Has there been any word on the Staff Melee thing?
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Posted on: 2011-05-08 02:17 in Archetypes and Powers General Discussion
To answer the question in the subject: No.
I am thinking with the Incarnate stuff going on, and another round of Proliferation (likely) in i21... NEW powersets won't see the light of day for a bit. I would guess i23?
I'm willing to wait if they do it well. I've enjoyed their last few powersets quite a bit.
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+1. The only time we well know is pretty much in a issue overview that mentions it, or if you are in a beta for the issue it is coming out in. I would say how long to took DP to go from whiteboard to official, but then I'm sure my number would be off. It was multiple issues, so I wouldn't get too excited yet.
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Originally Posted by Thirty-Seven
To answer the question in the subject: No.
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As already mentioned, there has been no word, nor is a set likely "right now"
What was stated a few issues back is that staff animations, or any two-handed weapon animations for that matter, would require as much ground-work as demon summoning since no existing animation work could be re-used. C.Bruce had a pretty good line on just how much work it would be:
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Granted, C.Bruce is no longer with Paragon Studios, but his lack of current involvement does not change the physical work-load two-handed weapon sets would require. Now, as far as I'm aware, no developer has been "officially" introduced as a Lead Animator since C.Bruce's departure. I believe Nelson Tam holds that role, although I could be wrong. Nor am I aware how much say the animation department has in what they do. I don't know if David N. (Nobel Savage) has carte blanche to have the art and animation teams work on specific projects, or if resource management goes all the way back to War Witch and Second Measure. | I'm hard pressed to think of anything that would take more time to do...unless we did staffs as part of a new Mastermind primary along octopus henchmen who ride around on winged horses. |
Then there is the other unknown factor that is NCSoft. NCSoft has been known to step in and tell a studio there are somethings that the studio should not spend it's time or resources on. (cough, pvp in coh, cough) As demonstrated with Demon Summoning, Paragon Studio's method of operation is to bury the development costs of labor-intensive sets behind expansion packs.
Given that NCSoft is "profit minded" I really don't see NCSoft agreeing to the art-department making another labor-intensive power-set unless it was tied to a paid expansion.
Note: I'm not saying "booster pack"
My suspicion is that NCSoft and Paragon Studios will likely go for another expansion similar to Going Rogue. If that happens, I suspect two-handed weapons will likely be a prominent feature.
Now I want an Octopus Summoning primary for MMs. You could have a mini-Lusca!
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Originally Posted by DarkGob
Now I want an Octopus Summoning primary for MMs. You could have a mini-Lusca!
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Originally Posted by je_saist
Given that NCSoft is "profit minded" I really don't see NCSoft agreeing to the art-department making another labor-intensive power-set unless it was tied to a paid expansion.
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I really don't think NCSoft would tell Paragon Studios not to do something that would make their players happy, as long as there weren't any other projects it would be stepping on.
The art department gets paid the same regardless of what they are working on, and the game earns roughly the same amount of money regardless of what the art department is working on. Unless there is something more pressing they need to be doing, there is no reason why they couldn't work on something labor intensive.
If that labor intensive project helps retain subscribers, all the better.
I wouldn't expect a staff powerset anytime in the very near future, but we'll probably see it within the next 5 issues or so.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZEcSgGKfQg
Quarterstaff animations start at 1:50
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Awe shucks.. Well thanks for the input 
maybe someday! I soooo fell in love with the staff Melee concept when playing Aion and I'd love for that to reach this game (which is way better than aion!)
Bo Staff is one of my favourites weapons of all time, so Im dying to see it in CoH. But I dont think we ever see the day.
Same as one melee/mid range set with one katana and one pistol, like Spark Blade. There is nothing more badass than a guy with one katana and one long pistol in the other hand.
A set mixing combos with pistol to hit in the mobs face, katana cutting the mobs and then shooting them like the executioner shot animation, while holding the katana with the other hand...
Me like it!
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Considering there is canon precedent for this idea... I almost think it's more likely than a Staff set.... but I would personally prefer the Staff set... OR the "Ball and Chain" Set that was a part of that long ago poll.
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Originally Posted by Angelxman81
Bo Staff is one of my favourites weapons of all time, so Im dying to see it in CoH. But I dont think we ever see the day.
Same as one melee/mid range set with one katana and one pistol, like Spark Blade. There is nothing more badass than a guy with one katana and one long pistol in the other hand. A set mixing combos with pistol to hit in the mobs face, katana cutting the mobs and then shooting them like the executioner shot animation, while holding the katana with the other hand... Me like it! |
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I am no expert but I think this is more easily implemented since we have seen characters holding a shield (which includes a shield bash animation in brawl) and a weapon.
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Originally Posted by Angelxman81
Bo Staff is one of my favourites weapons of all time, so Im dying to see it in CoH. But I dont think we ever see the day.
Same as one melee/mid range set with one katana and one pistol, like Spark Blade. There is nothing more badass than a guy with one katana and one long pistol in the other hand. A set mixing combos with pistol to hit in the mobs face, katana cutting the mobs and then shooting them like the executioner shot animation, while holding the katana with the other hand... Me like it! |
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HelinCarnate:OMG it is so terrible. I have the option to take 3 more powers but no additional slots. Boo F'ing hoo.
At PAX East 2010 this powerset was mentioned as being on their internal whiteboard - potentially becoming an added powerset (source: http://www.newsarama.com/games/city-...ax-100327.html - there was a video too, I can't find it...)
Thanks for any input!
I'm just sort of returning (from a 3 issue break more or less - which is actually a lot of time) and I was wondering if there was any insight on this? :I When AION launched almost 2 years ago now I know Castle played it and I used to message him talking about how awesome the Chanter staff animations were and he always said he'd love to see a staff heroset.
P.S. as I mentioned being a returning hero/villain, I have to say the Incarnate content is way fun! I'm enjoying it. Crafted my first tier 4 today >