Improve Revive...
...and Resurgence!
With the new Immortal Recovery inspiration...OMG...these two powers are put to shame by an inspiration. |
Wow...great power... What are my ancillary pools again? Maybe I'll pick something more vital to my survival. Like Whirlwind...
At least with Rise of the Phoenix there's mitigation to get the enemies off you (Damage, KB). I'd like to see a couple seconds of untouchable/affects only self to allow you to at least START retoggling your defenses.
All other rezzes have damage, KB and/or some form of mez AND Untouchable status. These two NEED updating, stat.
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Yes, please. For a very long time I skipped Revive entirely because it's so useless. I took it recently as my level 50 pick, didn't put any slots in it, slapped a recharge in, and called it good...only because it saves me a hospital run every once in a while on iTrials.
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This was already true before the new inspirations hit town.
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Sooo...it's a bit different now imo anyways.
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Revive and Resurgence have sucked hard for years now. They're weak rez powers with very slow animations, they offer no real protection from being rekilled before you can respond AND they're bugged to where some characters can use inspirations and powers while rezzing and others can't, depending on the character model. Those two powers are garbage, and the veteran Return to Battle power has been putting them to shame ever since that came out. As a point of fact, a basic Awaken + Break Free + Green + Blue combo has always been about as effective as Revive, if your character model isn't bugged.
At the very least, these powers need to both heal more AND give a good, long period of untouchability. At least enough to have a couple of seconds spare after getting back to your feet, to either start the fight strong or leg it. Both powers are a disservice to the sets they appear in, and that's coming from a guy who LOVES self-rez powers like Rise of the Phoneis or Soul Transfer.
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I'll note, as the player of a Robots/Fire MM and a Fire/Fire Controller, Rise of the Phoenix also makes the target invulnerable for 60 seconds -- IN ADDITION to knockback+daze on enemies.
I love that power, it's so great.
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Ya know, i think all self-rezes, aside from inspirations, provided atleast 10 seconds of untouchable, regardless of what they do otherwise (Rise of the Phoenix does inferno level damage, massive amounts of KB, and makes you untouchable for a good 30+seconds.. and its in an epic power pool for more ATs...)
Ya know, i think all self-rezes, aside from inspirations, provided atleast 10 seconds of untouchable, regardless of what they do otherwise (Rise of the Phoenix does inferno level damage, massive amounts of KB, and makes you untouchable for a good 30+seconds.. and its in an epic power pool for more ATs...)
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Or are you saying that they SHOULD? Because then yes, I agree, all self-rezzes should include untouchable.
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Put me on board for looking at these powers.
Hell I'd even settle for them reverting or fixing whatever they did to demonic/eye of the archmagus that now leaves it grayed out until after the rezz animation is over. It never used to be that way, and I can't think of other powers that are like that. If Moment of Glory is up, I use that, but sometimes it's not.
I'm not sure what they should do to make this power better. Untouchable status would help, or even just a shortish duration terrorize (the enemies are shocked when your arm reattaches itself and you get up, sort of thing). Heck, even if it just forced all enemies in range to em puke because seeing you heal is kind of gross, I'd be ok with it.
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Hell I'd even settle for them reverting or fixing whatever they did to demonic/eye of the archmagus that now leaves it grayed out until after the rezz animation is over. It never used to be that way, and I can't think of other powers that are like that. If Moment of Glory is up, I use that, but sometimes it's not.
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Either way, it's bugged and needs to be re-examined. I've filed this as every kind of bug report I can think of, I've tried to bring it to David's attention, I've filed a Support ticket about it... We'll just have to see what becomes of it in the years to come.
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I agree that these powers need to be adjusted to not wiffle. My suggestion for Regen - Revive is that it has a 10 second Untouchable and causes an AoE Fear affect 10ft radius, 10 targets.
Think: Wolverine, after being killed(vaporized) by Nitro, rezzes from being a stripped clean skeleton. Nitro, while bragging on his cell phone about having just killed Wolverine so easily, freezes, dumbfounded as he sees a reflection in the window of his stolen SUV of Wolverine's regenerating fleshy-skeleton shambling towards him. This is what Revive should do for Regen.
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...and Resurgence!
With the new Immortal Recovery inspiration...OMG...these two powers are put to shame by an inspiration.
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