are pricy is because so many Defense based characters use them to save slots.
So, I'm a Robotic/Time manipulation Mastermind and I've just noticed how cheap the pet purples are and I am looking at buying the set. And while I'm asking one question, I might ask a few more so...
1) Is it worth getting the MM Purple set?
2) Which pet should I slot it for?
3) Is it worth losing 1 slot in the protector bot for the 7.5% global recharge aswell as having one in far sight and manuvers.
4) For the other two bot sets, any enhancements you suggest?
5) I'm also going to incarnate and wondering which lore pet I should take. My main has a T4 Core Cim which does nice damage, but I'm wondering if any of them give nice debuffs which work well with an MM.
Thank you! ^^