Debuff Resistance for /Regen

As it currently stands, /Regeneration is the only mitigation set in the game that has no native debuff resistance of any kind.

I propose it receive several buffs that will even it out with Willpower (which many people feel is what /Regen should have been in the first place)

I propose minor changes to 3 powers in Regeneration: Fast Healing, Resilience, and Revive.

Fast Healing: Willpower's version of Fast Healing has Regen Debuff Resistance built into it, while Regen's version does not, in spite of being exactly the same power in every other way. I suggest adding 40% regen debuff resistance to Regen's version of Fast Healing.

Resilience: I suggest adding an additional 20% regen debuff resistance and 20% slow resistance to Resilience. I also suggest spreading the damage resistance to all types except Psionic.

Revive: As it stands, Revive is the worst self-rez in the game. It has a long standing up animation, during which you can do nothing. All too often I find myself being defeated again as I am standing up. I eventually respecced out of the power, because in it's current form it is effectively useless. Any time I would like to use a self-rez, the enemy that killed me is still near me and agros on me as soon as I click the power.

I propose Revive and Resurgence both receive a 15 second untouchable status. Additionally, I propose that Revive receive the same buffs Resurgence has. Resurgence gives you a Recovery, ToHit, Damage, and Recharge buff upon rezzing. Revive should get the same buffs.

Another thing I would like to see is either increasing the duration of Moment of Glory by 5 seconds (from 15 to 20 seconds) -OR- decreasing the cast time of the power. I'd like to see both, but if I can only have one or the other, that would be fine.

Currently, Regeneration is the most susceptible to, and most hindered by debuffs, because any and all debuffs will affect it at full strength and duration. Regeneration debuffs will completely shut down part of Regen's mitigation, and -recharge debuffs effectively neuter the other part.

Since Regen gets no native defense other than MoG, and very little resistance, it is absolutely dependent on it's ability to heal back damage. If it's regeneration gets be debuffed down to nothing and it's recharge reduced to glacial speeds more than 70% of it's mitigation has been completely nullified.

No other set in the game is susceptible to having it's primary means of mitigation removed to the degree that Regeneration is. Defense based sets have defense debuff resistance built into them, and the more reliant the set is on defense, the more debuff resistance it gets. Resistance debuffs are resisted by resistance, so any resistance based set will automatically resist debuffs to it's primary mitigation. Regen alone out of all mitigation powersets gets no resistance to the two debuffs that are most crippling to it, and I believe that needs to be changed.

Regeneration debuff is the only way to stop regens in the first place. Otherwise, they're godmode. They need a nerf, not a buff. /unsigned

/Signed. I like my Kat/Regen, but the status quo is kind of annoying at times. Especially the self-Rez problem

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Originally Posted by Zwillinger GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.

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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

/signed.

I like the squishiness, and relying on fast reactions and tactics to survive. I don't mind faceplanting at all. But, it kinda does suck when I just can't survive in situations where my other meleers easily could.

Slap something tastier in Resilience so that it isn't so useless.

Well the 60-second recharge isn't the only buff I suggested. I think it would be a good thematic change because I don't think anyone comes back to life more in comics and beyond than people with regenerative powers. Sure, heroes and villains die all the time and come back in comics, but with regenerators it's never a big deal. It's like a normal activity for them, along with crashing through skylights, punching bad guys, and internal monologuing.

It'll help scrappers, but 1606 hit points is not hard to come by on a stalker. It just sort of happens from the accolades and the set bonuses you get trying for defense bonuses or the like.

I'm aware of Stalker's low HP caps, but health regeneration, healing, and max HP buffs are really the only things that would be thematic for Regeration. The only other thing I could think of would be -Resistance to healing (makes normal heals on the target heal for more), but I'm pretty sure that wouldn't help Regen much since Dull Pain and Reconstruction are both marked unresistable and wouldn't get the boost.

Totally agree with the suggestions. After playing my regen scrapper and stalker through the Incarnate content, especially the stalker, they feel very squishy. Add in the fact that so many of the attacks do -regen. I think lots of teh energy type blasts do, theres drain psy from the seers, the acus do some too dont they?
Cant agree more with teh statement about WP getting regen resistance in its fast healing, and regen not. Its utterly retarded. If anything, regen should have MORE resistance to regen debuffs. Maybe a small recovery resistance too? If your regeneration heatly so fast..kinda stands to reason the recovery is good too?
Also agree on the MoG thing..20 secs or shorter animation, its too long. And the rez...maybe have something like...You channel enegy through out yourself when defeated, increasing your regeneration enough to revive yourself and improve your regen for a time.' Efectively giving some kind of regen buff in the period after the rez?
Thinknig about Dull Pain of stalkers. The +hp aspect is a joke with stalker hp caps. How about making the cap extend for the duration of dull pain, say to 1800, giving an obvious benefit. OR..get rid of the hp hp entirely for stalkers, and shorten the recharge, so its just like a bigger heal, but useable more often?
Oh, and the guy saying regens are super tough..lol@him

I'm looking at the regen debuff resistance right now for scrappers on the creation screen and don't get me wrong, but 11.25% regeneration debuff resistance is just not enough. Integration and Resilience should get access to the same regen debuff resistance as well. Why not give some to Health from Fitness as well?

Invuln, Elec Armor, Fiery Aura, and Ice Armor get passives that grant resistance to slow and -recharge, yet Regen has no such resistance in any of it's passives, which really makes using the heal, DP, IH and even MoG more unreliable than they should be.

edit: I just looked at WP and you gotta be kidding me. Resistances, defense, and Regen? Nevermind that resurgence is actually cool and Revive is like, a large Wakie on a 5 minute cooldown.

My Katana/SR who has Aid Self and Elude sometimes uses the former when hit and has never used the latter. My Claws/Regen however pretty much struggles to even survive if the spawn has several hard hitters. Cim was a shining example of how even IH could be overcome with a few broadswords smacking you in the face almost all at once. Reconstruction, Dull Pain, Instant Healing, Moment of Glory and maybe Revive. 5 out of 9 powers that are heavily affected by -recharge, 4 of which are so crucial to survival that most Regens slot up for not just extra regen, but more global recharge reduction just to have a better shot at surviving. What's the overall most useful primary for Regen? Dark Melee, because it adds an extra self-heal in the form of Siphon Life and every hit adds tohit debuff, lessening the chance you'll get hit super hard, and Touch of Fear to take a nasty critter out of the fight. Not to better kill like a Brute or Scrapper, but just to help survive an encounter.

That is how much regens are suffering and anyone who says otherwise should be forced to level a */regen and go through the normal content with the occasional TF and not use IOs because sets throw off data for purposes of balancing. IO sets should not be required just to function as well as another secondary in the AT like SR or WP.