Yo Vorpal Judgement, you're awesome and Imma let you finish, but...

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I'd care about this if I actually played with sound on. As it is, I'll go with a meh.

Also, I have no toon with that Judgement.

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I thought it was 80 foot range 80 degree arc?

The Core and Radial tier 4 versions both have 120ft range and 120degree cone. Maybe it's harder to aim it so it was given more range and arc to make up for it? Or maybe because it's smash/lethal DoT damage and not the 'exotic' damage the other judgements have?

Maybe because it's smashing damage.

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That would be fun. stomp/ground-pound, and bolder fly up and fall on all the opponents causing KD.

ground pound should be a little like donkey kong ... LOL

They should use the Whirling hands animation for a massive ground pound.

(similar to what Vanden has in his avatar)

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I'm legitimately shocked that this wasn't the next Judgement power, actually. I mean, like I said, I love Vorpal, and it definitely fits my Scrapper better than a super-ground-punch would, but I also have characters that the punch would be a better fit on. Of course, I'm sure they're not done releasing new Judgements, it's just gonna take longer since it requires new animations.

Haha, so if it's on the ground, then it's a ground punch of some sort, and if it's in the air, it uses handclap animation instead?

Or just not usable, like Super Strength's Foot Stomp.

Now that's just wrong, it should deal slashing damage. maybe slashing + piercing. but bludgeoning?

Well first of all, there's no such thing as "slashing damage" in the game, but I'm assuming you mean Lethal. Anyway, the attack is essentially a Nightcrawler-like teleport attack (your character "bamfs" away, shadow images of your character appear next to all enemies in range and leaping roundhouse kick them, vanish, then your character reappears where they originally vanished from). So definitely smashing.

This flabbergasted me, as well. We already have all the animations in the game and striking the ground really really hard is a comic book classic. I could have sworn that would be next whenever we got more powers, but we turned out to get... Weird things, instead. I mean, don't get me wrong, I like weird things, but I'd prefer it if we covered our basics first.

A developer in a post somewhere explained this was designed for the "more natural" characters, but I honestly don't see it. I'd honestly have expected to see a "physical Judgement" power before anything else, and by "physical" I mean one that doesn't require the use of weird energies, teleportation or magic. A ground punch, a foot stomp, a Tremor clone and more would have been my first guess.

Really odd choice of powers there.

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

Stop. Stop right there.

I don't just want a more powerful version of (alternate animation) Foot Stomp. That would be the cheap way out. Incarnate powers deserve unique effects. Instead, how about a classic Hulk two-fisted ground slam?



Now, the real question is: PBAoE, targeted AoE, or a new hybrid type where the area of effect is a targeted AoE as well as anything that happens to be between you and the targeted area?

massive cone?

if they tweaked Haymaker, give it a slight pause when you raise your fists above your head, then speed it up for the slam? gets my vote.

Somehow I managed to forget that cones are a thing in this game.

...It's been kind of a long day.

You can only attack the ground so many ways. You can stomp it or punch it, and only in a handful of ways. Double fist, single fist, single stomp, hop-and-stomp, none of this really matters, as neither is "better" than the other. What would define a "super ground punch" would be the visual effects, the sound and the camera shale, as well as the power stats, obviously. That's why Reichsman's Foot Stomp is so much better than what we get in Super Strength and why Romulus' Nictus Stomp, while not as good, is still better than ours.

To be honest, I'm really not interested in the Hulk's "squat-and-punch," and I'm not saying that to be a dick. I just don't like that stance as a visual. Whenever possible, I prefer to not have my characters squat. If they need to duck or lower their centre of gravity, I prefer this to be with a wider stance of the feet or by kneeling to one knee. In this sense, I would vastly prefer a single-fist ground punch because this allows the character's fist to reach the ground without needing to squat. It means the character can use a straight arm and shoulder rotation to gain reach without having to lower the torso, and it means the character's legs can stand far apart for the duration without looking goofy.

Sure, I'd appreciate something with a hop and a punch, kind of like Leaping Attack (but less sluggish) or like Whirling Hands, but really - there ain't much left for them to make that won't be just a repeat of existing animations. And much as I like new animations, making new ones that are a lot like the old ones seems like a waste.

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And, personally, I'd prefer an AoE. I prefer to think of punching the ground causing an explosion shockwave which hurts people, as opposed to somehow sending destruction forward through the ground in a way that defies my suspension of disbelief. The latter just makes it seem like it's the ground hurting people, rather than your punch.

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

That general question went unanswered when I asked for just such a thing during one of the u-streams past.