Cheap renames?


Aggelakis

 

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I have a level 50 Controller who I don't (well hardly ever) play, who has a name that I want to reuse on a new character, but the price of a character rename is a bit steep (IMO). If I create a place-holder on a server without that name, transfer the 50 there. Will I get a free rename? I have two free transfers and I'm unlikely to use them for their intended use.

Also is there a cool down for server transfers? If the above method works I'll use it to rename a main on my main account, but if I need to wait 30days (or something) before transferring back I'll wait until I know I won't be playing for a while.


 

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You will get a rename when you transfer even if the name is available.

When you transfer it'll come up with the name and a 1 at the end. All you have to do to keep your name if it's free is remove the 1.

Or you can pick another one! SO transferring will allow you to change the name and free up the name on the original server. Or you could keep the name on both servers.

Not sure if there is an hourly cool down on transfers but I know I was able to transfer one and then another the next morning.


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Yup, just did it. Transferred a toon from my home server to Protector and created a place holder on my home server. Transferred back and I was prompted to change the name of the original toon after I logged in with her. It took a minute or two for the name change to go through. I hope that was easy to follow. Oh, and it doesn't look like there's a cool down for transfers either.


 

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Originally Posted by MaestroMavius View Post
You will get a rename when you transfer even if the name is available.

When you transfer it'll come up with the name and a 1 at the end. All you have to do to keep your name if it's free is remove the 1.

Or you can pick another one! SO transferring will allow you to change the name and free up the name on the original server. Or you could keep the name on both servers.

Not sure if there is an hourly cool down on transfers but I know I was able to transfer one and then another the next morning.
Huh... I didn't know that.
It wasn't that way when I used them... Back when they had free transfers for a bit.
That's the only time I ever used any server transfers. In that case, I'm pretty sure there was only a rename option if the name had already been taken on the new server you'd moved to.


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Originally Posted by MaestroMavius View Post
You will get a rename when you transfer even if the name is available.

When you transfer it'll come up with the name and a 1 at the end. All you have to do to keep your name if it's free is remove the 1.

Or you can pick another one! SO transferring will allow you to change the name and free up the name on the original server. Or you could keep the name on both servers.

Not sure if there is an hourly cool down on transfers but I know I was able to transfer one and then another the next morning.
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Originally Posted by Electric-Knight View Post
Huh... I didn't know that.
It wasn't that way when I used them... Back when they had free transfers for a bit.
That's the only time I ever used any server transfers. In that case, I'm pretty sure there was only a rename option if the name had already been taken on the new server you'd moved to.
That's because Maestro is wrong. That's not how it works. The only time you get a free rename is if the name on the target server isn't available. If your name is free on the target server, you keep your name.

I have done enough server transfers to know this first hand, unless they changed it after Freedom was announced because I haven't done any server transfering since before they said VIPs would get a free transfer a month.


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I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.

 

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It may be a bug, but I'm 100% certain it worked this way atleast on 4 toons I transferred from Liberty to Virtue.

I checked to make sure the name was open on Virtue, if it was I then moved my toon off Liberty and to Virtue, using the 6 transfers for a $1.

The 1st time I did it, upon seeing the 1, I panicked, thinking someone had snatched my name in the few minutes it took. Upon logging in I got the rename prompt and removing the 1 was all it took.

Multiply that by 3 more times and I'm sure I speak the truth, like I said, may be a bug, but I'd appreciate if you mention that possibility first before calling me a liar in the future. I don't troll 'round here, and I don't post misinformation.

I can say that it isn't always like that. As I transferred two more from Infinity to Virtue and didn't have the 1 at the end the final two times. I just figured it had something to do with the specific name though.

Anyways, the fact remains, if they transfer a toon and then make another, taking the now free name, upon transferring back they will be able to rename the controller for free.


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Originally Posted by MaestroMavius View Post
It may be a bug, but I'm 100% certain it worked this way atleast on 4 toons I transferred from Liberty to Virtue.

I checked to make sure the name was open on Virtue, if it was I then moved my toon off Liberty and to Virtue, using the 6 transfers for a $1.

The 1st time I did it, upon seeing the 1, I panicked, thinking someone had snatched my name in the few minutes it took. Upon logging in I got the rename prompt and removing the 1 was all it took.

Multiply that by 3 more times and I'm sure I speak the truth, like I said, may be a bug, but I'd appreciate if you mention that possibility first before calling me a liar in the future. I don't troll 'round here, and I don't post misinformation.

I can say that it isn't always like that. As I transferred two more from Infinity to Virtue and didn't have the 1 at the end the final two times. I just figured it had something to do with the specific name though.

Anyways, the fact remains, if they transfer a toon and then make another, taking the now free name, upon transferring back they will be able to rename the controller for free.
This is because when you check a name with the new character creator it reserves the name for several minutes. If you then transfer immediately after checking it will show as the name being taken and grant you a rename token. Since the reservation only lasts a few minutes you can remove the 1 appended to the name and keep the original name once the reservation expires.


 

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Thanks for the info.

I'd never done a transfer before last week and last night so I wasn't sure if I should bug it or not. That had to be what happened because I was doing it quick, checking the name then transferring as soon as I could. Truth be told, I wasn't even going to log in the 1st one I transferred, hadn't in 2 years. Just making room for new alts, when I saw the 1 after making sure I'd keep my name... The panic.

The two I didn't get the 1 on, I believe had been names held by a duplicate that I deleted and then transferred.


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Aggelakis didn't call you a liar. Just that it didn't match their experience, but also included "unless they changed it".

I'm curious, did you receive a rename prompt/option with the two characters that didn't get the 1 added at the end? (Of course, you may not have even logged them in, hehe)

Anyway, zero worries!


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Originally Posted by MaestroMavius View Post
You will get a rename when you transfer even if the name is available.

When you transfer it'll come up with the name and a 1 at the end. All you have to do to keep your name if it's free is remove the 1.
Are you sure? It didn't work that way when I transferred a toon. (This was prior to Issue 21.) I transferred a character with a deliberately unusual name and it was available on the destination server. No rename token, no change to the name.


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Originally Posted by MaestroMavius View Post
Multiply that by 3 more times and I'm sure I speak the truth, like I said, may be a bug, but I'd appreciate if you mention that possibility first before calling me a liar in the future. I don't troll 'round here, and I don't post misinformation.
I didn't call you a liar, I said you were wrong. There is a huge difference. The first is a comment in negative light, tantamount to a personal attack. The second is a description of your words.


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I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.

 

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Not o get in the middle of an argument. But, back on point.

1) you have Joe Smith on server 1

2) You create "Joe Smith" a level 1 who gives a crap on server B

3) Transfer Joe Smith from server A to B

4) You should now get that rename prompt, eh?


 

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You don't get a rename prompt until you actually log in Joe Smith1 (the transferred toon).


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I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.

 

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Originally Posted by Blue_Centurion View Post
Not o get in the middle of an argument. But, back on point.

1) you have Joe Smith on server 1

2) You create "Joe Smith" a level 1 who gives a crap on server B

3) Transfer Joe Smith from server A to B

4) You should now get that rename prompt, eh?
Correct!
And with two server transfers, you can send the character away, and have him back on his original server with a new name!


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It must be the name reservation feature of the character creator. I used my free transfer recently and had no rename offered, and the name of the character was not changed.


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I'm hoping to take advantage of this same feature for a 4 year old SG. My original SG was on Liberty (crickets....) And the danged thing actually got huge. Then I got wise and headed to Freedom. And it died. But that big old warehouse is still sitting there. Worse...I named it Vanguard Line. Right before RWZ came out, I swear. It was a phrase an old gaming buddy used to use for a books/dice RP game. I thought it was sooo cool. lol. Anyways, I want the whole 30mil prestige base moved, and a new SG name. (*fly hands)


 

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Originally Posted by Blue_Centurion View Post
I'm hoping to take advantage of this same feature for a 4 year old SG. My original SG was on Liberty (crickets....) And the danged thing actually got huge. Then I got wise and headed to Freedom. And it died. But that big old warehouse is still sitting there. Worse...I named it Vanguard Line. Right before RWZ came out, I swear. It was a phrase an old gaming buddy used to use for a books/dice RP game. I thought it was sooo cool. lol. Anyways, I want the whole 30mil prestige base moved, and a new SG name. (*fly hands)
To the best of my knowledge, as of right now, there is no availability for SG renames unless it is found to be against terms of use for the game (i.e., a GM changes the name). And SGs do not transfer with a character transfer. SGs remain on the original server or, if there are no longer any members, it is disbanded.

As for the renaming:

If you use the new character creator, create a name in the name field, click the "search glass" and get a green check mark, that name is reserved, even if you change that name in that field but don't check for another name. To release that name, you have to change the name in that name field and click the "search glass".

Whether you need to get a green check which then reserves that newly-searched name, I am not certain.



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Originally Posted by Grumble View Post
To the best of my knowledge, as of right now, there is no availability for SG renames unless it is found to be against terms of use for the game (i.e., a GM changes the name).
I believe this is correct.

Though if you ever needed to maybe you could create some out of game IP that uses the SG name (like a cheesy web comic hosted anywhere free, like deviant art or drunk duck or anywhere really) then petition that the SG name violates your trademark and ask a GM to rename it.

I have no idea if this would work. But it's the best I can come up with.


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Originally Posted by Ironblade View Post
Are you sure? It didn't work that way when I transferred a toon. (This was prior to Issue 21.) I transferred a character with a deliberately unusual name and it was available on the destination server. No rename token, no change to the name.
The confusion seems to be because I never did a transfer until Issue 21, so I had no prior knowledge of it being anyway other than what I experienced. Going with what I expected to be a helpful answer, ended up providing me with more info as well. It seems because I was careful to make sure the name was open, the 1 minute or so it took to transfer wasn't long enough for the temp hold from 'reserving' the name to wear off. Giving me the prompt. Probably a new feature of the updated name reserve.

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Not o get in the middle of an argument.

It's just the way I interpret the wording. I only speak when I'm sure I know about something, ergo saying I'm wrong is tantamount to saying I don't know what I'm talking about or in other words, I'm just making stuff up.

It's a personal idiosyncrasy of mine I suppose, it's obvious she wasn't attacking me, and I didn't feel like it was an 'argument', just wanting to be clear that I don't post made up information and asking for clarification, since I respect Agge's reputation on the forums.
I should've read it as mistaken but alas...


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Originally Posted by Grumble View Post
If you use the new character creator, create a name in the name field, click the "search glass" and get a green check mark, that name is reserved, even if you change that name in that field but don't check for another name. To release that name, you have to change the name in that name field and click the "search glass".
It will also release the name a few minutes after you leave the character creation field. Exactly how long it takes to release it is not known as of yet. Apparently it holds it long enough for a character transfer to take place anyway.


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Originally Posted by GavinRuneblade View Post
I believe this is correct.

Though if you ever needed to maybe you could create some out of game IP that uses the SG name (like a cheesy web comic hosted anywhere free, like deviant art or drunk duck or anywhere really) then petition that the SG name violates your trademark and ask a GM to rename it.

I have no idea if this would work. But it's the best I can come up with.
That is avery clever idea. A little troublesome, but in fact I am thinking of writing, and you have given me an idea. Thanks. No SG needs more than a couple million prestige, and that is buyable for a exhorbitant yet still doable amount. The case here is the SG is on Liberty. (*crickets) I heard a rumor that the Devs were considering SG transfers because of the new server. Am I just continuing a misinformation campaign started by ???


 

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They said they are working on an SG transfer ability, so that people could move their SG to Exalted if desired. But it was not easy and no word on how long it would take or even if it would every work.

Not surprising really. One person SGs are easy, but what if 5 players want to transfer to a different server, but 8 others don't. Who gets the SG? Do they duplicate everything the SG owns on the second server? Or the SG name is taken by someone else on the other server.


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If you want to change an SG name, and are the SuperLeader, ask. Seriously. Just send in a petition, and ask.


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Not surprising really. One person SGs are easy, but what if 5 players want to transfer to a different server, but 8 others don't. Who gets the SG?
I would imagine that the Superleader makes the decision. That's how everything else works. And if they make it by majority vote, the Superleader can just kick everyone else if they want.


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I would imagine that the Superleader makes the decision. That's how everything else works. And if they make it by majority vote, the Superleader can just kick everyone else if they want.
And takes any salvage and/or IOs that the other players had in the base storage? And the ones left behind lose any work they have put into the base and have to start over from scratch? I am sure absolutely nobody would ever complain about any of that.

I am not saying it should not be done. Just that there are a lot of issues to deal with with regards to moving SGs/Bases between servers besides just the coding, and the Devs have to consider all of those issues.


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