Thanks. I only have an hour before I'm done with work and now the anticipation is killing me 
Edit: balls, I have to go out with the in-laws tonight to pick up a rocking chair for the nursery Of all the days.
Chad Gulzow-Man asked Second Measure about Kheldians at SDCC for me, and he told Chad that they were looking at them, but not to expect anything until I22. I'm gathering that more may be coming from that and other things, but I was surprised to learn there was... stuff... in I21 beta for Kheldians to check out. 
Guide: Tanking, Wall of Fire Style (Updated for I19!), and the Four Rules of Tanking
Story Arc: Belated Justice, #88003
Synopsis: Explore the fine line between justice and vengeance as you help a hero of Talos Island bring his friend's murderer to justice.
Grey Pilgrim: Fire/Fire Tanker (50), Victory
Ahh! I am still downloading the beta patch. I must know now, oh wise Pilgrim.
If they made the beta forums viewable for you all, you can see what the... stuff is. There is a thread in the discussion forums for them, so if you can see them, go there and discuss them. 
Guide: Tanking, Wall of Fire Style (Updated for I19!), and the Four Rules of Tanking
Story Arc: Belated Justice, #88003
Synopsis: Explore the fine line between justice and vengeance as you help a hero of Talos Island bring his friend's murderer to justice.
Grey Pilgrim: Fire/Fire Tanker (50), Victory
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Originally Posted by Grey Pilgrim
If they made the beta forums viewable for you all, you can see what the... stuff is. There is a thread in the discussion forums for them, so if you can see them, go there and discuss them.
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I found it
Today is a glorious day.
I am well and truly surprised...and anxious...and pissed cause it WONT LET ME PLAY MY PB!
*Bangs on store* LET! ME! PLAY! MY! PB!
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Originally Posted by Zenyth
I am well and truly surprised...and anxious...and pissed cause it WONT LET ME PLAY MY PB!
*Bangs on store* LET! ME! PLAY! MY! PB! |
At least your beta patch isn't stuck at 1%
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I really hope so, these are some great changes but there still is abit more that needs to be done. |
Originally Posted by Grey Pilgrim
Chad Gulzow-Man asked Second Measure about Kheldians at SDCC for me, and he told Chad that they were looking at them, but not to expect anything until I22. I'm gathering that more may be coming from that and other things, but I was surprised to learn there was... stuff... in I21 beta for Kheldians to check out.
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but for the moment at hand, bravo for listening devs.
Positron's i13 letter: We are trying to make PvP more accessible to new players, while giving experienced PvP'ers the advantage that comes with formulating tactics around the new systems we're putting in place. PvP from now on will be on our priority list. If something isn't working out, we'll be in there tweaking it and making it work, for the entire future of the product, not just Issue 13.
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Well, they see the VIP beta, so it'd be separate from Closed beta, the way they normally do things. Which is good, cuts down on possible confusion.
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Originally Posted by Grey Pilgrim
If they made the beta forums viewable for you all, you can see what the... stuff is. There is a thread in the discussion forums for them, so if you can see them, go there and discuss them.
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Be sure to test changes and state what you think of them, and if you think more are needed, state why. The devs are listening (FYI, Arbiter Hawk is the guy who is in charge of these changes), so now is the time to speak.|
Originally Posted by PC_guy
I really hope so, these are some great changes but there still is abit more that needs to be done.
but for the moment at hand, bravo for listening devs. |
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Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill
Well, they see the VIP beta, so it'd be separate from Closed beta, the way they normally do things. Which is good, cuts down on possible confusion.
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Guide: Tanking, Wall of Fire Style (Updated for I19!), and the Four Rules of Tanking
Story Arc: Belated Justice, #88003
Synopsis: Explore the fine line between justice and vengeance as you help a hero of Talos Island bring his friend's murderer to justice.
Grey Pilgrim: Fire/Fire Tanker (50), Victory
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if only i could get on beta. | Be sure to test changes and state what you think of them, and if you think more are needed, state why. The devs are listening (FYI, Arbiter Hawk is the guy who is in charge of these changes), so now is the time to speak. |
blasted mac client >:O
Positron's i13 letter: We are trying to make PvP more accessible to new players, while giving experienced PvP'ers the advantage that comes with formulating tactics around the new systems we're putting in place. PvP from now on will be on our priority list. If something isn't working out, we'll be in there tweaking it and making it work, for the entire future of the product, not just Issue 13.
Arbiter Hawk has said they haven't made all the changes to animations that they want, and that he's going to be keeping an eye on Kheldians for the near future. So give feedback when and as you can.
Guide: Tanking, Wall of Fire Style (Updated for I19!), and the Four Rules of Tanking
Story Arc: Belated Justice, #88003
Synopsis: Explore the fine line between justice and vengeance as you help a hero of Talos Island bring his friend's murderer to justice.
Grey Pilgrim: Fire/Fire Tanker (50), Victory
I'll edited this out myself then.
If you have VIP beta access, go read it. There are quite a bit of changes. I actually didn't know they were going to do all those before issue 21.
What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.
I may have to start playing my Peacebringer again 
Those are words I never thought I would seriously say.
Looks very nice to me. They do listen some.
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Originally Posted by Jibikao
Holy !@#$#!
Am I allowed to copy and paste the patch note for all the Kheldian changes? There are A LOT of changes for kheldian. |
What we have here is enough of a hint for anyone not a current subscriber anyway.
Guide: Tanking, Wall of Fire Style (Updated for I19!), and the Four Rules of Tanking
Story Arc: Belated Justice, #88003
Synopsis: Explore the fine line between justice and vengeance as you help a hero of Talos Island bring his friend's murderer to justice.
Grey Pilgrim: Fire/Fire Tanker (50), Victory
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I didn't notice any NDA going into the Open-ish VIP Beta.
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Originally Posted by Grey Pilgrim
If they're current subscribers, they can get into the VIP Beta forums. People not subscribed currently can see this forum, so posting the changes here would violate the NDA, as I understand it. I'd probably even edit your first post (it's why I kept saying... stuff earlier).
What we have here is enough of a hint for anyone not a current subscriber anyway. |
Goodbye may seem forever
Farewell is like the end
But in my heart's the memory
And there you'll always be
-- The Fox and the Hound
There isnt one >.> no clue why all the secrecy.
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I kinda figured. I was wondering why there isn't more talkings about all the new changes.
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If they're current subscribers, they can get into the VIP Beta forums. People not subscribed currently can see this forum, so posting the changes here would violate the NDA, as I understand it. I'd probably even edit your first post (it's why I kept saying... stuff earlier).
What we have here is enough of a hint for anyone not a current subscriber anyway. |
What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.
I tried logging into my WS in Beta, only to find it was locked. 
So much for that.
Mmmm, there's a lot of discussions on the new changes in Regeneration under Scrapper forum. They even list out the exact numbers.
I can understand not revealing things about new sets like Time, Street and Beam but Kheldian isn't "new".
We really can't post the Kheldian changes here? I mean seriously, how many of you can't see the patch notes in VIP forum?
I want to hear your reactions on Peacebringer. :P
What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.
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Originally Posted by Jibikao
Mmmm, there's a lot of discussions on the new changes in Regeneration under Scrapper forum. They even list out the exact numbers.
I can understand not revealing things about new sets like Time, Street and Beam but Kheldian isn't "new". We really can't post the Kheldian changes here? I mean seriously, how many of you can't see the patch notes in VIP forum? I want to hear your reactions on Peacebringer. :P |
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Warshades
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Discuss.
Has anyone tried the New Solar Flare while in the Air above a Spawn? Can you get high enough that you KB them down into the ground without scattering them?
Also, lovin' the changes to Light Form (I know, lots liked it, but I hated the Glowing Fuzzball). BuildUp -> Inner Light and Photon Seekers changes look nice too. My PB will be coming out of retirement for a bit to check these out.
Anyone who's been looking at the open beta forums today knows I'm not a fan of these changes, but here at least is how they pan out on the ol' handy-dandy spreadsheets:
There were some problems with the math on my former spreadsheets, which have now been corrected on these:
Peacebringer Analysis
Warshade Analysis
The formulae for my calculations are located at the top of each page where relevant, and you can copy/paste the build in the note of the yellow box at the top marked... "BUILD" for a peek at the SO builds I used.
Here's the rundown:
Peacebringers
Single Target DPS Potential:
Human: 117
Dwarf: 82
Nova: 101
AoE DPS Potential:
Human: 170
Dwarf: 137
Nova: 196
Max Survivable DPS:
Human: 165
Dwarf: 331
Nova: 106
Fatal Burst:
Human: 5387
Dwarf: 10773
Nova: 3859
Warshades
Single Target DPS Potential:
Human: 186
Dwarf: 196
Nova: 182
AoE DPS Potential:
Human: 264
Dwarf: 302
Nova: 383
Max Survivable DPS:
Human: 1 Foe=99 10 Foes=876
Dwarf: 1 Foe=345 10 Foes=1506
Nova: 1 Foe=82 10 Foes=868
Fatal Burst:
Human: 1 Foe=1772 10 Foes=3981
Dwarf: 1 Foe=6476 10 Foes=9169
Nova: 1 Foe=1478 10 Foes=3941
So... yeah. There they are.
EDIT - changed the nova damage potential to the corrected figures. Wish my math were stronger from the gate.
The Scrappers' Guide to Dark Melee | Kheldian Binds and Strategies
You should... ummm... totally check out the VIP Beta. There are some things you should check out there. Don't get up your expectations until you get there, but do check them out. It will be worth your while.
Arbiter Hawk said it was okay to say this and not an NDA issue with the VIP Beta, so I'm hoping that was enough. I'm assuming any chatter about... stuff... should be in the beta forums, however. Just wanted to let Kheldian types know they should check... stuff... out.
Guide: Tanking, Wall of Fire Style (Updated for I19!), and the Four Rules of Tanking
Story Arc: Belated Justice, #88003
Synopsis: Explore the fine line between justice and vengeance as you help a hero of Talos Island bring his friend's murderer to justice.
Grey Pilgrim: Fire/Fire Tanker (50), Victory