Fire/Invuln. Bad idea?

Here's my FM/Inv brute. Was getting 195dps on pylons pre incarnate stuff. Chain is Gloom - Incin - Crem - FS. Went FM because Fury on brutes boosts the DOT.

Extremely survivable. DM/INV is stronger but I have a DM/SD already.

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Let's just put it this way.... I got a scrapper lvl 50 that's fire//inv and I can out tank Tanks and still stay alive with small amount of dmg taken and maybe once and awhile I'll have to use Dull Pain but that's fine because my recharge is great that I even have Dull pain on perm And with just self buffs I'm at 46% with smashing and lethal Def if ii remember right and then I'm at 73.88 res to smashing and lethal and then everything else is in the high 30s can't remember off by heart but I know it's up there And I love his So fun so play Can drag him into ANYTHING and he can dish out dmg and staying alive parts all in one !!!!! So I'd say GOOOOO with that build it's great it can be strong with a cheap build and even strong with a more pricey build...... Duhh type of thing but had to say it JUSSSSST in case haha

But hopefully that helps and if u need I can post a build for you

I think sometimes that the game is so complex, offering so many choices, that some people adopt a simple strategy to narrow down their choices: "If I hear of even a potential weakness, a set is crap and I can save my attention for other sets."

So when these people read about the "psi hole" they automatically think "Ah, don't have to worry about learning anything more about THAT set. It's crap!"

Then when they talk to others, they tend to toss out that opinion without explaining the fairly superficial examination that lead to their arbitrary conclusion.

Invulnerability is awesome.

That said, I have some casual friends that played the set and found it lacking. As others have said, it's a late bloomer. Also, if a player doesn't know that the real strength of the set is Invincibility and how to capitalize the defense bonuses by stacking defense the set will seem squishy.

Ive been playing/Inv since I started playing this game 6 years ago. I can tell you that it is no where as bad as you may be hearing. Over all its one of my favorite armors. Just remember every set has a particular weakness. You maybe strong against one enemy group but struggle against another.

Invulnerability is awesome. The end.

Invuln is okay....and may be one of my favorite powers, but let's face it, invuln is no longer invuln. The hole in psi resistance/defense is to the point as such, that if you haven't put enough hard cash into it, you have trouble with EVERY mob, once you get passed the low levels...every mob has a psi or two. I think it more runs into the new additions to the mobs as opposed to the builds themselves. Sometimes it feels as if the additions are in direct opposition of older power sets so as to negate the ability. I get it, it makes it more challenging, but it is difficult to find a story thread or a "mob" (forgive my lack of terminology here) without psi or end drain once you get into the higher levels. If you dont have the cash yet, forget about 30 on up CoS, CoT, Freakshow...etc etc etc...even the stupid clockwork are all psi! LOL

With this said, am I complaining about the build? No, I have a lvl 50 invuln tank (I know we are talking scrappers but same hole) that fares very well...well, downright awesome, and due to my multiple lvl 50s, I have plenty of cash. I know the builds can work out, but, it shouldn't be that you only fight well if you can afford to. I am saying these are legitimate concerns made of not only invuln, but any of the older sets.

I keep reading "with minimal cash"...."with a little bit of cost".....define minimal. To a newer player it is quite different than to a 4-5 year veteran. Without assistance, MOST, not all, but MOST of my toons were barely millionaires. 2 million buys nothing at level 30, yet strong psi/end drain mobs start showing up. Minimal has a different meaning. Besides, enhancement sets were to be additions to ones set, not necessities.

I do not wish anyone to walk away from the builds, my point is that it may not be the builds, but if we close our eyes to the actual concerns, and our only rebuttal is "if you get enough purple enhancements" (okay, exaggerated, I admit), then maybe it needs to be looked at. Again, I dont think it is the builds, but that almost EVERY mob seems to have a psi..excluding the Council who are just easy marks! Psychic little robots...COME ON MAN! LOL

I wouldnt judge any set on its performance without getting at least into the mid 30s. Invuln is a very solid set with only one hole ( psionic ), which can easily be remedied by using purples.

I've never played invuln on a scrap, but my invuln tanker is very sturdy against most content.

Invul = Win
Fire= V Nice damage

togeather = ZomG

It's late with invul on scrappers as said but its an awesome combo...i had one ages ago and the only thing i hated about it was i wasnt a fan of fire melee...it lacked...shinny and seemed boring even tho the damage was nice.

if u have one..keep it and go for it at 50 and IO'd itll be insane

Invulnerability with IO's is a solid contender for strongest secondary for all melee characters after granite armor. At this point in time the gap between an IO'd /inv and a granite is pretty small for 99% of content in the game. Only the absolute most insanely demanding challenges would require a granite over an Inv and this is without buffs. With buffs Inv is right there.

My IO'd /inv brute has out tanked IO'd Fire/, WP/ tanks so far where I was in a solid team running an SF and could compare survivability. I have literally not been in a situation for a while now that I could not tank whatever any tanker can tank. This wouldn't be the case on SO's, but IO's and incarnates have changed the game completely.

I've also gone head to head with an uber ss/dark brute(+10 billion build) on my 5.5 billion Inv build and easily out survived him having superior defenses, defense debuff resist and higher hp.

Invulnerability is stupid awesome with IO's. I remember when IO's first came onto the scene and my SO's only brute felt a little weak. I remember feeling like my ss/ea and ss/ela brutes were tougher. Now it's not even a comparison. League's apart in performance.

Not to brag, but a couple nights ago I was thinking of the scrapper challenge which I had never done and decided to try it out. I could literally stand next to a pylon with a full group of lvl 54 rikti and never use a single insp.....indefinitely.

Not sure how that rates nowadays, but without using incarnates or insp I'd call that pretty damn good.

So Inv sucks?