Am i doing this right,or is there a better way?

By what the title says i mean i'm trying to gain a vast amount of influence before the end of the month. Why so? For two reasons mainly.
The first one is that i will be on vacation during august,and i would like to have finished slotting my main characters for that period,so i can relax,play and enjoy them to the fullest. The second is that i find the process of making money very boring and tiresome,i would like to amass a large amount of inf/resources now and then be done with it forever,so i can return to my normal playing without having to worry about money ever again.
Slotting my mains is going to cost a lot,i've already bought a couple of pvp recipes,but i still need some purples and hopefully,if i can afford it,a panacea proc.
I've read some guides here on the forum. For what i've been able to discern,the fastest ways to make inf revolve around playing the market,farming,and doing hero tips for aligment merits.
Now,playing the market isn't for me,if that was the only way i'd renounce the idea of slotting purples altogether. it's simply more than i can bear,i cannot do it. So said option is out.
As for farming,i've tried using a level 50 fire brute on x8 maps hoping for purple drops,wich in the end didn't seem a very good method. In 2 days the drop rate was around one purple every 3 hours if i was lucky,and even then most of the time it was a sleep or confusion recipe worth nothing more than 40-60 million. So i dropped the idea.
Currently i'm farming AE tickets. It takes 15 minutes to make 7500 tickets,wich then i roll for 15-19 bronzes. I usually end up with 7-8 good recipes (reactive armors,steadfast res/def and an occasional rectified reticle) sometimes more,but i'm taking 7 for an example for my calculations. (i used to roll 30-34 bronzes,but in the end the 15-19 range seems more stable and rewarding to me).
If i'm slow,farming for tickets,gaining salvage,crafting and selling takes 45 minutes. The stuff i put on WW sells for 20-30 million apiece,so in the end i usually gain 130 million minimum for 45 minutes of work,sometimes i can go up to almost 200 million.
Then,hero merits. I can,on average,do 5 tips in 30 minutes (including the time it takes to actually gain the first tips when i don't have none to begin with,wich is very annoying).
Doing that with 3 characters,i end up with 3 merits in 2 days for 3 hours of work.Double that amount and it's 6 merits wich i can use for buying 3 valuable pieces like,say,the famous LoTG+recharge or miracle+recovery. Supposing i can sell for 200 million each (wich is not always the case) i end up with 600 million for six hours,obviously meaning 100 million per hour.
Considering all i've said,the best inf per hour ratio seems to be farming AE,and that's what i'm doing now. But i'm pretty sure there are people capable of doing better,and so here is what this post is all about:seeking advice on how to improve my performance if possible,or to chase better,alternate routes of doing what i'm doing wich i might have overlooked,since i'm not an expert at either farming or grinding. I appreciate any kind of help you can lend me

Those are pretty darn impressive rates-per-hour.

When I'm making inf other than marketing, it's usually by running task forces (or Ouroing) and converting reward merits to hero merits. You will make less money slower but you're doing something you'd probably do anyway. If you don't have Task Force Commander [blueside] that's 5% more HP you should be getting anyway...

I dont think i believe these numbers hes posted.

7500 tickets? in 15 mins? Just the resetting and cashing in and deleting takes longer.

Also the one purp every 3 runs. What are you running and if its purples you want how is that less efficient. Than buying them. You are getting them as a drop for free.

Also you dont like to market but what the hell are you doing with your ae tickets sir.

Not sure what your looking for but you sir are a farmer, marketer, and a grinder. Like it or not thats what you are doin.

I didn't say i wasn't. Indeed i am. I only hope to be done with this quickly,but i'm not hiding what i do.
As for the numbers: doing one of the thousand fire farms out there,you can reach the ticket cap for the map by killing a few spawns of enemies,wich takes 3 minutes with a SS/fire brute (i'm doing an one hour timed farm and between entering,killing,and exiting,i'm always out before the timer reaches 56 minutes remaining. So i guess i should say it takes 4 minutes per run.). The 15-20 minutes are for getting the tickets only,the process of converting them to recipes,salvage,crafting and selling is what takes another half an hour.
As for the purples i think you've misunderstood me,i WISH it was one drop for three runs,it was one drop every three hours,if and when i was lucky. Wich i'm not not,usually.
I say it's not efficient because if you spend hours grinding and end up with a purple worth only 60 million,you could have gained a lot more by doing hero tips or farming. Compared to the other methods,it's slow.
I've heard people talking of more impressive numbers than mine,and since i wasn't sure what to think,i asked for advice. If you say i'm already going as fast as i could,than it's settled.

Regarding what Fulmens said: you are correct,and in fact i am converting all the reward merits i have amassed during the last months. I have been saving them since the alignment system began,so i have a fair amount of those. I'm working on all sides, from task forces to tips to *touchè* farming. Anyway,thanks for the help

Personally, i farm and sell my drops. I farm PI and AE for tix. In the past week, from saturday to saturday i got 13 purple drops by farming in PI on my elec/sd scrapper. If you are on Justice youve probably seen them in the JU chat. I didn't sell all of them and still made over 3 bill. Not counting teh commons i vendored or inf from kills.

I don't market, other than just selling my drops. I could care less about flipping and the time spent doing that, i could be farming. But, with that said, if you do both, that's probably the fastest way to make inf. But every minute in WW, is less minutes getting tix or purps.

If you have 2 accounts, like i do, then in AE save tickets on one for silver and/or gold rolls on one toon and roll bronze on the other. You can make great inf in the 10-15 bronze rolls.

Another philosophical point: When you "relax, play, and enjoy them to the fullest" you are also making inf and getting shinies. Look up PumBumbler's post history to see what kind of money you can make while doing what you love.

You might want to leave a slot or two open "for whenever" [the Panacea proc, say.] At some point in August you will probably be able to fill it just through accidental revenue. Every time you go, "hey, purple, bonus!" or "When did I get another 50 merits?" you'll be that much closer to your stretch goals.

Am I telling you to give up early? Accept less than a perfect build? Maybe. But I'm also pointing out that you don't get that much more from the last couple slots of shininess and you're going to get there anyway. . . you can just start the fun part earlier my way. [figure a Panacea at around 1.8 billion, and a TF at ... maybe 50 million in cash and prizes, more if it's a L50- and you've got 36 TFs to go for the Panacea.]

Also if you're juuuuust short of 50 merits, remember that you get 5 merits for all the exploaration badges in a zone.

I have just one question, and perhaps I'm stupid and I don't get how the AE system works, but I was under the impression than "normal" AE missions that reward tickets do not reward recipe/salvage drops. Is that still true? If so, how are you getting purple drops within AE on these farm maps/arcs?

flipside: I had the impression that the OP had tried farming for purples (eg in Cimerrora) and, since that hadn't been profitable enough, had returned to the AE building.

Yes,i did that. Tried to do missions at +0x8 with a level 50 brute in peregrine island,and unai kemen arc. The results didn't seem impressive to me

I think you're doing it right. I've sampled all those methods and I still do a little of all of them now and again, and I found the most profitable were AE tickets for bronze rolls and craft-and-sell marketeering.

I personally don't like the ticket rolling as much because of the need to sift through the trash for the gems. It also takes a lot longer to go through one "cycle" of generating goods and listing them. I much prefer the relative predictability of marketeering, and the smaller time investment as well.

edit: By "longer" I should clarify that I mean it takes more active time to farm tickets, roll, pick out the good stuff, get salvage,craft, and list; compare to throw up bids for recipes and salvage, log out and do other stuff, come back and claim purchased items, craft, and list.

I see people making crazy ticket rates, I guess by doing these fire farms. However, those make me nervous and I dont have any characters that can do them. I have a simple fire/kinetics controller. I run either "real" battle maiden or else a clone of it I made. Nothing cheesy.

But I am slow compared to what I see here. I threebox an ae battle maiden (usually power leveling my alts) and I am slow so it takes me 30 minutes a run and I probably only generate 800 to 1200 tickets per character per run.

So for a slow dog like me, am I better off doine real battle maiden, ae battle maiden, or something else?

I would like to threebox five tip missions each night as well but I play tons of squishies and/or sucky builds and/or I am a fairly poor player anyway.

So vonsidering all that, what approach should I take? I am a bit tired of having high level characters but no cash to rub together to outfit any well.



Thanks,

Lewis

Time in game = time in game. What you choose to do is going to take time. If it's farming, flipping, AE farming, crafting recipes(which can be very profitable as i've seen some recipes sell as much as 15mil less than crafted or more) It all boils down to what you want to do with your game time. Do you want to play missions or make inf.

I'd rather farm in PI. I've outfitted 2 accounts with purple toons as well as very nicely IO'd toons. For someone to say they farm in PI at 0x8 and never get any purples, i call foul. I do, and know 2 others that farm more than they do missions and other stuff, and we generate plenty of purples and sit on more than 30-40bil inf. To say they don't get any is unbelieveable to me. Like i said before, i got 13 this past week by running 1-2 runs per day or about an hour a day.

Eryq2,

What missions do you farm in PI? I have battle maiden and maybe the demon farm. I havent done them in ages since ive become accustomed to the ae.

Should I switch back?

Lewis

For me marketing has made me alot of inf, at the moment I'm making 2-2.4 bil every 5 days and checking atleast 3 of them 5 days, not much compared to some people but all my 50s are io'ed so I'm a happy a chappy . Takes 45 mins to check all my toons though, if did purple farming, AE ticket farming as well I could make alot more. Johnny

I have shocked people with how ineffective I am. I was taking 1 to 2 hours to 3box 5 tip missions with 2 door sitters who could die for all I care. Because my softcapped fire/sr scrapper couldnt hang tough on -1x3 for some foe types. So pinnbadges (server global channel) had me post a build and thought it was decent. So a few of them followed me around in a mission. Nobody could quite figure out why I was slow. Someone felt sorry for me and gave me a crafted purple. I was a bit embarassed but it was a nice gesture. My first "pity purple".

Anyway, I threebox the battle maiden map but two are always door sitters. Maybe that is part of why I am slow. Maybe im doing a diff map tho. Its bm champions of war and such on that classic map but I average 1000 tickets a map and it takes me 30 minutes. Maybe 25.

I dunno.

Lewis

Uncle,

If I, an old, stubborn and not to informed guy can farm AE tickets with my blaster at the rate of about 9000 tickets per 30 minutes, you can too! Thats just me having fun with my blaster who I love.

You can make a ticket farmer in about 5 minutes. Make a claws/fire brute, only farm the lvl 1 missions.

As for the OP, maybe just a less lofty goal as Fulmens has suggested. Heck, on most teams, you can have SO's and be about as good as anyone. I think the power builds only really shine solo, teamed, shruggs. My one power build (nobody here would even begin to call it that) is my blaster who is ranged capped with a stealth proc and now two Force feedbacks. I built him for about 300mil, which seems crazy to me. I am sitting on close to 3 billion now and have no idea what to do with it. Im obsessed with cheap builds that are at near full effectiveness at lvl 25 now, so I farm for the recipes, because there are none for sale.

My biggest win yesterday during a farming session, was on a lark entering my first costume contest. A cool 25mil for honorable mention!

Oh, all my money is made just selling what I find or turn in tickets for. I dont bother crafting or even trying to make the highest possible. I have got burned a couple times, selling a recipe worth 15 million and getting 1k. Happened yesterday. lol.

Takes some special insanity to post your new found purple for 100. smile.

Hmm. I do already have a level 50 fire/sonic controller, and a level 50 firekin on each account. Ill try it but I do so love the double PL.

Thanks,

Lewis

What do you farm in PI ? Tips ? Radio mish ?