Energy Aura. Disrupt and Energy Drain
Yeah the new EA makes things sweeter.. I tried making a build for my elm/ea, I feel I can improve but even this first attempt came out quite nicely, it's expensive because of kinetic combats but no purples (I could fit two purple sets in Fireball and Blast with no losses to defense):
1) def to s/l/e capped at 30 if I use lvl 33 sets, neg at 42% but capped a bit later
2) 98.8% global rech before Hasten and any Incarnate stuff (Mids will show you 78.8, because it still has the old /EA without the +rech bonus in Entropy Shield)
3) Capped hp after accos
I just need to find room for a Kismet, too few acc bonuses.
I think that even if I were the best builder ever, I'd have to sacrifice at least 2 sets that give + recharge to get more s/l/e/n def for Ice Armor, and I wouldn't get the +20 rech bonus from Entropy.
(btw in the build Flurry is Disrupt and Aid Other is Energy Drain, took these powers because they accept the same sets)
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01 elm ea: Level 50 Magic Stalker
Primary Power Set: Electrical Melee
Secondary Power Set: Energy Aura
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Medicine
Ancillary Pool: Blaze Mastery
Villain Profile:
Level 1: Charged Brawl -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), HO:Nucle(43)
Level 1: Hide -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 2: Jacobs Ladder -- Erad-Dmg(A), Erad-Acc/Rchg(5), Erad-Dmg/Rchg(7), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(7), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(9), Erad-%Dam(9)
Level 4: Kinetic Shield -- HO:Enzym(A), LkGmblr-Def(11), LkGmblr-Rchg+(11)
Level 6: Assassin's Shock -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(13), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(13), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15), HO:Nucle(46)
Level 8: Power Shield -- HO:Enzym(A), LkGmblr-Def(15), LkGmblr-Rchg+(17)
Level 10: Entropy Shield -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 12: Placate -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(17)
Level 14: Build Up -- HO:Membr(A), HO:Membr(43), HO:Membr(43)
Level 16: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 18: Chain Induction -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(19), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(19), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 20: Flurry -- Stpfy-Acc/Rchg(A), Stpfy-EndRdx/Stun(21), Stpfy-Acc/EndRdx(23), Stpfy-Stun/Rng(23), Stpfy-Acc/Stun/Rchg(37), Stpfy-KB%(39)
Level 22: Energy Protection -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
Level 24: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(25), RechRdx-I(25)
Level 26: Thunder Strike -- Erad-Dmg(A), Erad-Acc/Rchg(27), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(27), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(29), FrcFbk-Rechg%(33)
Level 28: Energy Drain -- Efficacy-EndMod(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(39), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(39), Efficacy-Acc/Rchg(40), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc(40), Efficacy-EndMod/EndRdx(40)
Level 30: Maneuvers -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(31), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(31), RedFtn-Def(31), RedFtn-EndRdx(33)
Level 32: Lightning Rod -- Erad-Dmg/Rchg(A), Erad-Acc/Rchg(33), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg(34), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(36)
Level 35: Aid Other -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(36), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(36), Dct'dW-Heal(37), Dct'dW-Rchg(37)
Level 38: Overload -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 41: Char -- BasGaze-Acc/Hold(A), BasGaze-Acc/Rchg(42), BasGaze-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(42), BasGaze-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(42)
Level 44: Fire Blast -- Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(45), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(45), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(45), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46)
Level 47: Fire Ball -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(48), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(48), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(48), Posi-Dam%(50)
Level 49: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 0: Born In Battle
Level 0: High Pain Threshold
Level 0: Invader
Level 0: Marshal
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Level 1: Assassination
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(50), P'Shift-End%(50)
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Set Bonus Totals:
- 4.5% DamageBuff(Smashing)
- 4.5% DamageBuff(Lethal)
- 4.5% DamageBuff(Fire)
- 4.5% DamageBuff(Cold)
- 4.5% DamageBuff(Energy)
- 4.5% DamageBuff(Negative)
- 4.5% DamageBuff(Toxic)
- 4.5% DamageBuff(Psionic)
- 14.3% Defense(Smashing)
- 14.3% Defense(Lethal)
- 4.56% Defense(Fire)
- 4.56% Defense(Cold)
- 16.4% Defense(Energy)
- 16.4% Defense(Negative)
- 3% Defense(Psionic)
- 8.63% Defense(Melee)
- 12.1% Defense(Ranged)
- 6.13% Defense(AoE)
- 7.65% Max End
- 3% Enhancement(Stun)
- 9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
- 4% Enhancement(Heal)
- 78.8% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
- 5% FlySpeed
- 207.8 HP (17.3%) HitPoints
- 5% JumpHeight
- 5% JumpSpeed
- MezResist(Immobilize) 13.2%
- MezResist(Terrorized) 2.2%
- 8.5% (0.14 End/sec) Recovery
- 40% (2.01 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 4.1% Resistance(Fire)
- 4.1% Resistance(Cold)
- 5% RunSpeed
- 2% XPDebtProtection
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Look, you are heavily biased against EA for some reason.
I have two EA builds: The currrent one which has 50%+ Defense to all but Negative (45%) and Psi (reduced a bit with 20% ranged defense and a luck). And has 117.5% global recharge (I dropped hasten once Spirtual Alpha T4 was obtained). This build can perma Double stack Energy Drain to get to or near the Incarnate softcap. This build does not have overload, because 1) I can incarnate softcap my defense already. 2) My HP is capped due to accolades and set bonuses. I should mention I have quite a bit of Regeneration due to set bonuses+ Perma Energize too. My fallback build: is the same exact build as above, but with 107.5% recharge, and the inclusion of Overload ( I also have to shift from Pyre Mastery to Mu Mastery, but my theme can handle this). I have pretty damn incredible UP/Down ratio on overload and guess what? NO CRASH due to accolade powers. I solo this stalker at +2x8 for normal play, but I can handle +4x8 no problem. I am very happy with it. I really hope Ice Armor works out for you, but you seem to be selling it based on what you think or feel. I have built a fully purpled out KM/IA toon during beta, and while I was quite happy with what I could do with it, there ARE major decisions that have to be made: Softcap vs Recharge bonuses for one. I didn't have mids so I am sure I could do better, but it is extremely hard to get that magic 30 Up/90 down time on Icy Bastion. EDIT: Oh Energy drain does sap pretty much as well as elec armor stalkers sap.... but you hate elec armor stalkers too don't you (even though they can be built to be very survivable). |
/EA Brute is superior than /EA stalker now. That is why I deleted my /EA stalker and re-rolled to an IA stalker. It is unfortunate IA isn't available to Brutes.
Yeah I am done, this is a waste of time as its not a discussion, its me talking and getting a response of:
NUH-UH.
Enjoy your Ice Armor stalker.
When something good happens to me, I can never enjoy it....
I am always too busy looking for the inevitable punchline...
BEHOLD THE POWER OF CHEESE!
That isn't impressive.
/EA Brute is superior than /EA stalker now. That is why I deleted my /EA stalker and re-rolled to an IA stalker. It is unfortunate IA isn't available to Brutes. |
What? Just because a Brute can muster a bit better %, that invalidates that normal Blasters, Scrappers, Brutes, Doms or even *Tankers* can't take that kind of punishment without help?
I don't understand why you can't just admit that EA is viable. Just as viable as IA and can be built to do impressive things.
Yes, so just admit you're wrong so you don't sound like a hard headed *****.
How is that not impressive?
What? Just because a Brute can muster a bit better %, that invalidates that normal Blasters, Scrappers, Brutes, Doms or even *Tankers* can't take that kind of punishment without help? I don't understand why you can't just admit that EA is viable. Just as viable as IA and can be built to do impressive things. Yes, so just admit you're wrong so you don't sound like a hard headed *****. |
He's a troll, never once he responded to any of his claims with a good explanation, he just keeps saying EA is garbage and we all fell for it (me included).
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Furthermore, I cited examples as to why recharge + that /EA has is overrated, and it isn't awesome sauce. I laugh at the people that spend billions on +recharge when they are beyond the point of perma dom. Waste of ingame currency.
And finally, Stalkers are one of the least end intensive archtypes in the game hands down (especially the changes to the Hide), so if you are struggling with end you are doing something wrong.
I just need to find room for a Kismet, too few acc bonuses. I think that even if I were the best builder ever, I'd have to sacrifice at least 2 sets that give + recharge to get more s/l/e/n def for Ice Armor, and I wouldn't get the +20 rech bonus from Entropy. (btw in the build Flurry is Disrupt and Aid Other is Energy Drain, took these powers because they accept the same sets) |
Also, before then to get one more slot could you pull the nucleus from Charged Brawl and add those enhancement boost thingy's to the KC Acc/Dam and one other and be close enough on performance?
That will give 29.6% accuracy/damage instead of 22.9%, and with the Kismet you should be close or better than with the nucleus since kismet is tohit not just accuracy.
the other way to get a slot using enhancement boosts is from haste. Here's a really nice chart I just bookmarked for myself:
50,50,50 = 99%
50+5,50+5 = 95.9%
50+5,50 = 91.8%
50,50 = 83.3%
I don't know about you but I have 6 enhancement boosts (total not per character) post freedom based on how long I've been subscribed. I haven't decided where to use them yet and probably won't buy any ever, but I figured you might have enough to make one of these a possibility so thought I'd toss it out there.
"Hmm, I guess I'm not as omniscient as I thought" -Gavin Runeblade.
I can be found, outside of paragon city here.
Thank you everyone at Paragon and on Virtue. When the lights go out in November, you'll find me on Razor Bunny.
I've heard in the scrapper forum that at some point "soon" we'll be getting three more slots. Any idea when that kicks in? i21 full launch or later? That will give you what you need.
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I tried, oh I tried to like Disrupt. Ugly animation killed it for me. Having it break placate made it worse.
My level 35 respec'ed out of Tough/Weave and got Energy Drain and Energize. Still seeing how that works. Better end management, but I do feel more vulnerable. I used to have ~41% S/L with suppressed Hide, not anymore, unless I Drain. My build is heavy on Crushing Impacts, which I could replace one or two with Kinetic Combats to make up for it. We'll see how it works.
Just to state my opinion:
I actually really like Disrupt's FX. It was the whole reason I picked up Repulse, in fact and I built the whole concept behind that KM/EA Stalker around Repulse (although I didn't use it quite that often).
Personally, I think the game needs more flashy visuals like that.
Actually it was thoroughly explained in this very thread in which you suggested Disrupt was awesome. I can't take your opinion seriously when you think disrupt is awesome and I cited examples where it is outshined by powers in other powersets.
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I asked also if the target cap would make it inferior in practice to OG since stalkers don't live at the aggro cap like brutes. It would be dumb for me saying a power is awesome before trying it, almost as dumb as you saying the HP cap is worse on Overload than on Ice Armor's only healing and HP power (which you did, I got a good laugh out of that)
And... Who ever implied that stalkers are end hogs? My DM/EA leveled with no Stamina because of Energy Drain.
See I had to fettle everything I wrote just because you can't read.
I've heard in the scrapper forum that at some point "soon" we'll be getting three more slots. Any idea when that kicks in? i21 full launch or later? That will give you what you need.
Also, before then to get one more slot could you pull the nucleus from Charged Brawl and add those enhancement boost thingy's to the KC Acc/Dam and one other and be close enough on performance? That will give 29.6% accuracy/damage instead of 22.9%, and with the Kismet you should be close or better than with the nucleus since kismet is tohit not just accuracy. the other way to get a slot using enhancement boosts is from haste. Here's a really nice chart I just bookmarked for myself: 50,50,50 = 99% 50+5,50+5 = 95.9% 50+5,50 = 91.8% 50,50 = 83.3% I don't know about you but I have 6 enhancement boosts (total not per character) post freedom based on how long I've been subscribed. I haven't decided where to use them yet and probably won't buy any ever, but I figured you might have enough to make one of these a possibility so thought I'd toss it out there. |
If I have some I'll use them, paying for them is out of the question for me too. But good idea, I'll find more about them and use when I IO a new toon, I've been leveling lowboys with new power sets in order not to get burned out quickly again like last time (made some shields and whatever toons last time I left and got PLed by friends using the hami farms, so... I had a lot of toons at level 30-40 with no slots in one week, found out that getting Pled is bad for my enjoyment of the game, except for my SS/Fire because I made him to farm, although the fact that I self PLed him to 50 in 2 days and spent the other 2 days getting T3 on all Incarnate stuff almost made me quit again lol, playing an Incarnate with an outlier powerset that could farm +4/X8 and do insane damage on TFs even with a cheapish IO build was a bit detrimental for my impression of the modern game).
Thanks Gavin, I actually only knew about these yesterday reading the PB forums, haven't even checked where they are in my account (I have 33 months since I've been on and off), do they appear in your mail like other items? If you get say, five of them, it's not five for each toon I guess, right.
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The far left is the inbox for actual communication. The second (middle) has items that you get for each character. The third (far right) are the emails that are one per account. They are in that third tab.
I have two emails with some in each. I think 1 and 5 but I didn't pay attention. Just saw them and made a mental note not to claim them by accident.
Also, any IO you use them on gets locked to the CHARACTER, even though everything about it says "account locked". You can't email boosted IOs, store them in a base, or trade them. But you can put them in your tray and thus move them to a second or third build.
playing an Incarnate with an outlier powerset that could farm +4/X8 and do insane damage on TFs even with a cheapish IO build was a bit detrimental for my impression of the modern game). |
Then I log into one of my other characters and get reminded that not everything is that way. Heh. Glad I have altitis.
"Hmm, I guess I'm not as omniscient as I thought" -Gavin Runeblade.
I can be found, outside of paragon city here.
Thank you everyone at Paragon and on Virtue. When the lights go out in November, you'll find me on Razor Bunny.
I actually really like Disrupt's FX. It was the whole reason I picked up Repulse, in fact and I built the whole concept behind that KM/EA Stalker around Repulse (although I didn't use it quite that often).
Personally, I think the game needs more flashy visuals like that. |
I'm not selfish enough to ask that the effects be removed so I can team, but a less garish option would really be appreciated.
And... Who ever implied that stalkers are end hogs? My DM/EA leveled with no Stamina because of Energy Drain.
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And then i teamed up with i think 5 differing people over the last few weeks that post in this forum and showed them.....and got told:
hey you attack fast
hmm imagine that....and they even noticed my energy running out fairly fast....which cant be helped....if you kill things fast with a stalker and kill alot.....your energy goes down pretty fast.
Though not sure why they didnt all play Stalkers....i wanted to see some actual play from some would be veteran Stalkers.
Oh by the way...Kioshi if that was you playign the Stalker named: Passive Fist on Freedom this last weekened....
Just wanted to say sorry about not staying for the second TF.....
I wanted to...but well....Got reeled into doing stuff with some other players i had promised to do some stuff with in game.
Might have been me who implied it.....though i didnt try to imply anything i outright said i had issues....on most of the stalkers i have.
And then i teamed up with i think 5 differing people over the last few weeks that post in this forum and showed them.....and got told: hey you attack fast hmm imagine that....and they even noticed my energy running out fairly fast....which cant be helped....if you kill things fast with a stalker and kill alot.....your energy goes down pretty fast. Though not sure why they didnt all play Stalkers....i wanted to see some actual play from some would be veteran Stalkers. |
"Hmm, I guess I'm not as omniscient as I thought" -Gavin Runeblade.
I can be found, outside of paragon city here.
Thank you everyone at Paragon and on Virtue. When the lights go out in November, you'll find me on Razor Bunny.
Might have been me who implied it.....though i didnt try to imply anything i outright said i had issues....on most of the stalkers i have.
And then i teamed up with i think 5 differing people over the last few weeks that post in this forum and showed them.....and got told: hey you attack fast hmm imagine that....and they even noticed my energy running out fairly fast....which cant be helped....if you kill things fast with a stalker and kill alot.....your energy goes down pretty fast. Though not sure why they didnt all play Stalkers....i wanted to see some actual play from some would be veteran Stalkers. |
But Stalkers are end friendly, you might have yours slotted for low endred. Even if you attack nonstop, a scrapper or a Brute will almost always use more end, since they have taunt/damage auras, more AoEs and draw more aggro. I only had some problems with my EM/Nin when I was on SOs and slotted ET and TF with acc+dmg only because I wanted them to hit like a truck and I didn't have slots for endred when she was leveling, but nothing major, my BR/Traps and ice/time corrs have to eat blues fairly often even with SOs and endreds, as my WM/EA Brute (WM is an endhog btw). Even my Elec/Regen never had end issues and Elec is 'the AoE set' for Stalkers.
And I wasn't the Stalker you mentioned, on Freedom I only have an Elec/Ea blueside that's my namesake (well he's Kyioshi, Kioshi is my WS ).
I'm online Saturdays on virtue =) But I have a LOT of characters I rotate through.
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And the weird thing was....when i got onthe trial team....there was a stalker there...and they switched out to a Blaster.....=O_O=....
Then i switched over to Guardian for some KPF action.
Nah, he directed it to me for no reason, I never said anything about end management but he's a troll, implying I said Disrupt was awesome and all when all I did was ask about the power.
But Stalkers are end friendly, you might have yours slotted for low endred. Even if you attack nonstop, a scrapper or a Brute will almost always use more end, since they have taunt/damage auras, more AoEs and draw more aggro. I only had some problems with my EM/Nin when I was on SOs and slotted ET and TF with acc+dmg only because I wanted them to hit like a truck and I didn't have slots for endred when she was leveling, but nothing major, my BR/Traps and ice/time corrs have to eat blues fairly often even with SOs and endreds, as my WM/EA Brute (WM is an endhog btw). Even my Elec/Regen never had end issues and Elec is 'the AoE set' for Stalkers. And I wasn't the Stalker you mentioned, on Freedom I only have an Elec/Ea blueside that's my namesake (well he's Kyioshi, Kioshi is my WS ). |
I was playing a claws/willpower stalker at that time....
>_>...ok i admit it.....for whatever reason i was given server trasfer things....so i thought what the heck....migrate around a few characters for fun to see what other servers where doing with stalkers...
I just never see that one thing some people have said about people not wanting to take them becasue they where a Stalker...
And that has only ever happened to me kind of once...and that was because the Group literally had not one support character and the team leader thought on the Tin Mage Trial it might be a good idea if I could play something that had some heal powers.
Ohh i thought it might have been you...becasue Passive asked me if I was Psychic Kitty onthe forums....and kept saying I shouldnt be having endurence problems....and said the same thing about running a DM/EA stalker all the way to 50 with out using Stamina.
I was playing a claws/willpower stalker at that time.... >_>...ok i admit it.....for whatever reason i was given server trasfer things....so i thought what the heck....migrate around a few characters for fun to see what other servers where doing with stalkers... I just never see that one thing some people have said about people not wanting to take them becasue they where a Stalker... And that has only ever happened to me kind of once...and that was because the Group literally had not one support character and the team leader thought on the Tin Mage Trial it might be a good idea if I could play something that had some heal powers. |
Also the really end hungry attack sets aren't present on Stalkers - War Mace, Stone Melee, well maybe BS is but I haven't played it. And some sets that are a bit end-hungry on Scrappers like Spines lose the damage aura so they're more manageable. I think Elec Melee is the worst of them (JL, CI, TS in an attack chain can hurt the blue bar since they have AoE costs) but it's nothing like Super Strength or Stone Melee (yeah I said Stone Melee twice, it's that bad, although I love the set )
IA has Icy Bastion, which really a lot of people discount and far more important to reduce the recharge on than Hoarfrost.
Regen stalkers are hurt the most because of the low HP caps.
I have two EA builds:
The currrent one which has 50%+ Defense to all but Negative (45%) and Psi (reduced a bit with 20% ranged defense and a luck). And has 117.5% global recharge (I dropped hasten once Spirtual Alpha T4 was obtained). This build can perma Double stack Energy Drain to get to or near the Incarnate softcap.
This build does not have overload, because 1) I can incarnate softcap my defense already. 2) My HP is capped due to accolades and set bonuses.
I should mention I have quite a bit of Regeneration due to set bonuses+ Perma Energize too.
My fallback build: is the same exact build as above, but with 107.5% recharge, and the inclusion of Overload ( I also have to shift from Pyre Mastery to Mu Mastery, but my theme can handle this). I have pretty damn incredible UP/Down ratio on overload and guess what? NO CRASH due to accolade powers.
I solo this stalker at +2x8 for normal play, but I can handle +4x8 no problem.
I am very happy with it.
I really hope Ice Armor works out for you, but you seem to be selling it based on what you think or feel. I have built a fully purpled out KM/IA toon during beta, and while I was quite happy with what I could do with it, there ARE major decisions that have to be made: Softcap vs Recharge bonuses for one.
I didn't have mids so I am sure I could do better, but it is extremely hard to get that magic 30 Up/90 down time on Icy Bastion.
EDIT: Oh Energy drain does sap pretty much as well as elec armor stalkers sap.... but you hate elec armor stalkers too don't you (even though they can be built to be very survivable).
When something good happens to me, I can never enjoy it....
I am always too busy looking for the inevitable punchline...
BEHOLD THE POWER OF CHEESE!