Signature Arcs: Which rewards are time-gated?


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Currently, none of the rewards in the SSAs are time-gated. There are two rewards in particular that I suspect you do not want to be available every 10 mins.

My suggestion is that you fix this one TODAY. Or at the very least tell folks what you consider as taking advantage of an exploit with regards to this.


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When I did the Villain side arc yesterday the first time it let me choose I took an Astral Merit. I did the arc again and it let me choose another Astral Merit. On the third time it said I had to wait another 7 days to claim that reward. So it would only let me claim two Astral Merits total before gating it to 7 days till the next time I could claim.

After choosing the 10 iThreads reward once, it also said that was gated to claiming again in 7 days time.

I've not tested it with Villain Merits yet.

(Edit: I was determined to find that -other- exit LOL )



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Let me explain why I would like to get an answer to this sooner rather than later. It seems to be getting an Alignment merit every run, when these things are supposed to be time-gated to every other day is more than a bit of an exploit.

But then, the devs never just come out and say that they consider it an exploit. In fact, they don't always take action against those who take advantage of these mistakes. So when I did it twice on one character last night and found I could get another Hero merit, I stopped doing them. But I know others haven't.

So I feel like a dope when I could be getting a Gladiator proc in one night but I'm trying not to cheat.


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Originally Posted by EvilGeko View Post
Currently, none of the rewards in the SSAs are time-gated. There are two rewards in particular that I suspect you do not want to be available every 10 mins.

My suggestion is that you fix this one TODAY. Or at the very least tell folks what you consider as taking advantage of an exploit with regards to this.
Have you gotten more than 2 of the same reward on one character?

My understanding, perhaps flawed, was that you had the reward table for your 'first time' and then the reward table normally - gated once a week - after that. So you could earn two this week, and one in subsequent weeks.

If you are getting 3+ then I do not think it is WAI.


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Originally Posted by Chyll View Post
Have you gotten more than 2 of the same reward on one character?

My understanding, perhaps flawed, was that you had the reward table for your 'first time' and then the reward table normally - gated once a week - after that. So you could earn two this week, and one in subsequent weeks.

If you are getting 3+ then I do not think it is WAI.
I haven't. But I haven't tried either. After getting two Alignment merits for 20 min. of play, I stopped, lest I be accused of exploiting.


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Originally Posted by EvilGeko View Post
I haven't. But I haven't tried either. After getting two Alignment merits for 20 min. of play, I stopped, lest I be accused of exploiting.
Hmmm... will go test this now. Within reason. If we can get up to 2 in a week, I'll see if I can get 3 or more on the character I've already done it once with. Like EG's post implies, I thought that it was 1 per week per character no matter what. I didn't realize you get 1 for the first time doing any signature story and then it is gated starting the run AFTER that.

Any clear word on how this is intended to work once we have multiple signature arcs? Will it be one big rewards table reward per arc per week per character? Or one rewards table bonus per character per week, regardless of the diversity of arcs?

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Edit:

So just ran this arc another two times on a character who had already gotten 1 hero merit. I was able to get one more. Third time I ran it, there was red text below the hero merit option on the rewards table saying I can only choose that reward once every 7 days. Since this character can fairly effectively speed this arc, going to run it a few more times to see how it currently *is* working, regardless of whether that is WAI. I'm just systematically picking each successive reward until it won't let me anymore, sort of like doing holiday mishes for badges and powers.

To be clear, on this character, running it thrice I was only able to get 2 hero merits total.

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Edit 2: Rewards Log
Run 1
Rewards Blocked From Selection: None
Reward Selected: Hero Merit
Rewards Received:
  • 2 Reward Merits
  • 1 Hero Merit
Run 2
Rewards Blocked From Selection: None
Reward Selected: Hero Merit
Rewards Received:
  • 2 Reward Merits
  • 1 Hero Merit
Run 3
Rewards Blocked From Selection: Hero Merit
Reward Selected: 4x Reward Merits
Rewards Received:
  • 2 Reward Merits
  • 20 Reward Merits
Run 4
Rewards Blocked From Selection: Hero Merit, 4x Reward Merits
Reward Selected: Reward Merits
Rewards Received:
  • 2 Reward Merits
  • 5 Reward Merits
Run 5
Rewards Blocked From Selection: Hero Merit, 4x Reward Merits
(Basic Reward Merits was still available, but I chose the next one in interest of testing)
Reward Selected: Astral Merit
Rewards Received:
  • 2 Reward Merits
  • 1 Astral Merit
Run 6
Rewards Blocked From Selection: Hero Merit, 4x Reward Merits, Astral Merit
(Basic Reward Merits was still available, but I chose the next one in interest of testing)
Reward Selected: 10 Incarnate Threads
Rewards Received:
  • 2 Reward Merits
  • 10 Incarnate Threads
Run 7
Rewards Blocked From Selection: Hero Merit, 4x Reward Merits, Astral Merit, Incarnate Threads
Reward Selected: Reward Merits
Rewards Received:
  • 2 Reward Merits
  • 5 Reward Merits
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Final Edit:

So, it appears that the system is WAI. But just not how I expected it to from the initial announcement. ALL rewards are available for the first time you do the mission. No selection counts towards your weekly limit. Then thereafter, you can claim each and every reward on the table once every 7 days with the 5 merits being the one repeatable reward.

The other thing that threw me, I expected the 4x Reward Merits to simply award 4x the base reward merits you receive for the arc itself: 2. When I got 20 for that selection, I thought I might have found a bug. But nope. It's 4x the 5 merits which is the repeatable reward.


 

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Originally Posted by SilverAgeFan View Post
The other thing that threw me, I expected the 4x Reward Merits to simply award 4x the base reward merits you receive for the arc itself: 2. When I got 20 for that selection, I thought I might have found a bug. But nope. It's 4x the 5 merits which is the repeatable reward.
Villain players do not appear to have been receiving the 2 merit end-of-arc reward. After petitioning about the lost redside merits (and rounds of back-and-forth emails), I've just been informed by Support that it's not that the v-side reward merits are missing, it's that the hero SSA should never have been awarding them in the first place.

So while the lack of reward parity between sides is not by design, only the devs can do something about it - whether that means adding the reward redside or removing it blueside.


 

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Originally Posted by Selina_H View Post
Villain players do not appear to have been receiving the 2 merit end-of-arc reward. After petitioning about the lost redside merits (and rounds of back-and-forth emails), I've just been informed by Support that it's not that the v-side reward merits are missing, it's that the hero SSA should never have been awarding them in the first place.

So while the lack of reward parity between sides is not by design, only the devs can do something about it - whether that means adding the reward redside or removing it blueside.
Looks like it's bugged. If you exit the mission right away before the Freedom Phalanx arrives, you don't have the 2 Reward Merits. BUT, if you stay in the mission till the timer reaches 0:00, you are awarded the 2 Reward Merits as the Reward Table pops up. Freedom Phalanx always spawn at the same spot in front of the Obelisk, so its easy to go elsewhereon the map while waiting for the timer to reaches 0.


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Originally Posted by Photonstorm View Post
Looks like it's bugged.
I had assumed that was the case, but Support is telling me that we're not actually supposed to be getting the 2 merits on either side. It certainly wouldn't surprise me to find out that they're wrong again, though.


 

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However, as they said during the UStream: The bonus reward is for doing ANY of the SSA's that week. Once all 7 are out for the current story you only get the weekly reward once. Not once per mini-arc.


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Originally Posted by bpphantom View Post
However, as they said during the UStream: The bonus reward is for doing ANY of the SSA's that week. Once all 7 are out for the current story you only get the weekly reward once. Not once per mini-arc.
The 2 merits isn't part of the bonus reward table, though. It's the end-of-arc reward, which does not appear to be gated, simply bugged.