Kinetic Melee? dmg buff?
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Amy_Amp,
Posted on: 2011-04-26 06:59 in Archetypes and Powers General Discussion
The damage buff you see attached to the power is only active when that ToHit buff replacement power (Power Siphon) is active. Meaning, when you click Power Siphon, you get those damage buffs you're seeing every time you hit.
Also of note: It seems KM for stalkers was altered. Concentrated Strike, from hide, instantly recharges BU. Very tasty indeed.
Kinetic melee's attacks have the secondary effect of a -damage debuff. That's the -dam effect you are seeing on them. Every time you hit something with a KM attack, you make it do a little less damage per hit.
The plus-damage effect you are seeing on them is a "defuryance" type buff similar to what blasters get for attacking. That buff is only applied during your Power Siphon time, however. It does stack up.
So when power siphon (that 'BU replacement') is up, attacking will make your attacks hit harder. It's probably superior to actually having BU in terms of overall DPS. For scrappers when Concentrated Strike crits, the timer on it resets immediately, so it's possible to have 'streaks' of power siphon time, too. But since stalkers now can reset BU with a crit from concentrated, and can crit at will via placate and hide - and can just plain have a higher crit rate because of their inherent - I think a skilled KM stalker would be able to have BU up almost constantly.
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Thanks! the set is a lot more appealing now.
edit: whats a good secondary for a Kinetics/ stalker?
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Dark Armor. Stalkers excel at killing tough targets, but can occasionally get overwhelmed by too many small ones. Oppressive Gloom allows you to only worry about your tough targets, which die quickly enough. You also have stuns to stack with OG. Further, the -damage effects pair nicely with the resistance based armor set.
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Originally Posted by Dark_Inferno
edit: whats a good secondary for a Kinetics/ stalker?
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Ninjitsu is broadly considered the 'go-to' set for overall power, especially in an IO build.
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Ninjitsu. As Flux said, its arguably the best overall Stalker secondary. Very easily softcapped defenses, fast recharging heal and several utility powers.
Dark is also a decent secondary, but IMO defense based secondaries work much better for Stalkers. Not getting hit means you can re-hide faster as well as get AS off easier.
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cool. Kinetics/Ninjitsu it is.
btw does "Burst" crit?
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It should, yes. But only at a 50% rate, unlike the 100% rate that Single Target attacks get when used from Hide.
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Originally Posted by Dark_Inferno
cool. Kinetics/Ninjitsu it is.
btw does "Burst" crit? |
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Yes, it does. Though an assassin strike can be fun, I actually prefer the BU>burst from hide against crowds. looks cool, works cool. What's not to love?
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Originally Posted by Dark_Inferno
cool. Kinetics/Ninjitsu it is.
btw does "Burst" crit? |
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Nitpick. CS recharges BU when it crits. Since it crits from hide, it will recharge BU as well.|
Originally Posted by Leo_G
Also of note: It seems KM for stalkers was altered. Concentrated Strike, from hide, instantly recharges BU. Very tasty indeed.
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Originally Posted by Seldom
Yes, it does. Though an assassin strike can be fun, I actually prefer the BU>burst from hide against crowds. looks cool, works cool. What's not to love?
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Saying that, I actually used Burst to finish off a target, complete the mission, and leveled all in one.
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True, long animation. That said, the crit damage+build up makes it worth it to me.
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Originally Posted by Amy_Amp
...If you use Burst from Hide, things will be alerted to you before the animation fires off....
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Concentrated Strike does no bonus damage on a crit; the instant recharge of Build Up/Power Siphon is all that a CS crit does.|
Originally Posted by Amy_Amp
Nitpick. CS recharges BU when it crits. Since it crits from hide, it will recharge BU as well.
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Which means it's completely accurate to say that a CS from Hide instantly recharges BU.
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Last I checked, Burst was still bugged to crit 100% from hide. But it's been a few patches since I played my Stalker.
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Hey folks.
While the servers are down I decided to play with Mid's hero builder a bit. Cool thing (?) I see a lot of the powers have "Dam buff 31.25%" and "Dam Buff -11.25%". I am assuming that the first larger number is the bonus to self dealing damage and the second smaller number is a debuff on the enemy. Is this true? the 31.25% sounds pretty powerful.
Also, I see the set is missing build-up for ATs other than Stalker. Is the replacement power (a to-hit buff) worthwhile?
ty!