Twinshot antifan thread.

If people think the Twinshot/Graves arcs are abusive now....C'mon man

Originally Posted by Zwillinger GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.

Originally Posted by Captain_Photon NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

Honestly, I always assumed that Twinshot was supposed to be a bit... Off... In her way of speaking. (remember, her Praetorian counterpart is Ricochet.)

Where did that come from?

Twinshot is a former member of the US Special Forces turned cocky superhero. I would be surprised if she doesn't call anyone short of Statesman or General Aarons 'kiddo'.

Its MMO Law: Thou Shalt Always Progress Thine Character On The Heroes' Journey. You're level 5, you're just a couple levels out of busting womprats in Beggars' Canyon. Storywise, you're not supposed to be a well-trained veteran, hence why you don't have access to the Leadership or Presence pools. There's nothing stopping you from saying that your character had a long and detailed heroic/villainous history, but the game as its been designed since opening day was not set up that way.

But it also goes to what I said above. Twinshot has been around long enough to not only get into the special forces, but to also hang with Eddie Poelstra. She's somewhere between John Rambo and Wally West. To her, just about everyone bouncing around Atlas Park is a junior hero.

Blood Widow Ricki * Tide Shifter * T-34 * Opposite Reaction * Shaolin Midnight * ChernobylCheerleader

Entropy Legion * Hyperion Force * Hero Heights

Well, she looks like her, and her name has a very similar meaning

I can't speak for anyone else, but I was essentially convinced of it after about one mission from her. While Twinshot is slightly more coherent, her general demeanor, her patronizing attitude, and her penchant for goofy slang are still pretty noticeable. It seems pretty clear the devs were trying to draw that comparison.

Then again, you're known to hate the whole "Praetorian Mirrors" aspect of the parallel dimensions, whereas I really find that part fun, to the point basically all my Praetorian characters are, in some way, a "mirror" of one of my Primals (or vice-versa), so it might be natural for me to assume one thing and you the other.

Last I heard, you get a radio/newspaper at level 5. Use it. After the first bank mission you get a regular contact. Go from there. I'm frankly tired of hearing all these people, who are SUPPOSED to be vets, crying about having to do Twinshot's arcs, like they have no other option.

Now you're just sounding like yet another Atlas AE farm baby. Don't you put dialogue into your MA arcs? Oh, right.... that's GOOD dialogue... right.

I'm female and have been called "kiddo" more times than I could possibly count. If it doesn't bother me, I'd just have to say suck it up and drive on. You don't HAVE to play these arcs, you know.

Since you don't get your radio/newspaper until level 5 (never tried getting it early, so dunno if you can), you are stuck with the level 1-5 content, but that goes pretty quickly. After level 5, there is NO reason you are stuck with Twinshot's arcs if they're so abhorrent to you. All the old level 5+ content is still there (except for Galaxy City, obviously). Knock yourself out.

Without explicit evidence (e.g. the characters have the same codename or real name) or Word of God, any such conclusion is unjustifiable.

I suggest you learn to read, then, because that's not what I said, nor what you quoted. At no point did I suggest that Twinshot's arc was mandatory. In fact, that's not in the slightest what I was talking about.

What I said was I wan to run the old low-level content when I'm low level. NOT doing the old low-level content and grinding to level 5 is not running the old low-level content. I want to run missions for the old FBSA contacts. What does Twinshot have to do with that?

Please, next time you try to put words in my mouth, do have the decency to provide a quote where I said these things. That way, you don't embarrass yourself quite so much.

No, I don't put dialogues into my Architect arcs because... I can't. Last I checked, players aren't given the tools to create dialogue trees. And what does that have to do with farming or powerlevelling? I'm saying I want to play the game, not read endless text boxes and run through mission after mission of no enemies. City of Heroes is not the right game to have empty instances of nothing but talking. It's not very good at it.

Besides, Launch content never had a problem with giving me missions full of stuff to do AND presenting me with a persistent world and a consistent storyline. Why do new missions have to use gimmicks all the time to achieve a lesser effect?

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

Fairly certain it was mentioned in one of the early posts on he beta forum where the contacts were introduced.

Pics or it didn't happen.

I don't care how "cocky" she's supposed to be... The kiddo-thing is still annoying. <_<

I ran the arcs once with Anigan just to see them. I haven't run them again with anyone else, and I don't intend to. I'll stick to DfB, street-sweeping and radio missions... Or just letting my new characters spend their first 20-odd levels in Praetoria.

The Twinshot story is a bit... Simple. Especially the end. It goes like this: 1) There's a traitor 2) Twinshot has been acting OBVIOUSLY suspicious so 3) Twinshot is the traitor! Sadly, anyone even remotely genre savvy will tell you that, no 3) Twinshot is OBVIOUSLY a red herring. But to make her a good enough red herring, the writers had us jumping to conclusions because that's how you tell a red herring angle in a non-interactive medium. If you can't make the player buy the swerve, then make the CHARACTER buy it, instead. It goes hand-in-hand with the "kiddo" thing.

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

I would have loved the option to tell her that Grym was planning something. It probably would not change the last mission but at least it would feel less like assuming Twinshot did it.

This is what the MA was made for. Someone do this. I will play it.