You will keep access to everything in Going Rogue (sans Incarnates because it requires GR+sub) - you keep Demon Summoning/Electric Control, but MMs/Trollers require a separate unlock. You will lose access to First Ward. FW is a zone pack for 600pp. You will lose access to Time Manipulation characters. TM is available for 800pp.
It also depends on how many Reward Tokens you have in the Paragon Rewards Program, because the PRP unlocks items/stuff in tiers. You may or may not have access to masterminds, auction house, inventions system, etc.
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Originally Posted by Dispari
I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.
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What's the difference between people who boughed GR with money and people who get GR when becoming VIP?
edit. and VIP person who drops to premium and boughed GR vs getting GR with new system?
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Wait...I would lose access to Masterminds and Controllers!? WTF.|
Originally Posted by Aggelakis
You will keep access to everything in Going Rogue (sans Incarnates because it requires GR+sub) - you keep Demon Summoning/Electric Control, but MMs/Trollers require a separate unlock. You will lose access to First Ward. FW is a zone pack for 600pp. You will lose access to Time Manipulation characters. TM is available for 800pp
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Smart way to get me not to unsub...my main characters are a Mastermind and a Controller (and a Dominator).
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If you're reward tier 5 or higher (i.e. 33 months of sub time... or less) you get them unlocked for free. Dominators are never locked out. MMs and Controllers are $15 each (1200 points) to unlock permanently for Preems if you're under 5. If you're intending to go primarily Preem and not VIP, it'd be the equivalent of just being a VIP for 2 extra months (give or take a little). Not really a bad deal (again, if you're not Tier 5)
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Originally Posted by BeyondReach
Wait...I would lose access to Masterminds and Controllers!? WTF.
Smart way to get me not to unsub...my main characters are a Mastermind and a Controller (and a Dominator). |
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Originally Posted by ShadowNate
;_; ?!?! What the heck is wrong with you, my god, I have never been so confused in my life!
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Way to fly off the handle and not click the link I provided and do a little research.
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Originally Posted by BeyondReach
Wait...I would lose access to Masterminds and Controllers!? WTF.
Smart way to get me not to unsub...my main characters are a Mastermind and a Controller (and a Dominator). |
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Originally Posted by Dispari
I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.
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......way to not realise not all of us 33 months of game-time.
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Originally Posted by Aggelakis
Way to fly off the handle and not click the link I provided and do a little research.
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Bad Voodoo by @Beyond Reach. Arc ID #373659. Level 20-24. Mr. Bocor has fallen victim to a group of hooded vigilantes who have been plaguing Port Oakes, interfering with illegal operations and pacifying villain's powers. He demands that revenge is taken on these miscreants and his powers are returned! You look like just the villain for the job. Challenging.
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Originally Posted by BeyondReach
......way to not realise not all of us 33 months of game-time.
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Originally Posted by ShadowNate
;_; ?!?! What the heck is wrong with you, my god, I have never been so confused in my life!
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So instead of subscribing for two months, buy 2400 PP and unlock them. They're now unlocked forever, and you never have to pay another penny to play them (including subscribing). To go along with those PP you just bought, you get two Reward Tokens to bump you further up the tiers.
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Originally Posted by Dispari
I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.
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Player A bought GR and goes premium: they have access to everything in GR (sans Incarnates), though some bits require separate unlocks (e.g. MM/Troller).|
Originally Posted by zachary_EU
What's the difference between people who boughed GR with money and people who get GR when becoming VIP?
edit. and VIP person who drops to premium and boughed GR vs getting GR with new system? |
Player B has never bought GR and goes premium: they lose access to everything in GR, including characters made with GR powersets, Alignment, Praetoria, etc.
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Originally Posted by Dispari
I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.
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Clarification needed here. I was under the impression that the devs had told us that content, rather than zones, would be gated. If this is true, then a Premium character would still have access to First Ward itself, but would be unable to access any of the contacts/arcs there. Has anyone tested to see if this is the case?
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Originally Posted by Aggelakis
You will lose access to First Ward.
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Originally Posted by Selina_H
Clarification needed here. I was under the impression that the devs had told us that content, rather than zones, would be gated. If this is true, then a Premium character would still have access to First Ward itself, but would be unable to access any of the contacts/arcs there. Has anyone tested to see if this is the case?
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Yes, Premium players can access First Ward, but can not play the Contact content. That content can be bought though. and once bought, you'd have it for the life of the game. I know from experiencing it during Beta.
I transferred a mid-20s Character over to the Beta to test First Ward. It was in the early points of the Open Beta and VIP setting weren't fully in. I could access First ward, but not start any of the Zones content.
Thank you for the time...
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Yes, sorry, I meant First Ward content. You can wander around the zone and kill dudes on the street and kill the Seed of Hamidon, but you can't actually do any interesting story-stuff in there.
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Originally Posted by Selina_H
Clarification needed here. I was under the impression that the devs had told us that content, rather than zones, would be gated. If this is true, then a Premium character would still have access to First Ward itself, but would be unable to access any of the contacts/arcs there. Has anyone tested to see if this is the case?
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Originally Posted by Dispari
I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.
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That...is pretty astoundingly stupid.
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Originally Posted by Aggelakis
Yes, sorry, I meant First Ward content. You can wander around the zone and kill dudes on the street and kill the Seed of Hamidon, but you can't actually do any interesting story-stuff in there.
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We will honor the past, and fight to the last, it will be a good way to die...
Must be easier to disable a contact(s) than a specific zone.
Plus it's advertising. "Look at this nifty zone, wouldn't you want to pay $7.50 to do missions here?".
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It's more than you get with most mtx zones. Most games don't even let you into the zone to poke around.
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Originally Posted by DarkGob
That...is pretty astoundingly stupid.
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Originally Posted by Dispari
I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.
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I want to point out that reward level 5 requires only 27 months, not 33 (9 veteran badges + 2 yearly tokens + 1 token for retail box + 1 free token = 13 required for level 5). So if the OP has been continuously subscribed since the forum registration date, he should be at that level.
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I appreciate your advice, but unfortunately that wouldn't help me. When I thought about going Premium, it was never a permanent thought. Seeing as I only intend to bring one of my characters down that Incarnate road he is currently Level 1, I thought I would unsubscribe, get him to Level 50, then resubscribe and be able to access the Incarnate content. Unfortunately, that character is a Mastermind. My intention of going Premium would be to save money, especially seeing as I have every intention of returning to VIP in the future. But because I would be forced to buy at least the Mastermind archetype that idea would no longer work. But I appreciate your help.|
Originally Posted by Aggelakis
So instead of subscribing for two months, buy 2400 PP and unlock them. They're now unlocked forever, and you never have to pay another penny to play them (including subscribing). To go along with those PP you just bought, you get two Reward Tokens to bump you further up the tiers.
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Bad Voodoo by @Beyond Reach. Arc ID #373659. Level 20-24. Mr. Bocor has fallen victim to a group of hooded vigilantes who have been plaguing Port Oakes, interfering with illegal operations and pacifying villain's powers. He demands that revenge is taken on these miscreants and his powers are returned! You look like just the villain for the job. Challenging.
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Originally Posted by zachary_EU
What's the difference between people who boughed GR with money and people who get GR when becoming VIP?
edit. and VIP person who drops to premium and boughed GR vs getting GR with new system? |
People who got those things for free just by being a VIP do not keep them. They will either have to remain subscribed or buy those things with points if they want to keep them.
Incarnate content is not included in that. Incarnates require a subscription, and ONLY a subscription to use. There is no way I am aware of to purchase it separately.
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You should already have at least 400 PP on your account, and so unless you've already spent it, MMs would be no more than $10. Each month you're subscribed, you get 400 PP (550 if you're tier8+... or was it tier9?).|
Originally Posted by BeyondReach
I appreciate your advice, but unfortunately that wouldn't help me. When I thought about going Premium, it was never a permanent thought. Seeing as I only intend to bring one of my characters down that Incarnate road he is currently Level 1, I thought I would unsubscribe, get him to Level 50, then resubscribe and be able to access the Incarnate content. Unfortunately, that character is a Mastermind. My intention of going Premium would be to save money, especially seeing as I have every intention of returning to VIP in the future. But because I would be forced to buy at least the Mastermind archetype that idea would no longer work. But I appreciate your help.
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How long will it take you to go from 1-50? If more than a month, then buying MMs would likely be cheaper... otherwise it obviously wouldn't. If you're trying to save money, you've got many, many, many options...
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Originally Posted by ShadowNate
;_; ?!?! What the heck is wrong with you, my god, I have never been so confused in my life!
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I'm curious as to what happens to Premium players, that do not have GR, who purchase a retail copy of GR after Freedom is released and apply it to their account. Would they have permanent access to all the content, builds, and costumes that come with GR, or will they still have to spend the PP to acquire them in the store?
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They'll have access to all the GR stuff, same as if you had bought and applied it before Freedom. The only difference is they would not get the 2 free character slots.
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Originally Posted by Wil_B_Profound
I'm curious as to what happens to Premium players, that do not have GR, who purchase a retail copy of GR after Freedom is released and apply it to their account. Would they have permanent access to all the content, builds, and costumes that come with GR, or will they still have to spend the PP to acquire them in the store?
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Originally Posted by ShadowNate
;_; ?!?! What the heck is wrong with you, my god, I have never been so confused in my life!
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Originally Posted by Kitsune Knight
They'll have access to all the GR stuff, same as if you had bought and applied it before Freedom. The only difference is they would not get the 2 free character slots.
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GR has dropped to $15 which is the pricing of the alignment switch alone. Needed for those brutes with low END that need access to the Energy Mastery set.
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Brutes get access to Energy Mastery even if they are villains who have never switched...
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Originally Posted by Wil_B_Profound
Complete, and utter, Awesome-Sauce!
GR has dropped to $15 which is the pricing of the alignment switch alone. Needed for those brutes with low END that need access to the Energy Mastery set. |
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Originally Posted by Dispari
I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.
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Chatting with a friend who was back on premium account and looking forward to playing again. In talking with her about the token system she was one short of filling out tier 6 so I figured she would have about 3yr vet with 7 character slots. She has a few lvl 50s, that were IO'ed but since she does not have the tier 7 filled her IOs on those characters will be unusable and grey'ed out.
Was I correct on the predicted charcter slots since she did get going Rogue and about not having IO access?
I want to clarify a few things about what I would or wouldn't be able to access if I cancelled by subscription.
So, currently, I have access to all of the content in the game through my VIP subscription (not including extraneous powersets etc.).
If I were to cancel my VIP subscription, what would I retain? I have purchased Going Rogue, so I'm told I would retain everything included (the powersets, the alignment system, Praetoria); but would I lose access to First Ward? If so, does that mean I would, in-turn, lose all the other benefits of being a VIP, for example, would I need to purchase Time Manipulation? Would my Time Manipulation character(s) be locked out until I did so?
I'm well aware I would lose access to the Incarnate system and would be unable to obtain further access to it without a subscription. That is something I have considered. Can I assume that all my Paragon Points already accumulated would be retained?
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