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@Positron_CoH: I was reading Paragon Wiki... Where in CoH do we give the impression that Back Alley Brawler is a member of the Freedom Phalanx? (he's not)
I tweeted Matt that "people assume" but if there IS someplace where he's specifically stated to be in the Phalanx, it's probably a good idea to point it out.


 

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I removed it from his page and replaced it with Regulators, which is the group he formed in the 70s.


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I removed it from his page and replaced it with Regulators, which is the group he formed in the 70s.
The Regulators may not exist anymore. But that's something else that may have been an assumed fact, I don't know.

As long as you're at it, take a look at the Wiki's page for the Regulators. Scroll down to the "Present Day" section, which states that BAB has become a member of the Freedom Phalanx, and that the Regulators are believed to be dead or disbanded by now.

The post here summed up my thoughts on BAB's super group status, until now that is. I stand corrected (along with a few other people). Thanks for the detective work, Riptide.

It's better to know, I guess....


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I tweeted Matt that "people assume" but if there IS someplace where he's specifically stated to be in the Phalanx, it's probably a good idea to point it out.
It's assumed from here: http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Surviving_Eight

The rest of the Surviving 8 were all Freedom Phalanx members.

BaB's has also appeared in promotional art with the other Freedom Phalanx members, such as the recently stated Who Will Die promotional campaign.

There is also the Lord Recluse Strike Force where BaB's is one of the combatents, and the mission objective is to defeat "Statesman and the Freedom Phalanx... not "Statesman, the Freedom Phalanx, and the Remaining Regulator: http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Lord_Rec...reedom_Phalanx

For the same promotional reasons, Miss Liberty is also commonly lumped in with the Freedom Phalanx as she is Statesman's Sidekick, despite her own affiliation being The Vindicators.


 

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I would not be surprised if the Rednames assumed that with BaB being a trainer that it would be "obvious" that he's not a Phalanxer. Only associates are trainers. The Phalanx hands out task forces.


 

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It's assumed from here: http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Surviving_Eight

The rest of the Surviving 8 were all Freedom Phalanx members.

BaB's has also appeared in promotional art with the other Freedom Phalanx members, such as the recently stated Who Will Die promotional campaign.

There is also the Lord Recluse Strike Force where BaB's is one of the combatents, and the mission objective is to defeat "Statesman and the Freedom Phalanx... not "Statesman, the Freedom Phalanx, and the Remaining Regulator: http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Lord_Rec...reedom_Phalanx

For the same promotional reasons, Miss Liberty is also commonly lumped in with the Freedom Phalanx as she is Statesman's Sidekick, despite her own affiliation being The Vindicators.

He's never in the comics with the rest of Phalanx, J.


 

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Bring back The Regulators, I say.

They're as relevant today as they were back in the 70s and 80s.

Especially now there's the potential of Praetorian 'dyne' flooding the streets. I mean, we can jump backwards and forwards between the zones as PCs - who's to say that a nefarious villain (such as a rejuvenated Samuel Frost) hasn't figured out a way to draw the substance over here?

EDIT: Also, isn't or wasn't Aurora Borealis affiliated with the Regulators?


 

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Just wanted to add that the subject for this thread isn't very descriptive, Riptide. "Confirmed: BAB not a Freedom Phalanx member" will get you more clicks.

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Especially now there's the potential of Praetorian 'dyne' flooding the streets. I mean, we can jump backwards and forwards between the zones as PCs - who's to say that a nefarious villain (such as a rejuvenated Samuel Frost) hasn't figured out a way to draw the substance over here?
Interesting thought. What are the differences between the two forms of dyne?


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Bring back The Regulators, I say.

They're as relevant today as they were back in the 70s and 80s.

Especially now there's the potential of Praetorian 'dyne' flooding the streets. I mean, we can jump backwards and forwards between the zones as PCs - who's to say that a nefarious villain (such as a rejuvenated Samuel Frost) hasn't figured out a way to draw the substance over here?
Isn't Fixadyne a good thing on Earth?


 

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CoH comic perhaps?

If BAB isn't in the FP, who ARE the surviving eight?


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He's never in the comics with the rest of Phalanx, J.
so?

Sales of the comic weren't exactly... "great" if I remember.

I don't know what the download numbers on the comics are either, could be low or could be high.

Keep in mind that a good number of people who play CoH don't read the comics... and there are good number of new players in the game today that don't know those comics are available on the web-site to download and read.


 

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In the "Brawling with the Big Boys" arc from Crimson Revenant, the overview/first mission briefing reads:

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Arachnos has learned that a member of the Freedom Phalanx is visiting Crimson Cove. Naturally, this can't be allowed to happen. Arachnos could give the job to their own Operative Rutger, but they know this one has to succeed. So, wisely, they have come to me. And, knowing your talents, I have come to you. Together, we can take out the Back Alley Brawler.
The Longbow in the base talk about being excited to meet BAB, so he must be the visiting Phalanx member, right? There's no mention of any other signature characters in the arc.

Then again, the souvenir for the arc is Back Alley Brawler's mask. I see shades. But I don't see a mask as part of his costume... unless the final mission has him in an alternate costume.


 

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I think the assumption is because BaB is one of the "Surviving Eight". Why he is, exactly, isn't really clear. There are plenty of other heroes who survived the Rikti war other than them, so it's not as simple as the only eight who survived the war. So it's easy to assume that he has some sort of affiliation with the Phalanx... maybe as a partial or reserve member, or something... Otherwise, what makes him so special?


 

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so?

Sales of the comic weren't exactly... "great" if I remember.

I don't know what the downloads of the comics are.

Keep in mind that a good number of people who play CoH don't read the comics... and there are good number of new players in the game today that don't know those comics are available on the web-site to download and read.
Well, to every fan's credit, this really depends on who you run with in-game. On Virtue, even many of the most light-hearted RPers I know read and loved the comics. I know this because the subject comes up every so often while discussing the lore. Over a nice cup of tea, of course. /emote teabag.


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In the "Brawling with the Big Boys" arc from Crimson Revenant, the overview/first mission briefing reads:The Longbow in the base talk about being excited to meet BAB, so he must be the visiting Phalanx member, right? There's no mention of any other signature characters in the arc.

Then again, the souvenir for the arc is Back Alley Brawler's mask. I see shades. But I don't see a mask as part of his costume... unless the final mission has him in an alternate costume.
Man, even Arachnos is confused!


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Just wanted to add that the subject for this thread isn't very descriptive, Riptide. "Confirmed: BAB not a Freedom Phalanx member" will get you more clicks.
Oh, I know, but after having a discussion with GoldenGirl over the topic just recently, that was my initial reaction to the "news". :-p

Is there a way to change a thread topic header?


 

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Man, even Arachnos is confused!
Heh. I want video you telling Dr. Aeon you need either Retcon's or story corrections :P


 

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I think the assumption is because BaB is one of the "Surviving Eight". Why he is, exactly, isn't really clear. There are plenty of other heroes who survived the Rikti war other than them, so it's not as simple as the only eight who survived the war. So it's easy to assume that he has some sort of affiliation with the Phalanx... maybe as a partial or reserve member, or something... Otherwise, what makes him so special?
Aren't the Surviving Eight the only supers from the Alpha Team that survived while maintaining full use of their body/powers (see: Horatio)?


 

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Man, even Arachnos is confused!
Longbow counter-intelligence at its best.


 

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Then again, the souvenir for the arc is Back Alley Brawler's mask. I see shades. But I don't see a mask as part of his costume... unless the final mission has him in an alternate costume.
*handwave*

Must be his "golden age" costume! See comic issue, uh, 7, I think it is. The first of the BaB/Manticore,Sr. <-> Protean <-> BaB/Manticore,Jr. triptych.

On another note, I wonder how Justin Sinclair reacts when someone calls him "Junior"?


 

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It's assumed from here: http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Surviving_Eight

The rest of the Surviving 8 were all Freedom Phalanx members.

BaB's has also appeared in promotional art with the other Freedom Phalanx members, such as the recently stated Who Will Die promotional campaign.

There is also the Lord Recluse Strike Force where BaB's is one of the combatents, and the mission objective is to defeat "Statesman and the Freedom Phalanx... not "Statesman, the Freedom Phalanx, and the Remaining Regulator: http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Lord_Rec...reedom_Phalanx
This alone should be sufficient to establish that BAB is indeed and without question a member of the Freedom Phalanx. But there is also:

His comic book bio.

Or Crimson Revenant's arc.

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Arachnos has learned that a member of the Freedom Phalanx is visiting Crimson Cove. Naturally, this can't be allowed to happen. Arachnos could give the job to their own Operative Rutger, but they know this one has to succeed. So, wisely, they have come to me. And, knowing your talents, I have come to you. Together, we can take out the Back Alley Brawler.
Or Silos' arc where you have to rescue Phalanx and Vindicator members, and guess who's in that mix?


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*handwave*

Must be his "golden age" costume! See comic issue, uh, 7, I think it is. The first of the BaB/Manticore,Sr. <-> Protean <-> BaB/Manticore,Jr. triptych.

He carries his old mask in his pocket? O_o


 

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Well, your thread popped the question. But to Riptide's credit, only his thread features a response from a dev.

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Oh, I know, but after having a discussion with GoldenGirl over the topic just recently, that was my initial reaction to the "news". :-p

Is there a way to change a thread topic header?
No idea, all my subjects come out perfect the first time.


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