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/unsigned, unless its more than 5 years. People (included military) often take long breaks such as two years and still come back.
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Originally Posted by Dante
Okay, before I begin, this is not a Wah, I lost my global thread. This is, in my opinion, something that should have been done before Global Server Access was enabled. Simply put, run a check of the joint global database and flag any account that has been inactive for over two years, appending their global name with a designation marking the name as inactive. Also grant a global rename token to any names that have been changed since GSA went active and anyone flagged as inactive.
This would free up old, unused globals and give players affected by the merge to possibly reclaim names that they have had for years and were renamed due to a clash with old, inactive accounts. If a player returns after two years, they still have the opportunity to change their name. Although it could be argued that this is a not a vital service, it may go some way to fixing the mistakes made during the EU merger into the NA server cluster and might restore some sense of fairness to the whole process. |
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Anyone taking long breaks knows (or should know) that that is simply part and parcel. Heck, theres nothing to stop people from still subscribing and keeping all those juicy vet awards.
But why should an inactive, unpaid for account, trump that of someone who has never once let their sub lapse? How is that, in any way, shape or form, 'right'?
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Sorry to disagree with you A_F, but this is no different than the character name purge they have run twice in the past. Same rules should apply here that applys to them.|
Originally Posted by Aura_Familia
/unsigned, unless its more than 5 years. People (included military) often take long breaks such as two years and still come back.
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Besides money.
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Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
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Anyone taking long breaks knows (or should know) that that is simply part and parcel. Heck, theres nothing to stop people from still subscribing and keeping all those juicy vet awards. |
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
Sorry to disagree with you A_F, but this is no different than the character name purge they have run twice in the past. Same rules should apply here that applys to them.
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Now, purging the trials that haven't converted after 3 mo or something, sure.
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I'll leave the details like that to the people that actually work with the code. I wouldn't presume to think I knew how to do it.
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Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill
And how do they keep global names above level 6? If you have a character above 6 you're fine?
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/Signed
Anyone taking long breaks knows (or should know) that that is simply part and parcel. Heck, theres nothing to stop people from still subscribing and keeping all those juicy vet awards. But why should an inactive, unpaid for account, trump that of someone who has never once let their sub lapse? How is that, in any way, shape or form, 'right'? |
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
Sorry to disagree with you A_F, but this is no different than the character name purge they have run twice in the past. Same rules should apply here that applys to them.
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Whatever else rules of engagement were chosen, paying active accounts should have had been able to keep their globals instead of allowing inactive ones to keep them.
Therefore, I support this suggestion.
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Well, I'm all for this, although it should have been done before the merge, not after, but hey, better late than never.
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Not going to get many EU players disagreeing just now; count me as /signed too.
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Even though I wasn't affected (and I thought I would have been) I can't help but concur with this. Paying, active costumers should trump innactive, lapsed ones. It's like business 101.
Whatever else rules of engagement were chosen, paying active accounts should have had been able to keep their globals instead of allowing inactive ones to keep them. Therefore, I support this suggestion. |
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I may have misread this elsewhere but did the Trials not get sub-globalised under some form of "XX_Trial" or was that not in regards to @Globals?|
Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill
Now, purging the trials that haven't converted after 3 mo or something, sure. |
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True. This also means that people who haven't lapsed have paid more. So...why again is it right that people who have paid more can ever lose out to those who haven't? |
Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill
Besides money.
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That is flawed logic right there.
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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Not necessarily true. Someone who played for four years and has been gone one for whatever reason (military, school, etc.) has certainly paid more than the person who's been in just long enough to see their first shny vet reward.
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Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
True. This also means that people who haven't lapsed have paid more.
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This is the point, however. Say that the four year vet was an EU player. They get automatically shafted, no matter any other factors.|
Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill
Not necessarily true. Someone who played for four years and has been gone one for whatever reason (military, school, etc.) has certainly paid more than the person who's been in just long enough to see their first shny vet reward.
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The point I'm trying to make is that the way things were done was haphazard, shoddy and, frankly, unjust. Having a slightly more organised system that can pick more fairly would be far, far better.
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GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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Doesn't need much more than that.
Okay, before I begin, this is not a Wah, I lost my global thread. This is, in my opinion, something that should have been done before Global Server Access was enabled. Simply put, run a check of the joint global database and flag any account that has been inactive for over two years, appending their global name with a designation marking the name as inactive. Also grant a global rename token to any names that have been changed since GSA went active and anyone flagged as inactive.
This would free up old, unused globals and give players affected by the merge to possibly reclaim names that they have had for years and were renamed due to a clash with old, inactive accounts. If a player returns after two years, they still have the opportunity to change their name.
Although it could be argued that this is a not a vital service, it may go some way to fixing the mistakes made during the EU merger into the NA server cluster and might restore some sense of fairness to the whole process.
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