Star Wars Editing Part Deux - "Nooo!"
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Posted on: 2011-08-31 16:03 in Comic and Hero-Villain Culture
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Fair enough. But it's at least reasonable to say that the overall success of the Star Wars movies led to the initial success of those other bits of his production empire. He's not ever going to cut off the head even if the rest of the body has gotten huge over the years.|
Originally Posted by mousedroid
While it's true that GL stands to make a pile o' cash off the latest re-release of the Star Wars movies, I wouldn't really consider the movies themelves his cash cow. I think ILM and his other technical endevours are what are truely making/kepping him rich these days.
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Originally Posted by mousedroid
Yes, the SW franchise is a license to print money, but I think he needs to move on to new things rather than continually rehashing the old. Enough with the Blu-Ray dvds and the 3D movie re-releases. Get off your butt, George, and give us the live action SW TV show you've been talking about for the last six years!
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Originally Posted by mousedroid
For the record, despite being a huge SW fan, I have no plans to buy these new videos, not will I probably see the PT films in 3-D when they come out.
As for why people are mad at/hate GL for tweaking the OT movies - it's because he's messing with their childhood. Han shooting first was one of the most bad-*** things my 10 y.o. eyes had ever seen, so 20 years later when he decided Greedo shot first, he peed on that memory of mine. Though honestly, these latest changes... *shrug* I have my theatrical versions of the OT on dvd, so if he really does want to make Vader pink next year, I won't care. |
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The site Save Star Wars has brought up some powerful testimony against Lucas's 2011 project, from George Lucas in 1988, when he appeared before Congress to decry the colorization of classic black-and-white movies by Turner Entertainment.
It's a well-reasoned, impassioned, but lengthy speech, so here's the first portion:
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Lucas probably feels that since he's both the creator and copyright holder, he doesn't have to worry about holding the Star Wars films "in trust". Since his testimony failed to move Congress back then, he now doesn't have to worry about any US copyright laws on the books regarding moral rights, so he doesn't have to worry about what his collaborators on those movies may think. So, James Earl Jones can't have any say, figuratively, in what Darth Vader now does: "NOOOOOOOO!!!!"|
My name is George Lucas. I am a writer, director, and producer of motion pictures and Chairman of the Board of Lucasfilm Ltd., a multi-faceted entertainment corporation. I am not here today as a writer-director, or as a producer, or as the chairman of a corporation. I've come as a citizen of what I believe to be a great society that is in need of a moral anchor to help define and protect its intellectual and cultural heritage. It is not being protected. The destruction of our film heritage, which is the focus of concern today, is only the tip of the iceberg. American law does not protect our painters, sculptors, recording artists, authors, or filmmakers from having their lifework distorted, and their reputation ruined. If something is not done now to clearly state the moral rights of artists, current and future technologies will alter, mutilate, and destroy for future generations the subtle human truths and highest human feeling that talented individuals within our society have created. A copyright is held in trust by its owner until it ultimately reverts to public domain. American works of art belong to the American public; they are part of our cultural history. People who alter or destroy works of art and our cultural heritage for profit or as an exercise of power are barbarians, and if the laws of the United States continue to condone this behavior, history will surely classify us as a barbaric society. The preservation of our cultural heritage may not seem to be as politically sensitive an issue as "when life begins" or "when it should be appropriately terminated," but it is important because it goes to the heart of what sets mankind apart. Creative expression is at the core of our humanness. Art is a distinctly human endeavor. We must have respect for it if we are to have any respect for the human race. These current defacements are just the beginning. Today, engineers with their computers can add color to black-and-white movies, change the soundtrack, speed up the pace, and add or subtract material to the philosophical tastes of the copyright holder. Tomorrow, more advanced technology will be able to replace actors with "fresher faces," or alter dialogue and change the movement of the actor's lips to match. It will soon be possible to create a new "original" negative with whatever changes or alterations the copyright holder of the moment desires. The copyright holders, so far, have not been completely diligent in preserving the original negatives of films they control. In order to reconstruct old negatives, many archivists have had to go to Eastern bloc countries where American films have been better preserved. In the future it will become even easier for old negatives to become lost and be "replaced" by new altered negatives. This would be a great loss to our society. Our cultural history must not be allowed to be rewritten. |
Every time someone suggests that it's not worth getting worked up about the things geeks love - comics, sci-fi, cartoons - I try to remind that whatever the aesthetic value of them, they have cultural significance that will make an impact beyond the their niche pop appeal.
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And I say anyone who talks like him in what you quoted doesn't know history or understand the creative process...
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Originally Posted by TrueGentleman
The site Save Star Wars has brought up some powerful testimony against Lucas's 2011 project, from George Lucas in 1988, when he appeared before Congress to decry the colorization of classic black-and-white movies by Turner Entertainment.
It's a well-reasoned, impassioned, but lengthy speech, so here's the first portion: Lucas probably feels that since he's both the creator and copyright holder, he doesn't have to worry about holding the Star Wars films "in trust". Since his testimony failed to move Congress back then, he now doesn't have to worry about any US copyright laws on the books regarding moral rights, so he doesn't have to worry about what his collaborators on those movies may think. So, James Earl Jones can't have any say, figuratively, in what Darth Vader now does: "NOOOOOOOO!!!!" Every time someone suggests that it's not worth getting worked up about the things geeks love - comics, sci-fi, cartoons - I try to remind that whatever the aesthetic value of them, they have cultural significance that will make an impact beyond the their niche pop appeal. |
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It's incredible to think he had such high regard for the integrity of other people's work yet he doesn't seem to consider his own historical work worthy of that same protection from "tinkering". Hypocrisy such as this rarely comes sweeter.|
Originally Posted by TrueGentleman
The site Save Star Wars has brought up some powerful testimony against Lucas's 2011 project, from George Lucas in 1988, when he appeared before Congress to decry the colorization of classic black-and-white movies by Turner Entertainment.
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While he seemed to be against all that evil "technology" that would allow older films to be modified he himself has spearheaded the creation of much of that same evil technology. He's almost like those guys who create computer viruses who get so good at it they get jobs working for the anti-virus companies... in reverse.
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Funny, considering Star Wars will never, ever, ever, be allowed to enter the Public Domain. Much like essentially everything else that can make money.
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It's worse hypocrisy than that. When tinkering with Empire Strikes Back for DVD, Lucas didn't have a very high regard for the work of either its actual director, Irvin Kershner, or its veteran screenwriters, Leigh Brackett and Lawrence Kasdan. He presumably trumped them in his role as executive producer. The irony that Lucas would do exactly what he predicted, e.g. altering dialogue in Empire and replacing Sebastian Shaw with the "fresher" Hayden Christensen at the end of Jedi, is pretty rank, though.|
Originally Posted by Lothic
It's incredible to think he had such high regard for the integrity of other people's work yet he doesn't seem to consider his own historical work worthy of that same protection from "tinkering". Hypocrisy such as this rarely comes sweeter.
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Perhaps he felt that if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.
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Originally Posted by Clouded
I grew up with Star Wars (star wars toys everywhere, bed sheets...you name it) but I was also very active in many other activities. I was a geek-jock. I played many sports but also played many pen and paper games as well. It was a weird mix to be honest.
My point is, I don't freak out over changes to the OT. I find it weird that people associate any changes made to those movies correlates to infringing upon their childhood. Guess I just don't have that much emotion tied up into the original films. |
LOL, numerous times on friday nights, i had to run out of the boxing gym in a hurry to make it to the weekly D&D game i was in, sometimes not even changing out of the trunks before getting to my friends house. i can tell you, Boxing and D&D are NOT an accepted mix, by either side
. at least back then, geekdom has come quite a long way since then.
Oh yeah, that was the time that girl got her whatchamacallit stuck in that guys dooblickitz and then what his name did that thing with the lizards and it cleared right up.
screw your joke, i want "FREEM"
This is not a site I frequent but I stumbled onto this & thought it might add to the silliness of the thread..
Other 'Star Wars' Blu-Ray Changes George Lucas Could Make:
Chewbacca Now Has Pants
Princess Leia Is Blonde
The Sarlaac Now Has Googly Eyes
Harrison Ford Has His Earring
Lightsabers Are Now Croquet Mallets
Jabba The Hutt Wears A Hat
Jabba needs a monocle.
Also, C-3PO needs to wear a top hat and monocle. In fact, monocles for everyone!
Also, there's one more edit you might wanna see.
what is that i don't even
that's hilarious!!!!
My point is, I don't freak out over changes to the OT. I find it weird that people associate any changes made to those movies correlates to infringing upon their childhood. Guess I just don't have that much emotion tied up into the original films.