Is it seriously happening already?

While there certainly are some people who are pre-fabricated jerks...

Often times, what happens is a combination of misfired intentions and interpretations and hasty assessments/judgments made that are often unfair/incorrect assumptions.

People often do this as though they never make any missteps of their own.
You know how it is... that person who just pulled into your lane when they really should have let you go by first... There wasn't even anyone else behind you! Bah! What a complete and utter moron I can't believe they let these people drive!!

Hey, there sure are a ton of terrible drivers...
But not every person that cut you off, left their signal on, didn't notice the light turn green, and so on and so forth... is always making those mistakes.
You may have just been behind Mr. Smith who's never made a single driving mistake before. Lucky you!
How many people have been behind you when you made a little mistake... and probably was cursing your name? It happens!
Grown ups, mature, level-headed people, recognize these truths and get over the immediate frustration.
All is well... maybe that driver in front of me doesn't always make mistakes! Maybe they just came back from a funeral! Who knows! It's all good. They didn't side-swipe me, it wasn't even dangerous, let's move on.

Try not to make over-arcing assumptions about people just from very small missteps,

Many people seem to love trying to put others in a box. As though they have this excellent ability of profiling other people... It is quite phenomenal when this ability is so potent through casual chat in an mmorpg.
Then they apply those assumptions into their further interactions.
It can get ugly quickly.

I like giving people the benefit of the doubt. I like giving people another chance.
I like being open-minded and allowing people who've made a mistake or misspoke or whatever prove themselves and I like it when they relax and have a good time right alongside everyone else having a good time.

It's really not that difficult.

This thread is now lolz.

lol emotions

I'd never pick sides since we have two people pointing the stink finger at each other, The best we can hope for is that Someone did something wrong. Either the Team leader or the Tank. Party Aggro happened. Drama hit the Forum.

All in all I say feed the Trolls some tea and biscuits and hope they can forget the bad day next week.

p.s. you can swap tea and biscuits with Egg Rolls a'la rule grammar 34 .

Honestly really going to point out Roll, Role. get a life people.


Frome thise pointe forwarde Ie wille spelle alle wordse withe addede E'se.

Troll fight!!! *The room is quiet for about thirty seconds. Mortal Kombat music playing in the back round* ... "FIGHT!" -the mortal combat voice-

You posted a giant blurb from the entire missiong and claimed in that instance you were tanking while the team was dying?

No I wont lay the entire blame for the team dying right there at your, feet, we were getting a little overwhelmed. However I will say you were definitely part of the problem.

A) I didnt say it excused being rude. B) I didnt say no RP, simply that RPing while the team is dying is A BAD IDEA. C) I did ask for the Pumicite swarms, and we handled it well. The team didnt wipe it came close. I kicked you because I don't let useless players sit on my team and soak experience while everyone else is busy actually playing.

You're the one who brought this pointless drama on the forums. If you don't like how I play please one star me, gignore me and move on.

Even more shocking after you were so polite in-game when I was PuGing the other day and you sent me a tell back saying you were the same tank.

Whoa, this thread got way uglier than it should have (from both sides).

I was in that team as the warshade... you can see me killing a magmite lord in the combat log /flex. I do think the OP was getting picked on unfairly... but I also disagreed with him quitting before the end of the mission 2 (at that point I assumed it was a "ragequit"; now it looks like he was kicked, which does change things a bit). I think the only thing I said in chat after that point was a sigh, which was related to the situation itself and not any of the participants. I stayed, switched to black dwarf (which I'm terrible at using, mind you), we finished the SSA and that was that.

Honestly, that entire run left me sour, and I exchanged a few tells with the stalker from the group afterwards who felt the same way. FWIW Nalrok, I understand and agree with your frustration, but I don't think this incident is worth this much drama (that I'm now contributing to... meh).

Thankfully, on a brighter - and much more important - note pertaining to the topic of this thread: all the other PUGs I've been in have been awesome -- so far I'm impressed with the Virtue community overall. The global channels for finding groups have been working out great for me! So don't give up.


-- Z.

Someone lock this thread already...

To, hopefully, add another little bit of fairness to this...

Just because it worked with the team makeup before, doesn't mean that it is the new tank's fault.
It sounds like the damage wasn't capable of taking things out before the enemies overwhelmed the group.
If the only difference was the trade of a Scrapper for the Tank... it is quite possible that it was the damage difference being the reason (many other factors, of course, could be the reason... players not doing enough can cause weird things, whether it is support or damage or control).

I'm only saying this because it has been tossed out there that the team was successful before with the same strategy, so it must be the Tank's fault... but, no. That's not true nor fair.
Regardless of who was at fault in this particular case, the fact that the only difference was the Tank does not mean it is the Tank's fault.

A SR/MA Tank can't make up the damage of... well, any Scrapper. And if enough people aren't making up for that lost Scrapper's damage... it could change the entire approach.

It's not rocket surgery!

Nothing is funnier than angry nerds.

we're all nerds here, right?